Lighthouse Pup 5.00 G 185M

[8-bit]

When I click on the taskbar volume icon, I normally expect a volume slider.
But I get a sgmixer window open instead.
Normally, this would be ok.
But....
When I click the Exit button in that window, the taskbar volume icon disappears and I have to restart X to restore it.
So how about a true volume slider for the icon and sgmixer as a menu item?

[tazoc]

Hi 8-bit,
Yes, sGmixer is missing from the menus--I will fix that for the next release. Meantime, Zmixer is in the Multimedia Menu. What I do is minimize the mixer after using it.

I don't know how to put a proper volume slider in the IceWM tray. I think all the other WMs in Lighthouse do have that feature, although Xfce's may require Mariner.
-TazOC

[CLAM01]

Taz0c and 8-bit,
I like the volume control in Icewm as is. I run zero-volume most of the time, then, when I need, click it up with the tray icon, adjust, then click down, clicking on the icon again. Since the window is a good puppy it stays and reappears next time where it was told to stay. Mine right over the tray icon with the buttons down behind the tray, out of oops way. If you only adjust volume you can put the window down with only that slider showing and have only the roll-over disappear feature missing.

[Stormson5150]

I commented out the standard mixer in /root/.icewm/startup and tried replacing it with absvolume, but it doesnt work at startup... Also tried linking it to the startup folder, that didnt work either... No problem, I just made a desktop icon and click on it at startup... Seems to work fine after that.

[tazoc]

Streamtuner2 SFS Internet radio browser for Lucid Puppy, Slackpup or Lighthouse Pup 5

[2010.07.22 Updated VLC for Lupu and Slackpup]
Vlc-1.0.6-i486b.sfs 38M md5.txt A media player, encoder and streamer for Lucid Puppy, Slackpup or LHP 5

Pidgin-2.6.5b.sfs 5.1M md5.txt An easy to use, free chat client for LHP 5
-TazOC

[smokey01]

tazoc Streamtuner2 did not work for me.

I'm using a frugal Lucid Puppy 5.0. I mounted the sfs file by clicking on it. Navigated to /usr/bin/streamtuner2 [clicked]. It said it was borderless and starting streamtuner2 but it did not. When I ran it from a terminal it could not find a python command.

# ./streamtuner2
./streamtuner2: line 12: python2.6: command not found

Does it also provide a menu entry when mounted as I couldn't find a menu entry in multimedia or internet.

Thanks

[tazoc]

... also get this error with Voyager's screen saver each time a new saver is selected. Came up for first run of Voyager. Directory exists and file has universal read/write permissions. Operator error or ? B.

Here's a bugfix for the Xscreensaver "Error: Couldn't write /home/spot/.xscreensaver". It repairs the ownership of /home/spot recursively.

Please install this pet after installing LHP_5.00-C_update1.pet
-TazOC

[tazoc]

tazoc Streamtuner2 did not work for me.

I'm using a frugal Lucid Puppy 5.0. I mounted the sfs file by clicking on it. Navigated to /usr/bin/streamtuner2 [clicked]. It said it was borderless and starting streamtuner2 but it did not. When I ran it from a terminal it could not find a python command.

# ./streamtuner2
./streamtuner2: line 12: python2.6: command not found

Does it also provide a menu entry when mounted as I couldn't find a menu entry in multimedia or internet.

Thanks

Hi smokey01,
It installs the same way as other Puppy SFS add-ons do. (This is different from installing a PET.) The procedure is described here. Once this is done there should be a Streamtuner2 entry in the Multimedia Menu. If not, open a terminal, type fixmenus and restart JWM.
-TazOC

[8-bit]

I load Abiword, insert some scanned images of pages with a page break after each page and if I select save as PDF, the processor maxes out and the save fails.
But if I save the file as an Abiword file, exit, and run PuppyPDF to convert the file to PDF, it works.
Since PuppyPDF uses Abiword for the conversion, is there a bug in Abiword as to directly saving to PDF within Abiword?

[tazoc]

Thank you for the workaround 8-bit. Yeah, Abiword is buggy, I tried different versions and it didn't help. Considering it's <8M with plug-ins I think its good enough for now. If OpenOffice (>175M with JRE) was small enough for the base ISO, I'd use it to replace Abiword in a heartbeat!
-TazOC

[8-bit]

I made a 512 meg personal spupsave file by using the prompts on my first install.
I added a few apps and 4 SFS files using Puppy Boot Manager.
Then Seamonkey updated to 2.06
The Personal Storage space tray applet showed 503 megs with 175 megs free.
So I used the option from the menu to increase personal storage space (spupsave).
I selected 512 megs as an increase and rebooted to LHP.
The tray applet still showed 503megs with 175 free.
I then did another size increase of 1024 megs and rebooted to LHP.
The Personal storage size and free space still did not change from the initial 503 megs with 175 megs free.
So is this a definite bug with the tray applet.
Edit:
Also, when I right click on the spupsave.2fs file, the size is shown as 2048 mbytes. Also, Pwidgets also shows it as a 504meg pupsave.

Also, running a filesystem check the unmounted pupsave from another version of Puppy showed block errors and other errors.
So isn't the Personal Storage space tray applet supposed to pick up the new pupsave size and display it properly?

[tazoc]

...So I used the option from the menu to increase personal storage space (spupsave).
I selected 512 megs as an increase and rebooted to LHP.
The tray applet still showed 503megs with 175 free.
I then did another size increase of 1024 megs and rebooted to LHP.
The Personal storage size and free space still did not change from the initial 503 megs with 175 megs free.
So is this a definite bug with the tray applet.

Also, running a filesystem check the unmounted pupsave from another version of Puppy showed block errors and other errors.
So isn't the Personal Storage space tray applet supposed to pick up the new pupsave size and display it properly?

The large discrepancy between the freespace indicator and the actual size of the pupsave can occur when the pupsave has file system errors. You were on the right track with the file system check from another Puppy.

Let's assume your pupsave is named spupsave.3fs and is located on /dev/sda2 at /mnt/home/lhp/spupsave.3fs. Repeat the pupsave repair with the pupsave and its host partition, both unmounted, by booting from the Lighthouse 5 LiveCD with puppy pfix=ram,fsck at the boot menu. unmount the host partition sda2 with Pmount and check its file system in a terminal: e2fsck -vy /dev/sda2 Repeat until it runs clean. (If the pupsave is on a FAT or NTFS part, run chkdisk and defrag in Windows and reboot LHP with pfix=ram)

Next mount the host part and cd /mnt/sda2/lhp to change to the directory of your pupsave, type e2fsck -vy spupsave.3fs and repeat until the check runs clean. Then type resize2fs -pf spupsave.3fs (I learned that trick by studying the commands issued by GParted when it executes a Repair on a Linux ext3 partition.) Finally click on the pupsave to mount in ROX, navigate up to the icon in /mnt of the mounted pupsave and right-click | properties to verify the size and freespace. Unmount the pupsave by clicking again on spupsave.3fs and reboot.

My current setup includes pfix=fsck on the kernel line in GRUB, which in Lighthouse should run a file system check and resize2fs -pf on both the host part and the pupsave prior to mounting each. My pupsave is spupsave.3fs, in ROX size is 384M, freespace indicator is total 372M, free 169M. The minor discrepancy is due to the overhead and journal of the ext3 file system.
-TazOC

[8-bit]

I have a 40 gig partition on sdb3 formatted to an ext2 file system.
All other versions of Puppy, frugal installs in subdirectories, work fine and report the correct pupsave file size as well as free space on them.
But even after booting from a live CD of Puppy 431 scsi and doing
e2fsck -vy /dev/sdb3 and also then mounting sdb3, navigating to the light house pup directory and doing e2fsck -vy spupsave-500.2fs, I still got the Puppy Personal space tray applet showing 504 megs with 175 megs free.
I uninstalled the googleearth pet as a test and the free space increased.
But I am still at a loss as to the discrepency.
If I select properties of my spupsave-500.2fs file, the file size is shown as 2048 megs.
Also, if I boot back and forth between Puppy versions to check the spupsave-500.2fs file with e2fsck, I get block error reports, and a bunch of other errors that it corrects.
I run e2fsck twice each time and the second time, it comes up clean.
At this point, I am ready to just ditch the pupsave file and start over fresh with a BIG pupsave file.
BTW, Light House Pup with the Mariner SFS loaded is the only Puppy on sdb3 that has given me this problem.
Puppy 500 always has the pupsave file check out clean when checked with another version of Puppy running.

[tazoc]

Sorry about the difficulties. Please carefully follow all of the steps in my last post, especially booting from the Lighthouse 5 LiveCD with puppy pfix=ram,fsck at the boot menu, e2fsck -vfy spupsave-500.2fs (try -vfy this time) then resize2fs -pf spupsave-500.2fs

I just resized my 384M spupsave.3fs up 128M with Resize Personal Storage file, rebooted and now freespace indicates 496M total, Freespace 298M. In ROX the pupsave is now 512M. I have 21 SFS files enabled in BootManager, including the Mariner SFS.
-TazOC

[8-bit]

I tried your suggestions as to recovering from the Personal Storage space tray applet displaying correctly and nothing changed until I did a resize from command line on my unmounted pupsave file.
I gave it a command to resize to the same size my pupsave file already was.
After that, and a reboot, the correct size was shown.
Thank you for the heads up though.

[efiguy]

Hi Tazoc,
- Have a mostly operating (cd boot+sda1) LHP-500c+Mariner. With so much "stuff" in Pprocess, how did you get it SO FAST!!!! -It is "Right There" at the end of a click!!!

-Plus really like the multiple Shell switching, but don't know enough yet to understand which might be better for building a TV viewing system - based on a 640x480 PC-video to NTSC Scan Converter. -Any Suggestions?

- About 9 or so months ago was experimenting with a Puppy (maybe LH-D) that would resize on the fly, which worked OK - except menus became so large at 640x480 that the position of a needed menu selection couldn't be reached as it was off screen. -I notice you have a neat global font size selection, is there any easy way of doing the format resize? It would be OK to stay in 640x480 mode if other programs and menus resized. With the current auto-start features - have not explored changing current screen size of 1024x768, more concerned now with TV streaming.

-By the way, how does one find addresses for the TV stream tuner?
-How can Gxine use the new encryption format that networks are moving towards?? (RTMP)

-Also, the future use would use a dedicated TV streaming machine (Dell Optiplex) with some limitations on clock and ram, is there a chance for paring packages to a minimum for lower ram quantity. Is that something like uninstalling menu items? -Can a newbie who does little inside Puppy accomplish that task?? -What kind of soft/hardware resources are required to remove packages?

-Appreciate your attention to detail, Website- [url]http://www.lhpup.org/download500.htm#SFS[/url] - do hope there might be some screen solutions, Appoligize for all the Questions,

Jay

Experimental PC
Have a frugal install of 490sfs (had to use the Mariner update to get a Gxine library to start the engine)
Gateway W340UA - with LHP 5.00c (co-existing with XP)
Nvidia GE Force 6100 Vesa Force Could use a driver- have 195, 173, and 96 on HD
WIFI RTL 8185 Driver (WIN) 5.1114.917.2009 not working, Not critical
ethernet Nvidia (WIN) 1.00.04.05027 Operating swell
Added Firefox -3.5.6.tar pet DEC 01-17-2009
(Did an about:config and toggled the 2 css "leaks" entrys to false - what were they thinking!?)

[tazoc]

Hi Tazoc,
- Have a mostly operating (cd boot+sda1) LHP-500c+Mariner. With so much "stuff" in Pprocess, how did you get it SO FAST!!!! -It is "Right There" at the end of a click!!!

Because it's based on Puppy/Quirky/Slackpup/Woof.

-Plus really like the multiple Shell switching, but don't know enough yet to understand which might be better for building a TV viewing system - based on a 640x480 PC-video to NTSC Scan Converter. -Any Suggestions?

That depends on your preference--try them and go with what works best for you.

I notice you have a neat global font size selection, is there any easy way of doing the format resize? It would be OK to stay in 640x480 mode if other programs and menus resized. With the current auto-start features - have not explored changing current screen size of 1024x768, more concerned now with TV streaming.

If you are asking for a resolution changer, see Menu | Settings | Wizards | Xorg Wizard | Resolution Changer, or just type xrandrshell in a terminal. Results may vary, and you may prefer to directly edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to specify a particular resolution. Unfortunately some apps are difficult to fit in 640x480, though 800x600 usually works. If an app's window is cut off, hold down the Alt key and drag the window as required. If the menus are cut off I would try JWM or another WM. KDE4's Alternative Plasma Netbook interface might work well on small resolutions, but still needs recent hardware.

-By the way, how does one find addresses for the TV stream tuner?

I'm not familiar with a TV stream tuner, can you be more specific?

-How can Gxine use the new encryption format that networks are moving towards?? (RTMP)

I have no idea about Gxine. I understand VLC has quite a few codecs and formats supported.

-Also, the future use would use a dedicated TV streaming machine (Dell Optiplex) with some limitations on clock and ram, is there a chance for paring packages to a minimum for lower ram quantity. Is that something like uninstalling menu items? -Can a newbie who does little inside Puppy accomplish that task?? -What kind of soft/hardware resources are required to remove packages?

I use Edit-SFS in the Utility menu to manually add/remove files from the main file. You might consider starting with the latest Slackpup as it is easier to build up a puplet than to slim-down an existing one.

Nvidia GE Force 6100 Vesa Force Could use a driver- have 195, 173, and 96 on HD

I would try the NVIDIA 195. If it doesn't work please type report-video at the command line before switching back to vesa or nv and attach /tmp/root/report-video-full.gz
Thanks,
TazOC

[efiguy]

Thank you Tazoc,

The resolution changer operated Perfectly, I'm sure that by using global font size that a menu compromise will be found, but thanks for the Tip for using the ALT key.
Also Thanks for the links and advice. - Probably use LH as is, works so well. -But someday need to learn how to do some of the "behind the scenes" work just to appreciate and understand Puppy construction even more.

Again thank You, a swell product
Jay

[8-bit]

I tried out the rc.shutdown replacement script you sent me.
Glory be. It works fine with my spupsave.2fs reporting clean when doing an e2fsck.

The file gets placed in /etc/rc.d directory and replaces the original one.
I am attaching it for others that may want to try it.

[tazoc]

@All,
I've built an SFS of OOOP - OxygenOffice Professional 3.2.1. It is very large at 425M and JRE (Java Runtime Environment) is not included. (I anticipate more frequent updates to JRE and JRE is already included in Mariner.) I haven't used the standard OpenOffice 3.2 enough to decide whether OxygenOfficePro is much better or just much bigger...

I'm disappointed that the online update feature responds with "Checking for an update failed" and the OOoWikipedia macro is broken (it was written for OOo 2.) I think the best part about OxygenOffice is the extra fonts, templates--and the LanguageTool extension I pre-installed so that you don't have to manually download and add with the extension manager. But I could probably do the same for LT with the standard OpenOffice SFS.

The OOOP site is http://sourceforge.net/projects/ooop and a rather outdated home at http://www.oxygenofficepro.com

If there is any interest in OOOP I will upload this so you can try it. If not I will try adding LanguageTool and a few Lighthouse tweaks to a future OpenOffice release.
-TazOC