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ttuuxxx · Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 11:40 Post subject:

hi lobster was that the real Barry K in the chat???
and if so are we green for puppy 6 to be built from scratch?
ttuuxxx

raffy · Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 4636 Location: Manila

Thanks all for your presence and patience.

It's been a long time since the last meeting in IRC. Because the puppylinux IRC is loosely moderated, I guess most people would feel more comfortable conducting the discussion here in the forum.

But it was truly fun to be talking directly to the devs, notably BarryK, the creator of Puppy Linux.

The meeting favored the ideas of 5.x keeping binary compatibility with chosen distros, and of 6.x being compiled from source. Ttuuxxx was nominated to coordinate Puppy6. Puppy6 could be an LTS release, and the repositories have to be organized in some way.

If you attended the IRC meeting and feel ignored, it could be either (1) your question had been answered in the past, or (2) your question was not contributing to the topic being discussed. Sorry.

If your project was not mentioned or your name was not brought up, don't lose heart - the meeting was more an effort to define how to proceed with development of the official Puppy instead of naming who's who. More devs/volunteers are needed for both Puppy5 and Puppy6. Smile

dejan555 · Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 2407 Location: Montenegro

stu90 · Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 13:36 Post subject: Re: Thanks

jemimah · Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 4309 Location: Tampa, FL

Honestly, I didn't get the impression that anything was truly discussed or decided in that meeting.

However, I talked to Ttuuxxx afterward, and I am willing to lend assistance to whatever Ttuuxxx wants to do. I think he has good taste, and good ideas, and probably has enough dedication to accomplish what he sets his mind to.

The plan of building entirely from scratch is extremely ambitious - the problem will be getting a base system working. I doubt we can figure it out with out a lot of help from Barry, and the other developers who understand Linux internals very well.

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But yes, building from scratch would mean losing binary compatibility. This doesn't imply the demise of woof or wooflets.

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From what I understand, calling this project the official 6.x series requires approval by the real BarryK.

Lobster · Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 14:51 Post subject:

tlchost · Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 16:03 Post subject: Re: Thanks

tlchost · Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 16:08 Post subject:

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nancy reagan · Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 435

Why not call a meeting by pm next time, instead through the forum ?

So there will be no trolls and Barry K will be Barry K, if he says so

By pm you can ask to conform the invitation and ask for the name he/she will use on the chat and let everyone know whoiswho beforehand.

So then BK will be BK or not present. and Nancy Reagan Margaret Thatcher or the like.

8-bit · Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 3013 Location: Oregon

A meeting should be held on a private channel with those who attend given access.
I read the minutes of the meeting as supplied by Tuxxx and I do not see how anything productive could come from one with so may trolls and also trying to figure out who is who.
I am a dumb shit when it comes to using CHAT to set up an IRC account and I never could connect.
But from reading the minutes, it is just as well that I could not connect.
I would say to have another meeting of the developers on a private channel with uname/password.
Surely there is somewhere one could do this.

And don't call me Surely. Laughing

raffy · Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 4636 Location: Manila

When I responded here, I said

Enrique Corbellini · Joined: 20 May 2009 Posts: 86

There has been a meeting! sounds so good, having reunions is a symptom of good health in a community. Very Happy

There is something important we should consider some day, I believe. It is that, Puppy is not a little system, it is small in weight because we wanted it to be small, but is far big in efficience and practicing, it's the end of every headache using PCs, I always repeat that.
Despite that, it never appears hardware for Puppy as hardware for Windows appears. I mean, if there are good programmers creating something like Puppy, why is it that impossible to find good machine factory's builders to create the appropriate hardware for people, including the appropriate hardware for Puppy?
I swear the day I have some time to speak about this with some people, I'll certainly dedicate part of my time to find this builders that will make us stop running before Gates feet as if he was some sort of god. It's only a person, we shouldn't forget that.

tlchost

shariebeth · Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 271 Location: Florida

All of my questions have been answered.

Sad

Mind boggling. Really.

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