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Roy

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PostPosted: Mon 24 May 2010, 12:06    Post_subject:  

Thank you, Joe.

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PostPosted: Mon 24 May 2010, 22:35    Post_subject:  

Hey Roy

I did get skype to load using slackware 13 packages

its much bigger than the static version because qt is much larger
on slackware 13


so it can be done Very Happy

UPDATED to show the packages used
note qt is 40MB compressed

skype-2.0.0.72
--> dbus-glib-0.80
--> glib2-2.18.4
--> qt-r1008952

http://www.puppy2.org/slaxer/dbus-glib-0.80-i486-3_SLXR.txz
http://www.puppy2.org/slaxer/glib2-2.18.4-i486-3_SLXR.txz
http://www.puppy2.org/slaxer/qt-r1008952-i486-3_SLXR.txz
http://www.puppy2.org/slaxer/skype-2.0.0.72-i486-i486-3_SLXR.txz


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PostPosted: Tue 25 May 2010, 00:06    Post_subject:  

big_bass I tested the iso but failed to get out on the internet because I don't know what driver to load.

I have no need to know that when I use the Simple Network S. in Quirky.

It just works.

Can I borrow that SNS in some way so I can test your distro? or how do I find out what LAN I have?

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PostPosted: Tue 25 May 2010, 00:40    Post_subject:  

to see what you have for network

you could

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grep "eth0:" /tmp/bootkernel.log


and post the result at least I could see what you are using
Joe

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PostPosted: Tue 25 May 2010, 01:24    Post_subject:  

Seems me have nVidia MCP61 ethernet.

I log out and reboot and test if that one us included among the options.

Did you answer why you don't provide a sns among the network.
Or if I can easily import sns from an existing version or as a Pet?
could not find any kind of nvidia unless the list use a name for it me not recognize.

the more did not help either. It loaded the first always and did not test next and next.

Why not use sns instead for this cumbersome failure? Are you sure sns is not available for your distro.

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PostPosted: Tue 25 May 2010, 10:02    Post_subject:  

Quote:
Did you answer why you don't provide a sns among the network.


Quote:
Why not use sns instead for this cumbersome failure?


Dougal did an outstanding job on the network setup
and it has been tested on thousands of machines with success
also tempestuous added in many drivers with support of how to configure them



if a few slip through and don't get auto detected it would be better to add the fix into the provided support than rip it out and replace it with something else
remember this is linux support gets added in a little at a time based on detailed informative user feedback and companies that maintain support for drivers for linux

with only the name of the diver you provide using the
Code:
grep "eth0:" /tmp/bootkernel.log


I posted an image of a driver that should work
but then it may not and more information would be needed

Quote:
Can I borrow that SNS in some way so I can test your distro?

I have no idea you would have to ask the developer of the program if it was designed to work on all puppy versions or not if it could be added in you could test it



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PostPosted: Tue 25 May 2010, 11:08    Post_subject:  

Quote:
forcedeth: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.64.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCH] enabled at IRQ 20
forcedeth 0000:00:07.0: PCI INT A -> Link[APCH] -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> IRQ 20
forcedeth 0000:00:07.0: setting latency timer to 64


That is what Quirky says in the bootkernel.log

But how can a newbie know that that is the driver to use. Now that I know I can look for it in Slaxer I test it and tell the result within 10 minutes

Edit

Thanks for not giving up on me and for you generous patience with my whining and maybe unfair criticism but I am spoiled coming from Quirky that just works.

Your suggested driver worked first try but I can assure you that that one are so way down in the line of drivers that I would have no way of knowing that one was supposed to be used.

I simply don't have that knowledge to know that that one was supposed to be chosen and the auto loading never started the walking down. it only used the first choice each time.

the reason me cared about Slaxer was that I wanted to have one puppy based on each big distro. Slackware, Debian, Ubuntu Suse and so on.

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PostPosted: Tue 25 May 2010, 23:50    Post_subject:  

nooby
Quote:
But how can a newbie know that that is the driver to use


well, that should have gotten detected automatically but it did´nt

knowing what hardware you have makes a world of difference when it comes to
setting up your computer quickly and correctly
even if you"are not sure how to configure ,compile or just select the correct driver
with just a bootkernel log that would be a great help to the tech trying to help you get up and running


Joe
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I wrote an info get to get all the important hardware info for debugging
*pakt added in some support also
you unzip it than click on info_get_v03

all the needed info gets made the placed inside
/root/info_tarball.tar.gz you upload this file or PM it to the tech helping you to make everything easy for everyone
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PostPosted: Thu 27 May 2010, 10:45    Post_subject:  

http://www.puppy2.org/slaxer/prozilla-2.0.4-i486-3_SLXR.txz

ProZilla is a download accelerator for Linux

It is a multi-threaded download accelerator for Linux which supports both HTTP and FTP protocols and increases download speeds with up to 200-300%.

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Here are some key features of "ProZilla":

· Supports FTP & HTTP including redirection (ProZilla & ProzGUI).
· Resume Supported (ProZilla & ProzGUI).
· Complete acceleration: The file will be downloaded as fast as possible as your bandwidth allows if not otherwise specified (ProZilla & ProzGUI).
· Unlike certain other download accelerators available for Linux, this really works.
· The number of connections that prozilla uses can be specified (ProZilla & ProzGUI).
· FTPsearch support now permits fetching Mirror locations and pinging them and selecting the fastest server is automatically done (ProZilla & ProzGUI).
· Downloading the same file in parts from several servers at once to increase speed (ProzGUI).



instead of wget -c http://www.whatever
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proz http://www.whatever



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PostPosted: Thu 27 May 2010, 18:16    Post_subject: ath5k
Sub_title: ath5k
 

Hi all:
Does anybody have any tips on getting an ath5k device to work? I see that madwifi is in the allfirmware directory, but I think it would also need ath_pci and maybe more I can't remember.

I think the switch to ath5k/mac80211 happened with the 2.6.28 series kernel, but before that, it used madwifi/ath_pci and the interface name was ath0.
Thanks

updated
I found a package here that contains the needed modules, and installed it, but something else is still needed because if I modprobe, it says wrong module format, but is for 2.6.27.7 so should match.
http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/madwifi/pkg/12.2/
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PostPosted: Fri 28 May 2010, 13:28    Post_subject:  

upnorth


*the ath9k was compiled as a module included in slaxer

updated try this
Code:
wget -c http://www.puppy2.org/slaxer/madwifi-r3878-20081204_2.6.27.7-i486-3_SLXR.txz



may need this
Code:
/sbin/modprobe ath_pci

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PostPosted: Sat 29 May 2010, 13:46    Post_subject:  

man this is great news !!

I was testing my Xdialog package tools on slackware 13 using oxygen

and it works perfectly as is Cool Cool
*this is built in to slaxer cooking

so all you need is Xdialog to test it there
http://puppy2.org/slaxer/Xdialog-2.3.1-i486-7slxr.tgz

keeping things compatible with the latest
Hey give it a try Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 29 May 2010, 15:15    Post_subject: Thanks!
Sub_title: re: http://www.puppy2.org/slaxer/madwifi-r3878-20081204_2.6.27.7-i486-3_SLXR.txz
 

http://www.puppy2.org/slaxer/madwifi-r3878-20081204_2.6.27.7-i486-3_SLXR.txz

Thanks! Very Happy
I just downloaded the above and clicked, then modprobe ath_pci and tested with manually connected wpa2 connection. Am posting from the cooker now. Thanks again! Cool
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PostPosted: Sat 29 May 2010, 16:19    Post_subject:  

Quote:

Thanks! Very Happy
I just downloaded the above and clicked, then modprobe ath_pci and tested with manually connected wpa2 connection. Am posting from the cooker now. Thanks again!


Hey upnorth


Execellent ! I was waiting for your reply so I could add it to the index
http://www.puppy2.org/slaxer/madwifi-r3878-20081204_2.6.27.7-i486-3_SLXR.txz


thanks for testing
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Jun 2010, 11:30    Post_subject:  

updated the first page in the thread with wifi drivers and nvidia drivers

if I missed one of the drivers you need let me know nows a good time for me to add in more support I finally got the package management
completed which took alot of time setting up and coding
so that slaxer has all the backend support and a new GUI to handle
slackware packages

its a big difference to convert a slackware package into a pet package and install with petget

I dont do that I handle slackware package directly using official tools as the backend all was made easily so you just click on the package and it installs no command line knowledge needed

one thing official slackware doesnt have is dependency checking
I coded that in so now you have it Very Happy


if you have a hard drive install using pkgtools you can uninstal
packages built in (this is the cooking version so its cooking now adding many packages when I am finished you could uninstall any built in package and build it however you wanted easily Cool
the ultimate base system and daily use **tinker toy for real geeks**

*and if you have a special pet package to install no problem I didnt
break pet package compatibility with the 412 puppy format


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