Lucid Puppy 5.1- A Full-Featured Compact Distro

[Lobster]

wallpaper-0.5.4.1.pet

yep that worked many thanks

[don570]

TO see the latest improvements in audacity go to
http://code.google.com/p/audacity/source/list
To build the latest audacity package here is the method I now use:
I go to https://launchpad.net/~audacity-team/+a ... /+packages
to get latest debian package

audacity_1.3.12+svn201007100901+r6235-0lucid1_i386.deb

put in a folder with
libjack0_0.118+svn3796-1ubuntu2_i386.deb
libflac++6_1.2.1-2build2_i386.deb
libsoundtouch1c2_1.3.1-2_i386.deb
libvamp-hostsdk3_2.1-1_i386.deb
libtwolame0_0.3.12-1_i386.deb
libwxgtk2.8-0_2.8.10.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
libwxbase2.8-0_2.8.10.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
which I got from
http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/audacity
The folder can be named anything.
I used debs2pkg, available from
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 355#431355
The terminal command

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debs2pkg -p audacity-july10-1.3.13

creates a folder named audacity-july10-1.3.13
I make a couple of changes to desktop file,like the icon path.
Then the command

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dir2pet audacity-july10-1.3.13

makes the package audacity-july10-1.3.13.pet
I made it available at http://www.esnips.com/web/lupu
I now have a method to make an audacity package in only a couple of minutes!
I see that debs2pkg has been renamed alien2puppy
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 70&t=57548
I will try it out!
EDIT: Tried and highly recommend!!

[don570]

Here are my notes for making a package for Abiword to help newbies:
I downloaded the debian packages from
https://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/programs-ppa
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/i386 ... 2-2ubuntu1

I merged the following packages:
abiword_2.8.6-0u1~ppa1_i386.deb
abiword-common_2.8.6-0u1~ppa1_all.deb
abiword-plugin-grammar_2.8.6-0u1~ppa1_i386.deb
abiword-plugin-mathview_2.8.6-0u1~ppa1_i386.deb
libabiword-2.8_2.8.6-0u1~ppa1_i386.deb
libaiksaurus-1.2-0c2a_1.2.1+dev-0.12-6build1_i386.deb
libaiksaurus-1.2-data_1.2.1+dev-0.12-6build1_all.deb
libwps-0.1-1_0.1.2-1_i386.deb

I make a couple of changes to abiword.desktop file
to give the correct category and the icon path,
then I make the folder into a pet package with the command:
dir2pet abiword-2.8.6-lupu
I have made it available at http://www.esnips.com/web/lupu

When a check of dependencies is done, there is a long list of
missing dependencies but it works well from my
short testing period on Lucid Puppy 117 and 204
It won't work on Puppy4.3.1
release notes http://www.abisource.com/changelogs/2.8.6.phtml
Note: the last 3 debian packages (libaiksaurus,libaiksaurus data, and libwps)
aren't necessary but I included them anyway for better compatibility.

[James C]

Another live test of Luci-210 with a different Nvidia card....an older GeForce 4 mx4000.

Chose "probe","1024x768x24" and got the nouveau driver.Display offset to the right about a quarter inch, and was unsuccessful with any driver upgrades.
Rebooted and now using the nv driver.


VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 210

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: NV18 Board - p119s0nz Chip Rev A4

Driver used by Xorg:
nv

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#


-OpenGL-
Vendor : Unknown
Renderer : Unknown
Version : Unknown
Direct Rendering : No

[01micko]

James

Can you try one of CatDude's pets that suits the card? That test-vid script will get you to the nVidia website.

Maybe start pfix=ram and CHOOSE nv... take nouveau out of play before it grabs hold... it's hard to shake!!

Cheers

Mick

[James C]

James

Can you try one of CatDude's pets that suits the card? That test-vid script will get you to the nVidia website.

Maybe start pfix=ram and CHOOSE nv... take nouveau out of play before it grabs hold... it's hard to shake!!

Cheers

Mick

Will do in a few.

Just did a reboot,started with nv and tried the Nvidia driver in Quickpet........X would not even start.
Rebooted again,started with nv and now downloading the big 46 mb pet.
Nope, won't even start X either.I love testing..........
Posting from another machine by the way.....rebooting and I'll try your idea next.

EDIT:

Rebooted again, live and pfix=ram....................started with nv and downloaded CatDude's 96.43.16 Nvidia pet.....exited to a prompt, etc., etc..................X wouldn't start.According to the documentation the driver should work with the mx 4000 but.............

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 155#422155

[scsijon]

first problems guys - 210frugal install
1- web browser video is lousey (I have a tried both firefox and the default) letters running/stretching down the screen (both with and without xorg_high)
209 was great, 210 is slowwwwww. I have a intel corp 82915G/GV/910GL IGC (rev04)

2- 60hz problem with xorgwizard still there from my earlier report

3 PPM > configure> tick a box> update - it downloads ALL sets, not just the one you want, pc goes dead slow and can't kill it.


Request for ppm
Can we have a setting in ppm so it doesn't delete the .pet after install, i'd like to be able to copy it to use elsewhere after install to update others without redownloading each time.

have fun
scsijon
ps for playdayz -eudora tests ok on my 210.

[shinobar]

luci-210 on my PC with Nvidia GeForce 8800GT.
Started X with nouvaux driver probed.
Installed nvidia-glx-256.36 driver via quickpet.
Exit to prompt and run xorgwizard, it uses fbdev because the nvidia driver failed. Seems loading nvidia.ko failed.

Next time, i restarted luci-210 again with RAM only mode.
This time i avoided to probe graphic driver, and chose Vesa instead.
Installed nvidia-glx-256.36, and ran xorgwizard.
This time, successfully X starts with nvidia driver.

Think the nouvaux driver causes something trouble with the system, and fails to load nvidia.ko.

[01micko]

Hi shinobar

Yeah, nouveau was supposed to be left out but it in some discussion with playdayz looks like it crept back in somehow.

As you say, a user must choose vesa or nv in the initial xorgwizard to have any hope of using the nvidia pet.

We have all experienced (with nvidia) similar to what you describe.

Cheers

[rhadon]

Hi,

I'm trying to get VirtualBox 3.2.6 (PUEL-Version) working

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# ./VirtualBox-3.2.6-63112-Linux_x86.run 
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing VirtualBox for Linux installation..........
VirtualBox Version 3.2.6 r63112 (2010-06-25T14:18:40Z) installer
Please install the build and header files for your current Linux kernel.
The current kernel version is 2.6.33.2
Problems were found which would prevent VirtualBox from installing.
Please correct these problems and try again.
# 

So where can I find these build and header files for k2.6.33.2 please?

As far as I know, vboxdrv doesn't match the right kernel (Ubuntu 10.4 has k2.6.32.xx and luci k2.6.33.2). That's a complete new area for me but with the abandon of not knowing I will try

~ Rolf

[scruffy]

Thanks to shinobar I've solved my Nvidia graphics problem. I didn't realize that I should start my fresh install with vesa.

NVIDIA-96.43.16_lupu500-k2.6.33.2.pet installed fine and graphics are much faster. Is it worth including this in quickpet
for older Nvidia cards?


# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 210

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: NV18 Board - p119s0nz Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
3457 frames in 5.0 seconds
4247 frames in 5.0 seconds
4260 frames in 5.0 seconds
4062 frames in 5.0 seconds

[JustGreg]

I have found, like others, that starting from Xorg configuration using VESA is the easiest way to install the official Nvidia pet.. I have been working on a pet for Slack Pup, which has both the nv and nouveau drivers. Trying to change to nvidia driver seems to fail. However, one can always change to the nvidia driver using the pet if the initial configuration is VESA. I hope this helps.

[playdayz]

I've been using Opera 10.11 on (2) 5.01 installs and all these test installs....seems to work fine. 10.60 on the other hand......... Laughing
There are complaints everywhere about 10.60 being buggy and not quite ready for prime time, but it's still fast. Smile

Thanks James C. I was going to ask your opinion of whether we should use 10.60 as our Opera. I have got it now. I agree btw. Thanks.

[playdayz]

OK I un installed songbird .. and deleted a directory called .songbird2 ( to see if that helped)

I then re installed via quickpet . The install was successful..but still no menu entry..when I try to start it from a console i get this now !!

g0pey, How large is your pupsave file? That is the number in the lower right corner. If it is too small, less than 100 probably, then programs will not install correctly. What version of puppy, luci-209? I just tested and it installed and there was a menu entry under multimedia. If you have enough pupsave memory, then try to exit to a prompt and enter 'fixmenus' and then enter 'xwin' to return to jwm. Have you changed anything from default? Background shouldn't matter? Sorry we don't have a quick fix.

I increased my save file size by +512 M .. so it went from 380M free to over 900 M..

Good. I see you got it yourself. The numbers seem large to me also, but Songbird is a large program and it needs at least double--and more--to install the pet. The downside of installing some of the programs we are using is this. I routinely use 1024MB of pupsave memory. Those who want to use less certainly can--Puppy has no frills programs to do most things.

[gjuhasz]

I have found, like others, that starting from Xorg configuration using VESA is the easiest way to install the official Nvidia pet.. I have been working on a pet for Slack Pup, which has both the nv and nouveau drivers. Trying to change to nvidia driver seems to fail. However, one can always change to the nvidia driver using the pet if the initial configuration is VESA. I hope this helps.

The best way to survive would be removing BOTH nv and nouveau drivers from the sfs. If they are in separate PETs, users could choose either of them after booted up using vesa. Thus, installing the proprietary nvidia driver wouldn't be a nightmare.

Note that I don't see a huge performance difference between vesa, nv and nouveau.

[playdayz]

think that the best way to survive would be removing BOTH nv and nouveau drivers from the sfs. If they are in separate PETs, users could choose either of them after booted up using vesa. Thus, installing the proprietary nvidia driver wouldn't be a nightmare.

Nouveau was accidentally present in luci-210. My fault--it snuck back in. It is not planned in 5.1

This means one more luci before the Beta. Rats on me.

I will post 211 today--with this and a couple of other fixes.

[playdayz]

Test3 (Lupu 5.00 for comparison)
-----
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 500

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: NV18 Board - p119s0nz Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

scruffy, Test 3 is using the nvidia driver which is the only one that uses hardware acceleration--that is why it is much faster. As I said above I screwed up and the nouveau driver snuck into luci-210 which messes up installing the nvidia pet. Please look forward to luci-211. You can also mess with 201 to get the nvidia pet to install and run.

[gjuhasz]

1. Bugs that you reported previously that were fixed - make sure they are still fixed.

There are some issues concerning Mplayer. Does not play sound for mobile videos (.3gp, .mp4). Cannot play .webm files. (In spup, all mentioned are OK)

2. The upgrade path for your graphics card - can you get high performance (glx) graphics...

Beyond nouveau, the nv driver should also be moved to PET. This allows painless selection of either nv/nouveau or nvidia.

3. The programs in Quickpet and Puppy Package Manager ... Some other programs require that you install Python.

Installing some software from PET package does not recognize missing dependencies that require further manual install and activation. E.g., Jokosher requires Python then Python requires pygtk ... an average user gives up seeking further todo-s: he needs to enter 'update-python-modules' in a terminal and then enter 'jokosher' and it should run. Maybe I am an average user or below, but Jokosher still refuses to work for me

Thats all. In general, Luci seems to be on the right way towards 5.1

[playdayz]

As you have been telling me, Nvidia is a mess. I apologize; I have been doing other things. Those other things needed to be done though.

On my FX 5200 none of the nvidia pets would work. I notice that Ubuntu has the nvidia drivers--a multitude of them. We need to find out if they work and if so then we could offer them with a table of which one to select--we could even help. 01micko is that what you mean by giving people the number of their card?

I am feeling kind of ornery today, but it is going to take us longer than planned to get the Nvidia right, so imho opinion we might consider booting directly to the desktop--we understand things a tiny bit better now. Except, to boot directly to the desktop, you need Icewm because JWM will not resize itself correctly. That is one of at elast 3 big things that jwm does not do correctly--2) it doesn't allow gnome-m,player 0.9.9.2 (the lastest) to go full screen correctly, and 3) it doesnt' allow Stellarium to run correctly either. Notice a pattern? What's your opinion?

Here is some trivia. Ubuntu's nouveau driver doesn't do hardware acceleration--other distros do. In my experiments today, neither nv or fbdev do software acceleration worth a darn. So, for us, their is no open source acceleration at all. Additionally there is no one nvidia driver that works across the board, but neither are there multiple drivers as with ati, so that you could have, say, 3, that would cover all ATI cards.

[Stripe]

Hi All
I can play sound for mobile videos (.3gp, .mp4) in Gplayer and smplayer just mp4 and 3gp yideos are not very good (dont know if they are supposed to be)
Hope this helps
Don