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playdayz · #271 Post by **playdayz** » Fri 18 Jun 2010, 18:34

Installed the HDradeon with quickpet
it is showing up in the package manager but after a x
restart or even full restart it is not coming up in the
Hardinfo settings - which it did previously
Am I forgetting something?

Radeonhd is Quickpet is not the one that gives hardware acceleration (it is just an alternate to the radeon driver--that gives 16-bit which is the only difference I have seen) For hardware acceleration the one is now the Xorg_Full in PPM.

Got Fotoxx btw. It looks nice.

playdayz · #272 Post by **playdayz** » Fri 18 Jun 2010, 18:38

dit: Just found that there's a Filezilla 3.3.3 pet already. There I go reinventing the wheel...

Yes, We need to keep a list somewhere. I guess that would be my job

How about in the first message of this thread?

Also tubeguy, They say that there is no advantage in splitting up the components of OpenOffice--but I wonder--even a small savings in size might be helpful.

playdayz · #273 Post by **playdayz** » Fri 18 Jun 2010, 19:06

Please read everyone. It is great to have help making program packages. It is a contribution to a better Lucid Puppy 5.1. Thank you very much.

Please consider this. In making the packages there is a strong preference for using Ubuntu binaries or compiling the program in a version of luci (the testing releases for Lucid Puppy 5.1). The reason for this is that there is a presumption of stability. The Ubuntu binaries are not the same infrastructure as previous or other Puppies. and mix and match would not be a good idea. Only in special cases would we want to use a package that was not made from the Ubuntu binaries or compiled in luci, and that would be only after we tried to build it in those two ways.

I just thought of this additional thing. We should build and test the packages in the latest version of luci. We should be careful *not* to add any libraries, etc., that are already in luci--because when the package would be removed it would take those libraries with it. So if we build and test in luci I think that would take care of itself. Thanks

And also, we should uninstall everything else before building a package, so it is just the base luci-204. If anything else is installed it might provide a dependency that would not always be present.

James C · #274 Post by **James C** » Fri 18 Jun 2010, 21:56

Used the Ubuntu packages and made a pet for XFE file manager.
This Xfe pet includes Xfwrite text editor, Xfimage image viewer,Xfe file manager,Xfview text viewer and Xfpack package manager.

Download link..............2.83 mb Xfe-1.32.1 pet

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-a8eacc95.html

Pet was made from Ubuntu packages in Luci 204 and tested in 204 and Lucid Puppy 501.

Test it ,mirror it and have fun.

Lobster · #275 Post by **Lobster** » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 04:09

made a pet for XFE file manager

That should be useful - will see if I can delete files from my cameras
SD card which seem ultra protected (a good thing on the whole)

Many thanks. It has no title bar for resizing or dragging?

Tried icewm - reminder that xwin icewm has to be entered
after pressing ctrl+alt + backspace (save open files first)
Can a menu item be entered/included?

Tried Skype
After trying to download from 3 repos - gave up
(yep a typical user response)

Liked Lucid repo being the only available
download by default in the package manager
Giving access to more does not make them usable
for most users

James C · #276 Post by **James C** » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 04:36

Lobster wrote: It has no title bar for resizing or dragging?

Not that I can find.

Had never tried Xfe until I made the pet, perhaps someone more familiar can advise.
Pretty neat though that Xfe has its own text editor, image viewer, text viewer and package manager too.Found a new little app to experiment with.

James C · #277 Post by **James C** » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 04:45

Luci-204 is working fine on the old P3 test box.Installed my usuall pets with Quickpet (Opera, Pwidgets, etc.) as well as Arora and Xfe and everything is working well.

Installed the Xorg update pet so hardware acceleration works, actually nothing bad to gripe about at all.

01micko · #278 Post by **01micko** » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 05:39

ffmpeg-0.6

NOTE Package has been updated, dependencies are included in package for luci-204. If you attempt to use in Puppy 5x you will need extra dependencies.

This is the full enchilada, so I wouldn't expect it in the main iso.. it won't support old machines anyway. It is compiled i686 to enable everything (except ffserver is disabled)

ffplay is enabled, it is the default ffmpeg player, pretty basic.

This supports webm, you can actually convert an mpeg4 or whatever to a webm file! Exciting stuff!

Ok, no more hoo har.. you want it.. right?

Here it is.

ffmpeg http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/ffmpeg- ... -Lucid.pet

checksum: cc8a32a9f3e127ee5961b097e67587bc ffmpeg1-0.6-i686-Lucid.pet

petspecs http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/ffmpeg- ... -0.6.specs

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
ONLY needed for Puppy 5x, plus this one here

dependencies, packaged as a pet http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/ffmpeg- ... es-0.6.pet

Please use only in Lucid based Puppies

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

_____________________________________________

For devs

http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/ffmpeg- ... -Lucid.pet
http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/ffmpeg- ... -0.6.specs
deps not included but are listed in petspecs, a useful resource..http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libdevel/ but you'll have to find libvpx-dev, it's out there...

_______________________________________________

What do I do with it????

Well, you can convert videos to webm, download videos in webm format and watch them in ffplay. Ok, maybe not so exciting for some, but we now have the technology to ditch
embedded Flash videos on our websites.. and use html5 webm videos instead.. how cool is that?

You can download and watch this video with ffplay

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ffplay video.webm

This is a video I converted from mp4 to webm.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOTE: Browser support for Webm is NOT dependant upon this package, you need a capable browser, Chromium-6 is best

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I figured out how to use the <video> tag in html5, it's the same as <img> tag .. but there's probably more to it than that!

Here's a test page
http://users.tpg.com.au/01micko//video-test.html

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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
  <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
 http-equiv="Content-Type">
  <title>video-test</title>
</head>
<body>
this is a test video using html5, right click to play the video, you must use latest Chomium, or Firefox nightly build, or I think Opera-10.60 works<br>
<br>
Does it work for you?<br>
<br>
Report at <a
 href="http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=428349&sid=c10568ca060e03ca9e7134f0cfe1e2e0#428349">Puppy
Forum</a><br>
<br>
<video alt="" title="test video"
 src="http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/webm-test/video.webm"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</body>
</html>

##################################################

Cheers and enjoy

Lobster · #279 Post by **Lobster** » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 06:52

Thanks mick
OK further to our conversation
I have uploaded the following code
here
http://tmxxine.com/webm/

If you are in Chrome (nightly webm enabled)
please report if it plays webm
it also uses flash or ogg

if webm is not supported
it will try to download the file rather than play it . . .

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<!-- Lobster modified from Kroc Camen of Camen Design -->
<video width="640" height="360" controls preload="none">
  <source src="big_buck_bunny.mp4"  type="video/mp4"  />
  <source src="big_buck_bunny.webm" type="video/webm" />
  <source src="big_buck_bunny.ogv"  type="video/ogg"  />
	<object width="640" height="384" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="__FLASH__.SWF">
		<param name="movie" value="__FLASH__.SWF" />
		<param name="flashvars" value="image=__POSTER__.JPG&file=big_buck_bunny.mp4" />
		<img src="__VIDEO__.JPG" width="640" height="360" alt="__TITLE__"
		     title="No video playback capabilities, please download the video below" />
	</object>
</video>
<p>	<strong>Download Video:</strong>
	Closed Format:	 <a href="big_buck_bunny.mp4">"MP4"</a>
	Open Format:	 <a href="big_buck_bunny.ogv">"OGG"</a>
	New WebM Format: <a href="big_buck_bunny.webm">"WEBM"</a>
	<br>
	You should see something - perhaps just a picture <br>
	If not supported, webm or other files will attempt <br>
	to download rather than play . . .
</p>

tubeguy · #280 Post by **tubeguy** » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 09:31

01micko wrote:tubeguy, do you know how to do this? Might be useful for your site. And the beauty is that if a user doesn't have webm capable kit/software then they can still watch the videos in Flashplayer.

I'm aware of it...thanks for thinking of me, but I'm still trying to figure out how to get the OO pet menus working.

aarf · #281 Post by **aarf** » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 10:01

@micko: put the webm pets into puppeeec6 and quirky120 , both show no video on the test page when viewed with opera10.60beta1.
thing s mp4 that played before in quirky now wont play in gnomeplayer. removed pets and mp4s play again.
no go for lupu117
also no go for http://tmxxine.com/webm/ in all of above

01micko · #282 Post by **01micko** » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 10:37

hello aarf

I will be clear here. The browser is not dependant on ffmpeg. So even without the pets it *should* work, but in Opera it doesn't. Even their special web-m version (http://snapshot.opera.com/webm/opera-10 ... ux.tar.bz2) fails, even on the webm pages in you-tube

Of course the pets are designed for Luci so I don't know if they would work in Puppeee or Quirky. What you can try, since you have the pets installed is downloading the file and use ffplay

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ffplay /path/to/file.webm

to play it locally.

HTH

Cheers

aarf · #283 Post by **aarf** » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 10:49

lupu117 with webm pets:

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# ffplay big_buck_bunny.webm
ffplay: error while loading shared libraries: libvpx.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

01micko · #284 Post by **01micko** » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 11:01

Seamonkey-2.1alpha bombs out too.

ok, thought I added that one, it is the main one!

Here's a pet

aarf · #285 Post by **aarf** » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 11:06

puppeeerc6 +webm pets using native chrome 5.0.375.55:

http://tmxxine.com/webm/ plays image excellent, sound barely audible with fluctuating wave in out.

http://users.tpg.com.au/01micko//video-test.html no video

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# ffplay big_buck_bunny.webm
ffplay: error while loading shared libraries: libtheoraenc.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
#

01micko · #286 Post by **01micko** » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 11:14

aarf

Be aware that Lobster has a flash backup.. so it probably played in flashplayer,

When you install that lib, do an ldd on ffmpeg

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ldd /usr/bin/ffmpeg|grep 'not'

if nothing is returned you are good to go with ffplay, else let me know what else is missing.

Cheers

aarf · #287 Post by **aarf** » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 11:24

01micko wrote:aarf

Be aware that Lobster has a flash backup.. so it probably played in flashplayer,

Cheers

doesnt look like flash to me

aarf · #288 Post by **aarf** » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 11:33

puppeeerc6 +original 2 webM pets only

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# ldd /usr/bin/ffmpeg|grep 'not'
/usr/bin/ffmpeg: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.11' not found (required by /usr/lib/libxvidcore.so.4)
	libtheoraenc.so.1 => not found
	libtheoradec.so.1 => not found
	libvpx.so.0 => not found
	liboil-0.3.so.0 => not found
#

taking a break now,

Lobster · #289 Post by **Lobster** » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 11:41

the page is designed to 'play something' from a choice of 3 formats
http://tmxxine.com/webm/
It played nothing in the puppy browser - so the code is not perfect

Use the options at the bottom to see if it plays the webm (Chrome Nightly builds only at present) or mp4 or ogg

The full cartoon in case you have not seen it,
created with Open source software
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE7VzlLtp-4

Puppy
Linux Playground

01micko · #290 Post by **01micko** » Sat 19 Jun 2010, 12:03

aarf

Have a nice break. Best to stick with Lucid Puppies for this one I think. Probably best to uninstall ffmpeg and restore the original from /initrd/pup_ro2/usr/bin in Puppeee. Just leave the dependencies there, it may drag out some that are needed if you uninstall.

If you persevere with lupu-117 then http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/lucid/libs/ , that is where you find all the Ubuntu libs.

Cheers

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