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tronkel


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PostPosted: Sat 14 Aug 2010, 17:23    Post subject:  

@micko

I've been using alien2pet recently. It certainly does speed things up - much better than having to manually merge up package folder trees that sometimes can be complicated. One small mistake can be time-consuming to find within a large tree.

BTW any further progress with apt-get/Synaptic?
I reckon the problem is to do with the initial apt-get configuration.

There must be a script within the Ubuntu Ubiquity installer that handles this. Might be an idea to take a peek at this and adapt it for Lucid. I'll have another go at it when I get time.

Time? whatever that is LOL. I'm left here on my own for 2 weeks fending for myself, (cooking and stuff), since my wife has to help out at her old Uni putting the poor unfortunate students through their final exams.

If I survive the starvation, I let you know how I get on with apt-get..

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Aug 2010, 17:43    Post subject:  

edoc wrote:
Would this work on a avi to dpg or wmv to avi converter app?

Or are those specialized and need particular attention to convert to Puppy?


Yes, however not everything works out of the box. Some apps need special tweaking for the Puppy environment. Why not give it a try and report back?

Cheers

sidenote: doc, alien2puppy might be best for you as I know you like playing with spup.. I successfully built avidemux in spup, only tweak was the .desktop file which the script can handle, manual tweaking though, I might try and make it automatic one day.

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Aug 2010, 18:30    Post subject:  

Hey tubeguy and stripe, Using Audacious--pet on page 128--I was able to 1) play music with my m-audio card on my big machine, and 2) play music with my extigy on my p3 thinkpad. Neither were the first cards--and nothing else would even acknowledge the extigy or play through the m-audio. What I did is discussed in the post with audacious. I bet it might play your turtle beach usb card tubeguy. With Audacious I do not need to block any cards--I can choose between them.
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PostPosted: Sat 14 Aug 2010, 18:40    Post subject:  

I have switched over from spup 040 to Lucid 5.1, but thanks for the thought!
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PostPosted: Sat 14 Aug 2010, 19:22    Post subject:  

stu90 wrote:
Im not a coder so don't expect much but If anyone is interested i have made a little GUI for Scrot.


Excellent!

Questions:

1. How did you do that?

2. What is the value of the various time settings? I have not yet seen an occasion where I wanted anything other than instant.

3. What do I do with the "111" to program the PrtSc key?

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Aug 2010, 19:53    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
01micko wrote:
James C..

I beat you in "How Low can Lupu Go?" stakes.... Laughing

AMD K6 400, 128MB RAM, 300MB swap Razz

Laughing
Cheers!


New entry.Lupu-510...live pfix=ram. Smile



-Processor-
Name : M II 2.5x Core/Bus Clock
Family, model, stepping : 6, 2, 4 (VIA Cyrix III (M2 core))
Vendor : CyrixInstead
-Configuration-
Cache Size : 0kb
Frequency : 250.11MHz
BogoMIPS : 500.21
Byte Order : Little Endian
-Features-
FDIV Bug : no
HLT Bug : no
F00F Bug : no
Coma Bug : no
Has FPU : yes
-Cache-
Cache information not available
-Capabilities-
fpu : Floating Point Unit
de : Debug Extensions - I/O breakpoints
tsc : Time Stamp Counter and RDTSC instruction
msr : Model Specific Registers
cx8 : CMPXCHG8 instruction
pge : Page Global Enable
cmov : Conditional Move instruction
mmx : MMX technology
cyrix_arr : Cyrix ARRs (= MTRRs)
up : smp kernel running on up



-Computer-
Processor : M II 2.5x Core/Bus Clock
Memory : 121MB (68MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.51
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 12 Aug 2010 02:16:18 PM GMT-8
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ES1938 - ESS ES1938 (Solo-1)
-Input Devices-



-OpenGL-
Vendor : Mesa Project
Renderer : Software Rasterizer
Version : 2.1 Mesa 7.7.1
Direct Rendering : Yes


glx# glxgears
23 frames in 5.1 seconds
22 frames in 5.1 seconds
32 frames in 5.1 seconds
29 frames in 5.0 seconds
30 frames in 5.1 seconds
31 frames in 5.1 seconds
26 frames in 5.0 seconds
24 frames in 5.0 seconds


Compaq Presario 5304.............................booted to a desktop,correct resolution w/ working sound and internet..Correctly identified video and recommended Xorg_High. Install Xorg_High and Opera.....posting from 510 right now.

Pretty slow though. Laughing


Dagnabit! You trumped me! Laughing

I guess I'll have to concede... for now Wink

Cheers Laughing

[thinking]
*micko racks brain*... er.... where can I find 64M of old 72 pin RAM for my 486...oooh nice sunny day... woops, yep 486...RAM.. hmmm...???
[/unthinking]

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aarf

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Aug 2010, 20:13    Post subject: Re: Lucid strong point  

01micko wrote:
tronkel wrote:
These latest 3D games illustrate a big strength of Lucid i.e. the excellent Ubuntu compatibility. The extra libraries that contribute to the larger-than-normal ISO size is the reason that it's possible to take Ubuntu Lucid Lynx packages and easily (usually) build a pet from them that's simple to install for the average end-user (one click on the pet). So the extra 30MB is a good trade-off between size and usefulness.

If you are recommending a version of Puppy to anyone, this aspect of ease of creation of good pet packages, is a good reason for recommending Lucid Puppy.

If I get the time I'll look into getting the Flight Gear flight simulator running as a pet.


tronkel

I made a tool (see my signature) that makes it super easy for anyone to make a pet or sfs out of debs, if you want you can try it and maybe suggest where I can make improvements. debs2pkg or alien2puppy, the former is what it says and the latter supports Slack tgz and txz formats.

James C and tubeguy were busy making packages and James managed to get at least 1 in the repo, arora, a neat qt, webkit browser, and don570 liked it too.

Basically all it does is run a loop to unpack the debs in a folder, has an option to strip, has a pause to give you a chance to sort out the .desktop file and icon then runs mksquashfs or petget. It has a help option too, all command line but I tried to word it very simply with error messages if you make a boo boo and just a splash of colour for fun. (There is also a fun version of debs2pkg called debs2pkgfun which gives you a little reward at the end. courtesy of Pizzasgood). It may be a time saver for you, though I know you are professional programmer Wink

Cheers

installation instructions wouldn't go astray.
made a transcoder sfs in puppeee with debs2pkg that worked for some conversions.

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Aug 2010, 20:35    Post subject:  

How about this? Using Firefox 3.6.8 as default browser to view pga.com live broadcast of the PGA Championship full screen in Lupu 5.1. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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stu90


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Location: England. Dell Inspiron 1501. Dpup

PostPosted: Sat 14 Aug 2010, 21:22    Post subject:  

edoc wrote:
stu90 wrote:
Im not a coder so don't expect much but If anyone is interested i have made a little GUI for Scrot.


Excellent!

Questions:

1. How did you do that?

2. What is the value of the various time settings? I have not yet seen an occasion where I wanted anything other than instant.

3. What do I do with the "111" to program the PrtSc key?


I made it with GtkDialog, there is a GtkDialog tips thread in the Programming section.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=38608

r.e time settings - couple of reasons - Im no good at writing code so i put them there just to see if i could and get it to work & mtpaint-snapshot has a 10 second delay option which i find a bit long. Cool

Just for an instant screen shot or selection etc GUI maybe try something like this.

Right click in /root or wherever new>script the right click open as text and paste this in and save it:

Code:

#! /bin/bash
export MAIN_DIALOG='

<vbox>
 <text use-markup="true"><label>"<b>Scrot</b>"</label></text>
 <pixmap><input file>/usr/share/pixmaps/gtkam.png</input></pixmap>
  <text use-markup="true"><label>"<b>Screen Shot</b>"</label></text>
 
      <button width-request="130">
       <label>Screen</label>
      <action>exec scrot &</action>
       <action>exit: scrot</action>
     </button>
     
     <button width-request="130">
       <label>Selection</label>
      <action>exec scrot -s &</action>
       <action>exit: scrot</action>
     </button>
     
      <button width-request="130">
       <label>Window</label>
      <action>exec scrot -u -b &</action>
       <action>exit: scrot</action>
     </button>
 
<button>
      <label>Quit</label>
   </button>
</vbox>
'
gtkdialog3 --program=MAIN_DIALOG


Should produce this when you click on script.


Dont know about the 111 and printscreen key sorry Confused
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PostPosted: Sat 14 Aug 2010, 22:31    Post subject: scrot pet please  

ok stu, so where's the pet Question
I can't find it!
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PostPosted: Sat 14 Aug 2010, 22:40    Post subject:  

DaveS wrote:
Blue theme. Includes very narrow window frame at top to take up minimal space


I tried this in Lucid 5.1 and cannot see anything different.

I did reboot to be sure ...

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Aug 2010, 23:17    Post subject:  

edoc wrote:
I tried this in Lucid 5.1 and cannot see anything different.


menu>desktop>desktop settings>jwm configuration>choose a jwm theme>blue>exit.
Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun 15 Aug 2010, 00:51    Post subject:  

sinc wrote:
edoc wrote:
I tried this in Lucid 5.1 and cannot see anything different.


menu>desktop>desktop settings>jwm configuration>choose a jwm theme>blue>exit.
Very Happy


Also menu>desktop>Nathan Wallpaper Setter>Talento-Blue

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Aug 2010, 01:14    Post subject:  

DaveS wrote:
Blue theme. Includes very narrow window frame at top to take up minimal space


Nice theme........using it now.Thanks....... Smile
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PostPosted: Sun 15 Aug 2010, 01:22    Post subject:  

DaveS wrote:
Do you reckon it would be easy to get Xfce desktop up and running all?


Dejan555 just made an XFCE 4.6.2 pet for DPup so it probably wouln't take a lot of tweaking to make it work in 510.
Post is http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=438822#438822
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