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stu90


Joined: 25 Feb 2010
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Location: England. Dell Inspiron 1501. Dpup
PostPosted: Tue 10 Aug 2010, 14:15    Post subject:  
Lobster wrote:
Have I done something strange to Firefox?
Does pressing f11 or full page view, turf you out to the command prompt
- only seems to be happening in Icewm and is also happening in mplayer?


James C wrote:
Lobster wrote:
Have I done something strange to Firefox?
Does pressing f11 or full page view, turf you out to the command prompt
- only seems to be happening in Icewm and is also happening in mplayer?


My Firefox does the same in icewm as well.....fine in jwm.


510 frugal - Same thing happens with opera portable running IceWM.
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01micko


Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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Location: qld
PostPosted: Tue 10 Aug 2010, 16:01    Post subject:  
Jim1911 wrote:
@team Great work. Absolutely no problems on this system. Everything just works with autoconfiguration, and extras installed using Quickpet and ppm. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

@01micko

Your new wbar and wbar configuration .pets work great. A really fine addition to Lupu. Thank you.

Consider these thoughts:
1. In configuration changes, "Choose a Font" and "Choose a Font Size" need to retain changes as "Your Wbar List" does. Presently, every time "Configuration" is opened, those values have to be reset to the desired setting.

Now on the 'to do' list, shouldn't be difficult



Jim1911 wrote:

2. When your .pets are made available through Quickpet or ppm, include some basic instructions ie. restartX to start wbar, location of "Wbar Setup" in the menu, etc.

Will add to the pinstall splash message, which flies by too fast I admit..



Jim1911 wrote:

3. Include a capability to autohide wbar.

Cheers,
Jim Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Interesting, may have to wait a little while for that one.

Thanks as always for your comments Jim, I know you suggested I revisit Wbar early in in development of Lupu, well I finally got to it!

Cheers mate.
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2byte

Joined: 09 Oct 2006
Posts: 356
PostPosted: Tue 10 Aug 2010, 16:28    Post subject:  
RC2 is pretty nice. Have only tested this for a short time.

It boots to 1280 x 1024 with my Intel 865G but cannot get any other resolution even after installing xorg-high pet, just black screens. Glxgears reports 520 fps though. EDIT: dropping the refresh rates from 30-85 to 30-80 cured this.

Google Earth seems perfect.
Firefox and Thunderbird install & update fine.
It would be nice to have a post-install script to give you the option of having Thunderbird as the default email client, runnable from the desktop icon. The Firefox pet does this.

Wine errors installing Gecko. Also no sound with wine. I believe there are some sound libraries that need to be included.
EDIT: wine 1.2 sfs from green_dome works perfectly.

No support for SmartLink PCI modems. I understand this to be an issue with the kernel used in Lucid? No chance for a retro kernel or the 2.6.34 kernel and a fix for this I suppose? EDIT: USR 5637 USB modem works great.

All in all this is a very nice piece of work. One of the easiest Puppies to get started with for sure. It auto-configures all of my basic stuff, display, keyboard, and network. Besides that it looks good too.
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sinc


Joined: 22 Jul 2009
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Location: Tampa, FL USA
PostPosted: Tue 10 Aug 2010, 16:52    Post subject:  
2byte wrote:
There is no way that I can see to switch to icewm without exiting to x and typing 'xwin icewm-session'. New users won't know this.

I'm not sure if you didn't see this or it didn't work. But this works for me.

menu>desktop>desktop settings>WM switcher
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01micko


Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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Location: qld
PostPosted: Tue 10 Aug 2010, 17:14    Post subject:  
libjpeg-7

Freshly baked, couldn't find previously compiled version Crying or Very sad

Oh well

Note: a requirement for Xsane scanning, saving to jpeg format.

Cheers

EDIT: someone got the fat version, I forgot to strip Embarassed

2nd EDIT: removed symlink of libjpeg.so to libjpeg.so.7.0.0, leaves it pointing to libjpeg.so.62.0.0, thanks rcrsn51

You must uninstall the libjpeg-7-lucid.pet if you installed it
libjpeg-7-1-lucid.pet
Description  this is the one you want
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libjpeg_DEV-MAN-7-lucid.pet
Description  dev and man files, most won't need or want this
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Tasgarth

Joined: 06 Oct 2008
Posts: 197
Location: France, Besancon
PostPosted: Tue 10 Aug 2010, 17:20    Post subject: Lupu 510 Frugal and Full installs  
1) Lupu 510 Frugal install : OK and nice

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2) 510 Full install ext3 (multiboot) :
Only a problem with the keyboard layout('azerty' and 'fr' ) => I modified xorg.conf "xkbLayout" "fr"
and now it's OK.
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Thanks Playdayz, 01micko and the team.

Asus M2V Nvidia GeForce 7600 GT 256 Mb
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 4742
Location: Kentucky
PostPosted: Tue 10 Aug 2010, 17:25    Post subject:  
Dug another test box off the shelf...........................Lupu-510 RC2 live pfix=ram.All basically good.




VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 510

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#


-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
Version : 1.7.6
-Monitors-
Monitor 0 : 1024x768 pixels


-OpenGL
Vendor : Tungsten Graphics, Inc
Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 865G GEM 20091221 2009Q4 x86/MMX/SSE2
Version : 1.3 Mesa 7.7.1
Direct Rendering : Yes



# glxgears
1624 frames in 5.0 seconds
1561 frames in 5.0 seconds
1892 frames in 5.0 seconds
1941 frames in 5.0 seconds
1883 frames in 5.0 seconds
2836 frames in 5.0 seconds
3216 frames in 5.0 seconds
3506 frames in 5.0 seconds
3189 frames in 5.0 seconds
3511 frames in 5.0 seconds
3554 frames in 5.0 seconds





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edoc


Joined: 07 Aug 2005
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Location: Southeast Georgia, USA
PostPosted: Tue 10 Aug 2010, 17:53    Post subject:  
01micko wrote:
libjpeg-7

Freshly baked, couldn't find previously compiled version Crying or Very sad


I wonder why it is not here?

http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libs/

Quote:
libjpeg62 (6b-15ubuntu1)
The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG runtime library


Is Ubuntu somewhat conservative about what they post there?

Or are they just behind on posting the updated versions?
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rcrsn51


Joined: 05 Sep 2006
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Location: Stratford, Ontario
PostPosted: Tue 10 Aug 2010, 18:09    Post subject:  
01micko: I don't know if this is significant, but when I did my own test install of libjpeg7, I left libjpeg.so pointing to libjpeg.so.62.0.0. Xsane worked fine with this configuration.

Now libjpeg.so points to libjpeg.so.7.0.0. Might this ever be a bad thing?
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01micko


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PostPosted: Tue 10 Aug 2010, 18:14    Post subject:  
Quote:
Now libjpeg.so points to libjpeg.so.7.0.0. Might this ever be a bad thing?


Hmmm.. possibly.. I will change the package

Thanks
Cheers
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playdayz


Joined: 25 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Aug 2010, 18:29    Post subject:  
Quote:
I wonder why it is not here?

http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libs/

Quote:
libjpeg62 (6b-15ubuntu1)
The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG runtime library


Is Ubuntu somewhat conservative about what they post there?

Or are they just behind on posting the updated versions?

They don't use it in lucid lynx 10.04. And it does not show up in Maverick either.
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playdayz


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PostPosted: Tue 10 Aug 2010, 19:01    Post subject:  
Quote:
Lobster wrote:
Have I done something strange to Firefox?
Does pressing f11 or full page view, turf you out to the command prompt
- only seems to be happening in Icewm and is also happening in mplayer?


James C wrote:
Lobster wrote:
Have I done something strange to Firefox?
Does pressing f11 or full page view, turf you out to the command prompt
- only seems to be happening in Icewm and is also happening in mplayer?


My Firefox does the same in icewm as well.....fine in jwm.


510 frugal - Same thing happens with opera portable running IceWM.



Lobster, JamesC, Stu90, What are you doing in Firefox when it happens, just clicking F11 for full screen? Watching videos? How have you started Icewm? Does it happen with other browsers? Are you using any additional software than stock? Could you reboot pfix=ram and see if it still happens please?


Can anyone else create the situation?
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Aug 2010, 19:09    Post subject:  
playdayz wrote:
Quote:
Lobster wrote:
Have I done something strange to Firefox?
Does pressing f11 or full page view, turf you out to the command prompt
- only seems to be happening in Icewm and is also happening in mplayer?


James C wrote:
Lobster wrote:
Have I done something strange to Firefox?
Does pressing f11 or full page view, turf you out to the command prompt
- only seems to be happening in Icewm and is also happening in mplayer?


My Firefox does the same in icewm as well.....fine in jwm.


510 frugal - Same thing happens with opera portable running IceWM.



Lobster, JamesC, Stu90, What are you doing in Firefox when it happens, just clicking F11 for full screen? Watching videos? How have you started Icewm? Does it happen with other browsers? Are you using any additional software than stock?

Can anyone else create the situation?


I just tried it when I read Lobster's post. I had switched to icewm with the wm switcher as soon as I upgraded to 510 and I was here on the forum.............hit f11 and straight to the prompt. Entered "xwin" and restarted Firefox and I was back here.
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playdayz


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PostPosted: Tue 10 Aug 2010, 19:14    Post subject:  
I upgraded to 510

By upgraded do you mean that you upgraded from 509 or an earlier version through the Puppy upgrade process?

Could you reboot and try?

Then could you start an earlier version if you still have any and try?
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01micko


Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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Location: qld
PostPosted: Tue 10 Aug 2010, 19:28    Post subject:  
Hmmm.. I'm in 510 pfix=ram right now, FF3.6.6 no problem, I wonder if it's an xrandr thing to specific chipsets or family of chipsets, tho on main box and lappy all is ok., I do however get a brief screen flicker.

On googling, the Vlc ff plugin can cause drama.. but I think it needs to be running, but I guess the plugin is running whether vlc is or not Confused

Actually that test was in Jwm.. in Ucewm I don't get the flicker, it's actually better Confused
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