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#1021 Post by playdayz »

I suspect that this may be a continuation of my earlier problem - but was wondering if anybody else has had this happen.
Luci 213 on a frugal install on a usbstick.
I want to keep my firefox profile in /mnt/home
Now I could just alter profiles.inito point to /mnt/home but I've had real problems with this approach before - firefox refusing to start or claiming that there was another version running. So I thought, leave profiles.ini alone and just have a symlink.
The problem is, is that every time I reboot the symlink has turned into a folder. So I have to delete it, recreate the symlink. Then I normally have to start firefox in safemode, then restart it and all is well. A bit of a faff and presumably not necessary?
Is this where jre and openoffice are creating the trouble. we need to investigate, but I have not had the time yet. Thanks.

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Re: An annoying bug.

#1022 Post by 8-bit »

gjuhasz wrote:
playdayz wrote: It is implemented in luci-214 coming tomorrow.
I bet most of you have bumped into this. If one right-clicks a drive icon to select "unmount" from the pop-up menu, there is a good chance that both the icon and the menu disappear :( while the drive keeps being mounted.

I understand that this is a ROX issue but there must be a cure for this. For example, user confirmation could be requested before removing the item.
I have run into that problem also and I normally just restart X to restore the drive icon that has disappeared.

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#1023 Post by rhadon »

gjuhasz wrote:I bet most of you have bumped into this. If one right-clicks a drive icon to select "unmount" from the pop-up menu, there is a good chance that both the icon and the menu disappear while the drive keeps being mounted.
Sometimes the same problem and I normally just use Pmount to mount/unmount the disappeared drive till next boot.
Ich verwende "frugal", und das ist gut so. :wink:
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#1024 Post by gerry »

I've had this problem when right clicking on a drive icon, in most of the recent Puppies (not just Luci). I think it happens when the mouse moves slightly when you click. You need to use one hand to firmly clamp the mouse in place, then use the other hand to click.

gerry

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#1025 Post by rhadon »

gerry wrote:I've had this problem when right clicking on a drive icon, in most of the recent Puppies (not just Luci). I think it happens when the mouse moves slightly when you click.
For left clicking I can confirm. With right clicking for me no problem. Just have tested.
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nvidia graphic boards that are supported

#1026 Post by don570 »

Hey 01micko
I believe that catdude's driver NVIDIA-96.43.16_lupu500-k2.6.33.2.pet
will support more graphics boards than nvidia will admit.
There may be certain features that weren't implemented.
I have one of those boards
nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2)
It works fine on luci213. I was given no recommendation
when I booted up. I installed catdude's pet and
things are fine. Here's terminal output:

Code: Select all

# graphix_test 

nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2)
nVidia
GeForce2

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 213

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV10 Reference Board Chip Rev A1

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution:  Depth 24  Depth: "Display"
...and glxgears returned 4100 frames in 5 seconds which
is several times faster than I had previously!!
I give a better explanation and the list of nvidia graphics
boards that are apparently supported at catdude's page
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 91&t=56081
Please carefully read my two postings there and you'll get lots of info
that you'll need to support all nvidia boards.

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#1027 Post by 01micko »

Hey 01micko
I believe that catdude's driver NVIDIA-96.43.16_lupu500-k2.6.33.2.pet
will support more graphics boards than nvidia will admit.
There may be certain features that weren't implemented.
I have one of those boards
nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2)
It works fine on luci213. I was given no recommendation
when I booted up. I installed catdude's pet and
things are fine. Here's terminal output:
Hi don570

There will be a modified test for GeForce 4 series cards that will be in luci-214

That will give you a recommendation for the nVidia-96.43.16 (as it will be named in quickpet), based on scruffy's results on the previous page, I think his card is the same or similar. They were a popular card at the time, I had one at one stage.

Thanks for your report and I'll look at your post on CatDude's thread.

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nvidia geforce2 board

#1028 Post by don570 »

I hope you aren't confused.
My board is Geforce2.
Other people who have posted graphic board reports have
Geforce4

Thanks for a great OS! I wish there were more people
volunteering to help with translating. Isn't there somebody
out there who knows languages like Spanish, Portugese ,Russian

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#1029 Post by playdayz »

I think it happens when the mouse moves slightly when you click. You need to use one hand to firmly clamp the mouse in place, then use the other hand to click.
I think gerry is right (well the solution sounds a bit extreme).

BTW, I just posted Lupu-503 (aka luci-214).

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#1030 Post by 01micko »

playdayz wrote:
I think it happens when the mouse moves slightly when you click. You need to use one hand to firmly clamp the mouse in place, then use the other hand to click.
I think gerry is right.

BTW, I just posted Lupu-503 (aka luci-214).
Yes, gerry is right ... It appears in other pups as well, but It's only been a problem for me with an optical mouse that may have dust or a hair in the optical part. HTH.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The posting of "lupu-503" is our big chance to test upgrading from lupu-500 and lupu-501

If you test this, please backup your pupsave if running frugal/live and backup ALL important data if you run full

Thanks

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The Next Step Towards Lucid Puppy 5.1 - Lupu-503

#1031 Post by Billtoo »

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 503

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
4101 frames in 5.0 seconds
4850 frames in 5.0 seconds
4837 frames in 5.0 seconds
4839 frames in 5.0 seconds
#
Computer
Processor 2x Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5200 @ 2.50GHz
Memory 3364MB (102MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Wed 21 Jul 2010 07:46:30 PM GMT-8
Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) G33 GEM 20091221 2009Q4 x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
OpenGL
Vendor Tungsten Graphics, Inc
Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) G33 GEM 20091221 2009Q4 x86/MMX/SSE2
Version 1.4 Mesa 7.7.1
Direct Rendering Yes
#
I've got a full install and a frugal install of 212 and they are working beautifully so I'm waiting for the final before I disturb them :)

I'll try upgrading an older frugal install.

Edit:

I booted the cd with no special parameters and although there were old luci save files on the hard disk it didn't give me a list of save files to choose from so there's no updating going on there.In the past if I booted the cd that way and there were old save files on the hd it would list them by number with zero meaning don't load any of them.
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#1032 Post by 01micko »

lupu-503

Initial report.

Pretty good :)

Set my locale, timezone restarted X, connected with SNS, grabbed Firefox from browser installer

Nvidia went without a hitch

note The older nvidia users wont get "lupu recommends..".. my fault.. it is fixed just not implemented, so if you get that don't worry too much, we're on to it :wink:

Printing went as smooth as ever. :)

There's a bug with Icewm menu icons.. that's weird because the package I made up has the paths to menu icons.. hmm, maybe woof did something there.

More later.

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Re: The Next Step Towards Lucid Puppy 5.1 - Lupu-503

#1033 Post by 01micko »

Billtoo wrote: I've got a full install and a frugal install of 212 and they are working beautifully so I'm waiting for the final before I disturb them :)

I'll try upgrading an older frugal install.
Hi Billtoo

Upgrading only works if your pupsave prefix is "lupu", so it will only work from puppy 5/5.0.1 (or the testing versions pre puppy 5)

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Re: The Next Step Towards Lucid Puppy 5.1 - Lupu-503

#1034 Post by Billtoo »

01micko wrote:
Billtoo wrote: I've got a full install and a frugal install of 212 and they are working beautifully so I'm waiting for the final before I disturb them :)

I'll try upgrading an older frugal install.
Hi Billtoo

Upgrading only works if your pupsave prefix is "lupu", so it will only work from puppy 5/5.0.1 (or the testing versions pre puppy 5)

Cheers
Ah, I don't have any of those left, at least I don't think I do.

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Lupu-503

#1035 Post by rjbrewer »

Inspiron 700m, Intel 855gm graphics.

Lupu-503 boots into and shuts down fine from Xorg; using both
the live cd and another full install.

It has small fonts on shutdown script, but I don't want to use the
"video=640x480" code on the grub kernel line, that ICPUG uses.
It caused problems shutting down and rebooting on a Fluppy install.

Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs

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#1036 Post by playdayz »

Lupu-503 boots into and shuts down fine from Xorg; using both
the live cd and another full install.

It has small fonts on shutdown script, but I don't want to use the
"video=640x480" code on the grub kernel line, that ICPUG uses.
The CD has video=640x480 as a command in isolinux.cfg. Did ti also have small letters on shutdown?

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#1037 Post by rjbrewer »

playdayz wrote:
Lupu-503 boots into and shuts down fine from Xorg; using both
the live cd and another full install.

It has small fonts on shutdown script, but I don't want to use the
"video=640x480" code on the grub kernel line, that ICPUG uses.
The CD has video=640x480 as a command in isolinux.cfg. Did ti also have small letters on shutdown?
The CD had normal size letters on shutdown.
I added 503 to menu.lst manually for the full install.

Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
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#1038 Post by James C »

Fresh manual frugal install of Lupu-503 on the trusty old P3.On initial boot no problems or surprises.......everything was configured correctly.

Installed Firefox and Xorg_High.................................


VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 503

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (GMCH) Graphics Memory Controller Hub
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

-OpenGL-
Vendor : Keith Whitwell
Renderer : Mesa DRI i810E 20050821 x86/MMX/SSE
Version : 1.2 Mesa 7.7.1
Direct Rendering : Yes

1416 frames in 5.0 seconds
1478 frames in 5.0 seconds
1477 frames in 5.0 seconds
1503 frames in 5.0 seconds
1495 frames in 5.0 seconds
1476 frames in 5.0 seconds
1502 frames in 5.0 seconds
1492 frames in 5.0 seconds
1503 frames in 5.0 seconds
1118 frames in 5.0 seconds
1446 frames in 5.0 seconds
1502 frames in 5.0 seconds
2873 frames in 5.0 seconds
3686 frames in 5.0 seconds
3898 frames in 5.0 seconds

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The Next Step Towards Lucid Puppy 5.1 - Lupu-503

#1039 Post by Billtoo »

I booted the live cd with no parameters and it found a lupu-500 savefile
on the hd and updated that.I had to install the Xorg High -GLX.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 503

Chip description:
ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23885 PCI Video and Audio Decoder

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
#
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 503

Chip description:
ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23885 PCI Video and Audio Decoder

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
IRQ's not enabled, falling back to busy waits: 2 0
9024 frames in 5.0 seconds
9177 frames in 5.0 seconds
9177 frames in 5.0 seconds
9175 frames in 5.0 seconds
#
Tunapie and VLC (the version that had to be run as user spot) were two
of the additions I'd made to the lupu-500 install and they still work the
way they did in 500.
CPU frequency scaling wasn't activated and I would guess that it had been
but I don't know that for sure.
Amsn that I added in 500 still works.
Firefox is still 363 so I updated that in 363 to 367.
flashplayer plugin didn't need updating.

That's it I guess.

Edit:

When I click on the browser icon on the desktop it doesn't know that firefox
is already installed and it brings up the option to download a browser in quickpet.

Edit:

I loaded my updated savefile into 503 on the next boot and switched to icewm, I guess it's an old version of icewm because you can logout and use poweroff to shutdown but you can't shutdown from the icewm menu so that didn't get updated.

Am I confusing updating your old savefile with not breaking anything in your old savefile?
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First-run GUI

#1040 Post by shinobar »

For the first-run, how about the GUI such as like this?
Image
You can see my opinion from this screen shot.
  1. Should be what to do at a glance.
  2. Graphical icons help in any case the users are good at english or not.
  3. Messages should be short and simple.
  4. Current setting should be displayed.
  5. Timezone setting is essencial at this point of time. Imagine when you use email.

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