Lucid Puppy 5.1- A Full-Featured Compact Distro

[James C]

only problem still cant get to grips with is when doing a partial install, using grub to configure the boot record so I just used grub4dos

I have so many frugal installs that I just edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst

Menu -> System -> Grub bootloader config. It should start as part of the install, right? But I think I remember one case where it doesn't. If you start from scratch you need to put in the partition to put he grub files (/boot/menu.lst--for instance, /dev/sda2) and the partition to write the grub header (usually dev/sda). I also choose mbr routinely as the place to put the header.

As often as I install/reinstall I just edit the menu.lst too.My old test box right now has Windows,Debris,Slitaz,AntiX and 13 Puppy installs.
A Puppy live cd is my favorite way to install or reinstall Grub ,just did that a couple of days ago.Install Grub with Puppy, edit the menu.lst and back in business.
And if I remember to keep a backup copy of the menu.lst there is no editing necessary......just replace the menu.lst in Grub with the copy.Quick and easy.

[tasmod]

Hmm, a bit concerned here.

Is the firewall wizard working in Luci ??

I ask because I made up a small firewall tray applet and it worked OK in 431, however it didn't seem to work in Luci.

I checked the files and the /etc/firewall.conf doesn't exist and when the wizard is run it doesn't append the firewall lines to /etc/rc.d/rc.local as far as I can tell.

I have the lines in rc.local as I just put them in as I was testing anyway, so I removed them (commented) and ran the wizard. It doesn't append the firewall lines.

So I'm really not sure the wizard is doing anything. Can anyone confirm their firewall is working?

---

Sorry, false alarm.

It appears the firewall wizard checks for the existence of the lines in rc.local however it checks for them even if they are commented out in the file. Which is what i did to test.
If they are removed the wizard then adds them properly.

[tasmod]

I made up a small C tray applet 12kb in size which was meant for first runs of the installs.

It places an icon representing a "firewall off", it has a hover over tooltip that says "Firewall off,left click to run wizard".

It will open the firewall wizard to install the firewall.

Once firewall is installed the icon changes to a firewall icon and the tooltip changes to "Firewall On"

However at the moment it would stay in the tray. i did have a popup menu with a quit option on right click but typically one change I made in the code has screwed it up. I can't find what I did at the moment.
When it's done I'll post it up. It may be useful as a first reminder to turn firewall on.

[playdayz]

So where can I find these build and header files for k2.6.33.2 please?

rhadon, did you get these?

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01474

[playdayz]

As far as I can see the only change is the placement of icons on the desktop overlaying my existing
arrangement of icons.

Great scruffy. Thanks. That is a long standing issue and I doubt we will be able to do anything about it this time. I had promised someone we would look at it--I certainly intended to keep that promise.

[playdayz]

There are some issues concerning Mplayer. Does not play sound for mobile videos (.3gp, .mp4). Cannot play .webm files. (In spup, all mentioned are OK)

gjuhasz, There are two additional sets of the ffmpeg libraries in Puppy Package Manager. One is for i686 computers--which they all are nowadays except for true antiques. Imean a p3 is a 686 isn't it? Anyway, it might be interesting to try that. 01micko also built an advanced set of the libraries and he enabled Webm, so that might work. Neither will play voice with maci and the hedgehog--I think that might have something to do with luci audio config, because I even used quirky's mplayer and they still did not play sound.

[James C]

Luci-211 in the quad. Running live pfix=ram.

Display,sound and internet working correctly on initial boot.


VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 211

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

Vendor : Mesa Project
Renderer : Software Rasterizer
Version : 2.1 Mesa 7.7.1
Direct Rendering : Yes

#glxgears

2091 frames in 5.0 seconds
2224 frames in 5.0 seconds
2226 frames in 5.0 seconds
2225 frames in 5.0 seconds



Going to CatDude's Nvidia driver for this chipset.....update in a few.

EDIT:

Installed CatDude's 173.14.25 pet and the results are.........


VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 211

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#


Vendor : NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer : MCP61/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!
Version : 2.1.2 NVIDIA 173.14.25
Direct Rendering : Yes



Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
9854 frames in 5.0 seconds
15959 frames in 5.0 seconds
14677 frames in 5.0 seconds
11153 frames in 5.0 seconds
11142 frames in 5.0 seconds

[Billtoo]

I did a frugal install on my Acer desktop.
Downloaded and installed Catdude's NVIDIA-173.14.25_Lupu500-k2.6.33.2.pet
and installed it.I saw your message to Catdude.


# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 211

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: G84 Board - p402h00 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
29796 frames in 5.0 seconds
35558 frames in 5.0 seconds
34158 frames in 5.0 seconds
#
OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
Version 2.1.2 NVIDIA 173.14.25
Direct Rendering Yes

The glxgears frames is slower, was over 50000 with the newer driver in quickpet
but that will no longer work because 211 boots directly to the screen and
if I run xorgwizard and choose vesa the newer driver still won't work.
My other acer desktop is hopeless it seems (works in fatdog64 final) but no
way in 211.
One out of two will have to do I can just run fatdog64 on the other acer.

thanks.

[shinobar]

I made netsurf work ok with gtkmoz, but 'man' is a failure.

rewrite /usr/local/gtkmoz at line 15-:

Code: Select all

if [ $1 ];then
 URL=$1
 [ -f "$1" ] && URL="file://$1"
 exec netsurf "$URL"
fi

[DaveS]

When I click on the tray clock, should the calendar appear as per all(?) other Puppy versions, only, it does'nt?

[Lobster]

Yesterday I was playing with Ubuntu Studio PE (Puppy Edition)
The sound support (using Jack) was very good.
However I think Jack is quite large? Barry did try it and we may have abandoned it because it does not support older hardware?

I am using USB and trying to get sound working in gtk-recordmydesktop add on from the ppm. Recording video works. No sound.

It may be possible if I put in the USB device in the config rather than using the default? Or maybe Jack (sound driver) can be provided as a pet?

What is the command to check the driver being used - is it depmode [something]?

Glad to see the return of 'straight to desktop' in 211.
I was very disappointed (fully understood) when it was abandoned
That and quickpet improvements and locales would make a great 5.1
Great stuff guys

Ethernet connection is still not persistent and it probably means the config boot up is not being written to but I can not remember what that is and where . . .

[rhadon]

Quote:
So where can I find these build and header files for k2.6.33.2 please?



rhadon, did you get these?

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01474

Yes, found it. But also found the info from 01 Jul 2010:

For lupu there is no kernel sources at this point.
There is a "wary kernel sources" for the same kernel but there is a disparity in the gcc version that it was compiled on and it doesn't work with VBox in lupu.

I don't know if this is right but I will give it a try after you post devx211.
btw. would you post DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS for luci-211 please?

Next time I think I will post these kind of Questions in the thread "The Woof that is Building Lucid Puppy 5.1". Seems to be a better place for it.

Now to luci-211:

Boots fine to the desktop (gericom laptop) and I know (like a lot of others) that I have to change keyboard, locales and so on.
But what if one is completely new about Puppy? How should he/she know, what the default settings are? Maybe a small info about that is useful? (only suggestion)

Didn't test much yet, but looks good and works fine so far.

~ Rolf

[01micko]

Rolf, you looking for kernel source?


Try the big one, sorry about the size

http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/lupu_ke ... atched.sfs 181M

md5summ... http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/lupu_ke ... um-md5.txt

Cheers

[01micko]

I made netsurf work ok with gtkmoz, but 'man' is a failure.

rewrite /usr/local/gtkmoz at line 15-:

Code: Select all

if [ $1 ];then
 URL=$1
 [ -f "$1" ] && URL="file://$1"
 exec netsurf "$URL"
fi

Thanks shinobar, now 'man' is working with a local file and a remote file

I am attaching a pet of your work

Cheers

[rhadon]

Thank's Mick,

I will test it.

~ Rolf

[ICPUG]

Can anyone explain what has changed to make the touchpad work for DaveS?

Touchpad problems are happening in other Puppy 5s and it would be nice to know how to solve them.

[Abnormalter]

Hello all!
I test it and can be says, that it's good work!
IMHO, main points, who I see on current Puppy release, as best OS:
(1) supporting many hardware 'in box' and fast works...
(2) prevent they sadly delays for restart X / shutdown PC, who has last monts of many Puppy 5 releases...
(3) added usuable and reasonable tools for firstly configure the Puppy
(but it need an expansing it to users Language setups, I see it and I develop it as an addon, but not done it now...)

Hmm... I have an question about Luci 211 runned processes: 2th runs hald -- it is true way? (see screenshot please).
Two Q: how to a cause that the traytemp and/or battery-07 applets won't work under last and current Lucid Puppy distros? But it worked fine under Wary or Slack Puppy distros...

At last period I was tests many Puppy' releases and because it I have an exper matter for... and I'm need to 'customise' it and adjusting distros to: (a) multilanguage environment; (b) true netbook environmental applet sets... Because I develop a patch or tool-set for it.
Now I proposed Licid-Puppy5-Patching.pet (see attachment) who has this features:
1. Adjust Tray / Dock Applets to customization control (such is ~/Startup/dock script)
2. Use Multilanguage Control Applet (such is usr/bin/fbxk script and tools), uses automatically if your PC has LANG != 'en'
3. Add usuable Restart / Shutdown / Lock Pane, who can be hit on Memu Shutdown position and specially Shutdown Button by Tray
(The Button you can be see on my screenshot -- on right corner by Tray.)
4. Add a true working (patched me) Xlock, who prevent restart X/PC and use the OS without true users passwording...
5. Add an usuable feature for playing a music themes at start Puppy and shutdown it, if it's permit an user (need additional package for music themes and configuration utility, why I develop now but not done...)
For using it install the .pet and just restarting X, please.

Thanks!

UPD at 2010-07-19.
I update the package revision to Lucid-Puppy5-Patching-1.02 -- use it now!
Note. Please, uninstall previous version by Lucid-Puppy5-Patching BEFORE installing it.
Now I updating it:
(a) any Scripts;
(b) new configuration of Music Themes -- playing it on cooperated use to 'Start/Shutdown Music Play Setup' package (see about it my especially themes, named here: 'Start/Shutdown Music Play Setup');
(c) kill a bugs... and may be add a newest...
Added: full multy-languages support for "Who is I?' -- my smallest utilite, who can be used for displays us OS' information. It's reasonable for multi-boot using Puppy because prevent any mistakes on question, who is the exemplare (release or version) the Puppy OS uses on this time on your PC...

See my especially theme: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 429#435429 for get the 'Start/Shutdown Music Play Setup' package please!

UPD at 2010-07-20/21.
2th update the package revision to Lucid-Puppy5-Patching-1.02 -- use it now!
//Because prev. release of it has an postinstall script error...

[Stripe]

only problem still cant get to grips with is when doing a partial install, using grub to configure the boot record so I just used grub4dos

I have so many frugal installs that I just edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst

Menu -> System -> Grub bootloader config. It should start as part of the install, right? But I think I remember one case where it doesn't. If you start from scratch you need to put in the partition to put he grub files (/boot/menu.lst--for instance, /dev/sda2) and the partition to write the grub header (usually dev/sda). I also choose mbr routinely as the place to put the header.

As often as I install/reinstall I just edit the menu.lst too.My old test box right now has Windows,Debris,Slitaz,AntiX and 13 Puppy installs.
A Puppy live cd is my favorite way to install or reinstall Grub ,just did that a couple of days ago.Install Grub with Puppy, edit the menu.lst and back in business.
And if I remember to keep a backup copy of the menu.lst there is no editing necessary......just replace the menu.lst in Grub with the copy.Quick and easy.

Thanks Playdayz and JamesC will keep trying till it sinks in.

Downloaded and installed chrome 6 from quickpets and puppy package manager installs and runs fine

I have not noticed any problems with internet conectivity

Thanks
Don

[gur]

DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf
DejaVuSansMono-Bold.ttf
DejaVuSansMono.ttf
DejaVuSans.ttf
DejaVuSerif-Bold.ttf
DejaVuSerif.ttf
I then used Abiword to open various text test pages in foreign languages.
The biggest difference is that Arabic and Hebrew will now display properly.

Hi Don,
Thanks for sharing. Where can I download these fonts?

The writer also suggests that DejaVu Sans 12 become
the official Puppy system font.

+1
playdayz, micko, could you add it to luci-212?

[gjuhasz]

01micko also built an advanced set of the libraries and he enabled Webm, so that might work. Neither will play voice with maci and the hedgehog--I think that might have something to do with luci audio config, because I even used quirky's mplayer and they still did not play sound.

Hm. It's interesting. I did not test mplayer in Quirky but in Slackpup 030/040.
In Luci, if 01micko's ffmpeg is installed, ffplay plays .webm files well and (only with ffplay) both .3gp and .mp4 mobile videos have sound as I wrote in Post 486. Unfortunately, mplayer has failed since 207 (or before).