DLNA Tahr64 Pup – released 26th Nov 2015

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DLNA Tahr64 Pup – released 26th Nov 2015

On 16th November DLNA Werewolf64 Pup was released based on BarryK’s experimental Quirky Werewolf 64.
That Pup was a full install to USB stick with a 3 partition GPT layout.

This Pup is also spread across 3 partitions of a stick but uses an MBR layout and a more traditional “Puppy
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Reserved for Additional info, tips & FAQ:

Q1. Can I use a 16 GB stick?

A1. Yes, but if and only if its true capacity is not a single byte less than 15854469120 bytes. To test the true capacity of any 16GB stick that you possess use the following command substituting the drive letter for x
# fdisk -l /dev/sdx
If it does not meet this requirement you must use a 32GB stick.

Q2. How do I update Chrome when a new release is issued?

A2. A preset bookmark in Chrome leads to details of the latest releases. To upgrade, first use PPM to uninstall the existing version. Having done that, select “Get Latest Chrome Version
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PUPPY for home media enjoyment

#4 Post by gcmartin »

Downloaded from the Google link at a phenomenal 4MB/sec, today.

Be aware, that the writing to USB process is VERY slow in populating the media. So, in a terminal window, you will wait, and wait, and wait some more until you get the indication it is finished. To write my USB stick it wrote at 2.5MB/sec taking almost 2 hours.

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... bytes (16 GB) copied, 6462.57 s, 2.5 MB/s
I have media on a NAS. By mounting the NAS, then adding a link to the filesystem on the 3rd partition of the USB; for example

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# mkdir /mnt/3rd-partition-on-USB/NAS-media   # makes a folder on USB stick
# mount -o sec=ntlm,password=woofwoof,username=root   //path-to/MyNAS   /mnt/3rd-partition-on-USB/NAS-media
I can see and play the media from the NAS on my smartTV (DLNA), my smartPhone, and a visitor's tablet via this DLNA-TahrPUP.

Very very nice production of this for home multimedia use. Allows for media enjoyment throughout the house. It makes for a great addition to our homes. THANKS MUCHLY for this GREAT idea in Puppy usage. :idea:

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Issues on Pristine boot

#5 Post by gcmartin »

Couple of issues
  • My eth0 IP assignment is 192.168.1.3/24 upon arrival at desktop. This is NOT accurate and does not match my subnet. Could you have left some remnants of a static IP?

    Further, when clicking the LAN taskbar icon the pop-up reporter ONLY shows the lo feature while "ip addr" in a terminal shows both lo and eth0 features which is what is expected.
  • The keyboard and other localisations will probably be overlooked by any user not knowledgeable of Puppy. This happened today when I gave the stick for someone to test. You may want to consider FirstRUN as an opener as it will resolve some local needs for users.
  • Using FirstRUN and setting the hostname to "LivingRoom", when one goes to setup SAMBA, it has an incorrect name presented in the SSM.
  • When using the JWM config to set the bottom taskbar to hide, a message occurs that it was not carried out.
These are preliminary finds on a Pristine use of the USB stick.

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Hi ally,

Thanks once again. You move like the wind. :)

Hi gcmartin,

Thanks for your feedback. dd is deathly slow and takes twice as long as win32diskimager but that of
course is not an option for everyone. In addition the image is large at 16GB & 4 times larger than
what I normally use. With win32diskimager & a USB3 stick the time taken reduces dramatically.

Your symlink technique to mounted existing NAS is a great idea and adds to this Pup's versatility.

There do seem to be some issues with network connections in Pups created with recent versions of
WoofCE. You are correct that I did leave in this Pup, as is my habit, a static IP but in theory the
profile for the mac address of my ethernet card should have been ignored.

Much seems to depend on what route is taken to set up the connection. (Lan Icon on desktop (Puppy Network Wizard), right click
on status tray icon or the "Internet Connection Wizard" which gives access to SNS/Frisbee & Dougal's Network Wizard.

My own preference when a problem arises is to go for "Dougal's Network Wizard" which never seems to fail.

If a stick is moved between boxes or is passed to someone else the "Quickset" & "Lan" icons must be revisited.
Given that a stick is likely to be moved, the concept of "First Run" does not apply and it would be annoying to have
it pop up at every boot.

With regard to SSM that looks like a bug in SSM as it is pulling the items displayed from different places.
In the field I would suggest just matching the hostname.

With this version of JWM (vgit - 1263) you need to use radky's included "JWMDesk Manager" to enable autohide.

In conclusion this Pup is a specialist Pup intended to run as a DLNA server. It is based on a beta so there will be some
issues that I did not resolve although I did fix a few.
VLC, Chrome, Palemoon, Thunderbird, Sylpheed, SimpleScreenRecorder plus most of the utilities seem sound.
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#7 Post by gcmartin »

Hello @ETP. I understand all of your replies.

Hope this helps
FirstRUN is very important in a number of ways. Initially, working with @Shinobar, he resolved the problem of hostname, LAN, and Puppy's slightly different structure such that ALL hostname system fields were set proper when the OK button is clicked. @Barry took the work of @Shinobar and adapted it for use in WOOF, In it he worked, as well, to insure that all hostname fields in the system would be set properly when his version of FirstRUN completed on the user desktop. Recently @01Micko reported an addition to FirstRUN for WOOFCE builders. What is occurring now, in DLNA-TahrPUP64 is that since FirstRUN is avoided, its service to insure proper system field settings for hostname everywhere in the system is missed, and, of course, when it is run it is after the fact where all system fields are not matching.

You might want to consider, again, FirstRUN as an opening stanza for your PUP. I think it should resolve couple of issues/problem shown. It can be useful in many ways for your mission, I think. But, of course, other ways can be useful as well should you choose to avoid it for a beginning pristine system boot.

Just, so that you are aware, DLNA-TahrPUP's USB stick had NEVER been booted on any system at all before I hastily (trying to show its beauty to a dinner visitor) gave it to someone expecting a very smooth boot and run. I had expected a similar experience in comparison of the other PUP DLNA created. So, in doing so, I hit the remnants of the LAN problem which must be redefined so that it runs. This use to be an OOTB experience before this test.

Hope this is helpful as you craft this useful idea. It is a wonderful idea and capable of attracting many different users with various skills to the distro.

Again, I applaud this concept with the features you provide us.

gcmartin

#8 Post by gcmartin »

I found one other issue. I really like the GetJAVA addition as it is one I need and use. But, it is not working. Can I provide something to help in its diagnosis?

Suggest and I will provide.

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Hi gc,

The getjava script was written by JAMESBOND then subsequently modified for tahr64 by either him or 666philb.
"Not working" is a tad too vague. Do you mean:

Java failed to download?

The creation of the sfs failed?

The sfs was created but fails to load?

All of the above were OK but some test Java app failed to run? If so can you provide its name and a link to it?

It also occurs to me that any issue may have been resolved in tahrpup64 6.0.3.9 beta.
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#10 Post by charbaby66 »

ETP, my friend :) Greetings from chilly Canada :)

Gave this a test run on the Dell D820. Even though I thought I had the room on my NTFS (15+Gb free) no go from W7 twice! as not enough space to decompress.. went back to linux, and saved the file to an ext2 drive.. and installed to 64gb flash drive no problem, That's one big file though.

I prefer using linux over M$ to do the install. Patience is all, And Win isn't THAT much faster anyway.

Once installed, everything booted/ran well (what little I tried), but wbar covers mid-left icons. Issues connecting wifi with frisbee (scan greyed out) and barry's (associated but would not connect) got on with dougal's.
No issue in any other tahr (or slacko64/fatpup )based pup

Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection [8086:4229] (rev 61)• Kernel Driver: iwl4965

Popcorntime site back up (was down last week) worked great!

Was looking for a DLNA pup for linux-challenged brother, I would say
this is not noob-friendly enough for him to setup or get around in. Mainly
wanted to bug report issues on my box. Nice how you did all the hard partitioning work via image,. Did not use my leftover space on the 64g
flash yet but likely will make another storage partition.

Thanks for all you do.

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Hi charbaby66,
It is good to hear from you again & thanks for testing.

Icons issue:
OOTB everything is configured for 1080p so you need to shrink things down a bit.

1. In JWMDesk Manager select the "Screen font" tab and reduce it from 102 to 96 then restart X.

2. Select the "screwdriver & wrench" icon on Wbar and on the "effects" tab reduce the icon size from 54 to 48.
Also reduce the icon distance from 20 to 18 then click on reload. You might still have to move a couple of icons.

Connection issue:
I have to hold my hands up & confess that I should have paid more attention to that but was locked onto DLNA.
Dougal's utility usually gets you out of trouble but the general behaviour is less than ideal.
If running a DLNA server it should really be on a box with a wired connection to the wireless router to avoid doubling up
on your use of wireless bandwidth. (Assuming that your TV has a wireless rather than an ethernet connection to your LAN)
3. I did throw PT into the pot but do not expect it to be there for more than a couple of weeks which is why I never mentioned
it in the OP. There is also the question of its legality which varies by location.
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DLNA Tahr64 - Google Cloud Printing using Cups Cloud Print.

(Enables printing to a Google Cloud Printer from any Linux application capable of printing)

This post is for anyone who has access to one of the following:
  • Access to a shared Cloud Printer.
    Their own dedicated Google Ready Cloud Printer.
    A classic printer attached to a PC running Windows which has been setup for Google Cloud printing.
Windows is not required for the first two options.

How to set it up:

1. Make sure that you have the cups service running.

2. Download the 4 deb packages from the following folder and then click upon each in turn to install them.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_iVV ... kpPTUVSakE

3. Open a terminal, run the following command and follow the instructions.

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root# /usr/share/cloudprint-cups/setupcloudprint.py
The process will look like this:

  • Name for this user account ( eg something@gmail.com )?
    Open this URL, grant access to CUPS Cloud Print,then provide the code displayed :

    https://accounts.google.com/o/oauth2/au ... ponse_type
    =code&client_id=843805314553.apps.googleusercontent.com&access_type=offline

    Code from Google: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    You currently have these accounts configured:
    xxxxxxxxxxxx@gmail.com
    Add more accounts (Y/N)? n
    Add all Google Cloud Print printers from xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@gmail.com to CUPS (Y/N)? y
    Use a prefix for names of created printers (Y/N)? n
    Added Save_to_Google_Drive
    Added Brother_HL-2030_series
    Added 2 new printers to CUPS
    root#

Final thoughts:
Google Cloud Print Help Center
https://support.google.com/cloudprint/? ... ic=4456286

Details of core deb file
https://www.niftiestsoftware.com/cups-cloud-print/

Link for viewing & managing your printers, shares, jobs and queues. (Tip: Bookmark this link in your browser)
https://www.google.com/cloudprint/#jobs

Some screen prints are attached. The jobs queued will print out when I next turn on my printer and boot into XP.
It is not necessary to launch or log into Chrome. The printers used can be at home, work or anywhere on this planet.
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@ETP
I'm typing this from Slacko-5.7.0-pae.

1. Installed DLNA Tahr64 Pup – released 26th Nov 2015 to my 32GB Flash Drive and it boots to the desktop just fine. :D
BUT...

2. It appears to not connect to the internet! :(
How should I tell?
a. Both web-browsers fail to connect.
b. When I hover the cursor over the network icon at bottom right it says "Active interfaces: eth0" and gives details.
c. When I right-click on the network icon and choose "Setup networking", it displays only eth0, and displays a driver being used [atl1c, Atheros communications, AR8152, v2.0 Fast Ethernet][same as is being used here in Slacko], but says down below that a driver has not been loaded and I need to choose a module to load [as is said here in Slacko that obviously does connect].
Does that mean this warning is meaningless?
The "Load module" button displays a long list of stuff that's meaningless to me.
I've no idea whether I aught or which to choose.
d. I then click the eth0 button, then test eth0, and it reports success "able to find a live network", so I click "Auto DHCP", and it reports success "configuration of eth0 successful", I click "yes" to save the configuration, then "Done" to exit.
e. The above normally works for me, but not here apparently.

3. How to get connected?

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Hi Sylvander,

You are not having the best of days. The force is not with you or your house may be on a ley line. :) :)

Start by trying the "Lan" icon on the desktop. If no joy there use the
"Internet Connection Wizard" on the setup menu. On that use the bottom option - Dougal".
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#15 Post by Sylvander »

@ETP

1. SUCCESS! :D
Now connected to the internet.
Web-browsers working OK.
It was "Simple Network Setup" [SNS] that succeeded where "Network Wizard" failed.
Magic!

2. This Puppy is NICE.
Has all kinds desirable goodies.
And looks good too.
a. The "save" icon works as it aught, and so does the "Save or not save" choice at shutdown/reboot [except I'd rather "not save" was the default].
b. I notice "Menu->Puppy Event Manager->Save Session" includes an "Ask at shutdown..." tick-box that isn't ticked and yet "Ask" is pre-chosen and in effect.
Wouldn't it be logical to have a tick already in that box.
I might have unwisely ticked it, and then what?

3. Now to test my TV with this.
OUCH!
Same as werewolf64...
The photos display, but not the videos.

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#16 Post by BJF »

ETP, I have a non-booting thumbdrive version of Tahr64 that I am seeking advice on please.
The server is a Dell GL520, P4, with 2Gb RAM, and the BIOS set-up screen reports that it is 64 bit using EM64T technology.
I made up a 32Gb thumb drive following the Linux instructions and all went as described. It has partitions, the files I was told to expect, and I believe it to be The Real Deal. The server is set to boot from usb first and the front ports are active. But with the thumb drive plugged it the post screen drops on boot to black with the white cursor top left and nothing more. No drive or processor activity. Remove the thumb drive and it boots back to its LXPrecise Retro install.
Do I have an especially difficult BIOS that the distro can't resolve, or is there a way to modify something in /boot or elsewhere to make it go? Any tests to apply? Anything at all?

Thanks.
BJ.

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#17 Post by gcmartin »

Hello @BJF. Sometimes this, too, has happened to me. In the past it turned out to be a bad USB burn.

But, before doing the following paragraph, have you tried the stick in another PC that you might have?

This has worked for me on occasion,too.
In such cases, I used GPARTED to delete all of the devices partitions, and changed the devices format to GPT, followed by creating the total stick as a FAT32 partition BEFORE restarting the stick creation process.

If this does not help, post back.

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Good Morning Sylvander,

The issue is definitely with the TV as it has now failed to display videos with 2 DLNA Pups.
Let us concentrate on the TV. Whilst so doing please avoid making any further changes to the Pup or
adding anything extra so that we are dealing with a known quantity.
TV:
1. If you have any devices plugged into the TV such as USB sticks, drives or gizmos can you power off the TV, remove them and try again?

2. Is the ethernet lead from your powerline device plugged directly into your TV or does it route via some other device?

3. On the TV there should be a NETWORK INFORMATION option. Does that show that you are definitely
using ethernet rather than wireless and if so have you on the TV turned wireless off?

4. In a previous post you mentioned an old DLNA experiment that on the TV had left a media server called "puppypc:root" showing. The menu where that showed should have an option to delete all media servers (Including ETPs DLNA) and the ability to then refresh them so that only mine appears.
I suggest you try that then reboot the TV again.

5. Running out of ideas now. :) You cannot be alone in experiencing this problem so the Sony TV forums for
your particular model may have the answer.

6. How are firmware updates done on your model? (i.e. Over the airwaves or by some other means)
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#19 Post by gcmartin »

@Sylvander, is your Sony a GoogleTV or simply a smartTV? Sony makes both versions of their TVs?

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Hi BJF,

gcmartin's suggestion to try the stick on another PC is sensible as it will validate the build if it boots.

You could also try booting with the stick plugged into a port on the rear of the server.

Has that server ever booted before from any OS placed on a stick? If so which OS?

If when you boot you are not even seeing Syslinux 4.04 load the bios or USB bus/controller is not happy.
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