Quirky 1.0 feedback

[looseSCREWorTWO]

G'day all. I've got WINE working in Quirky. Downloaded Wine 1.1.39 Pet file from here (thanks green_dome ):
http://solidfiles.com/d/1095f2ac507c69c ... 1377b22f3c
http://solidfiles.com/d/8f30de0791db9d1 ... b81a58a151

Downloaded Gecko from here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/wine/fi ... b/download

Created folder /usr/share/wine/gecko and copied the gecko file in there. Opened a terminal, typed in "winefile" (without the quotes) and it worked !!! Easiest WINE installation, ever. No mucking-about with dependencies. They were all just there. If some one finds they ARE missing dependencies, they might find them in a Post by green_dome in this thread: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=398253

@rjbrewer - you're right - having that fsckme-err file is a good sign but it had me worried cos of that .err tacked onto the end of it. Thought it was an error

@rcrsn51 - you're right about the suggestive file-name

[Béèm]

The scanner is ready, so iscan isn't a solution either.

Do you have a Puppy install you could try this driver on?

Altho the scanner is working in Lucid, I could install iscan and try with it, yes.
As it is 02:00 am now, it won't be for now. Time to go to bed.

I tried in Lucid 114, with which xsane is working correctly.

Iscan did work ok also. The device detected epkowa:usb:001:003
In Xsane the device is epson2:libusb:001:003
But also the epkowa one is proposed for selection.
When I select it in Xsane, I can scan with epkowa also.

I wonder if the installation of your epkowa.tar.gz does interfere in Quirky. I didn't install it in Lucid 114, only the iscan.pet

[Sylvander]

@f00

1. "does xfe open the /tmp dir okay for you?"
Yes, it does, no sign of any problem.

2. "with text (fg) you can read"
Don't understand.
What does this mean?
What is (fg)?

3. "dead-full-black can be a troublesome choice at times for bg"
(a) Again, I don't understand, what is bg?
(b) In Lighthouse I use a black color scheme, but it isn't deep black, it sorta glows as though lit from the edges of the screen.
Looks really good.
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Quirky-100

A. I like the "doggy = Puppy" logo; has a "certain something" about it.

B. Quirky has been pretty trouble free = "just works".

C. The appearance of text etc in the Firefox-3.6 window is very good [like Lighthouse].
Struggling to make lupu-114 Firefox look as good.

D. How do I give a black background to the [lime green] CPU graph down at bottom right?

[rcrsn51]

@Béèm

This is a bit of a mystery. I know that XSane works in Quirky because it detects my HP scanner with the add-on hpaio backend. So it's odd that Lupu can detect your scanner using the built-in epson2 backend but Quirky cannot.

[Sylvander]

Just recently I've been suffering the following:

1. [The recent version = 3.6 of] Firefox has been crashing on various Puppies, including BoxPup-413, and Quirky-100, but NOT Lupu-116.
How does Lupu-116 manage to avoid the problem I wonder?
I'll need to begin taking notes methinks.

[don570]

I tested Yudit multi-language text editor (www.yudit.org) and it
worked fine. I will test now on Lucid Puppy and report back.
available at www.esnips.com/web/lupu

[Béèm]

@Béèm

This is a bit of a mystery. I know that XSane works in Quirky because it detects my HP scanner with the add-on hpaio backend. So it's odd that Lupu can detect your scanner using the built-in epson2 backend but Quirky cannot.

I wanted to start over again and uninstalled iscan and also removed the files of your epkowa.tar.gz package and rebooted.
Installed only iscan again and rebooted.
Now Xsane sees a epkowa:usb:001:003 device, but when trying to address it I get the message: can't access the device, resource busy.
Even after powering off/on the RX600 I have the same.

As for the iscan I still get that message that a command can't be sent to the device, without specifying which one. But in the light of what happens in Xsane, I suppose this msg is because the device/resource is busy.

Looks like something very basic is missing in Quirky, which is present in Lucid.

[BarryK]

Just recently I've been suffering the following:

1. [The recent version = 3.6 of] Firefox has been crashing on various Puppies, including BoxPup-413, and Quirky-100, but NOT Lupu-116.
How does Lupu-116 manage to avoid the problem I wonder?
I'll need to begin taking notes methinks.

Sqlite package needs to be updated. This will be in the next release of Quirky. You can also install my updated Sqlite PET but I haven't uploaded it yet.

[headfound]

Booted nicely on my intel i5 board (which refuses to boot ANY linux distro with a kernel older than early last year!).
Detected my video card as geforce (its ati) and actually brought up the desktop but extremely dark. I restarted xorg choosing the ati driver and all was well.

The only problem i have is that no matter how many times i specify an english GB keyboard layout, it still stays as (i guess) american with @ and " swapped.

[duke93535]

Anyone using JWM and Quirky 100 might think about compiling the newer JWM 492. This solved the no alt key + left clink drag for moving a large window.

duke

[jpeps]

...got hotkeys via jwmrc-personal working by changing openbox to jwm in /etc/windowmanger.

[Sylvander]

@BarryK
1. " You can also install my updated Sqlite PET but I haven't uploaded it yet."
(a) GREAT!
I've discovered that lupu DOES suffer from that problem too.

(b) Can that PET be used on all Puppies?
e.g. BoxPup-413, Lupu-116, Quirky-100?

[nooby]

Sylvander I use Q1 as my main OS now and Firefox never crash.

What sites does it and which circumstances?

caveat? My FF are a cheat imported from a different subdir on the HDD and replacing the .mozilla.

But it didn't crash before either and I used youtube heavily with many tabs going at same time and going back in history which did make puppy 4.00 crash in 2008?

[jpeps]

Running well on a Dell Latitude..
* samba-cups networked printer
* Firefox (no crashes)
* Skype
* Dude Desktop/pwidgets
*/etc/windowmanager/jwm (for hotkeys, etc)
* rdesktop (needed libsamplerate, libcrypto.so.0.9.8->libcrypto.so.1.0.0)

Nice!!

[Sylvander]

@nooby
1. "What sites does it and which circumstances?"
(a) It happens at random; any site, any time.
Often/usually when I then attempt to restart Firefox, that will fail...
It's necessary to reboot, which usually works [dropping to a command prompt and coming back in just doesn't do the trick].

(b) I usually have 3 windows open at the same time.
Each window normally has only 1 tab.

2. I've updated Sqlite in both BoxPup-413 [to v3.6.23.1-p4], and Quirky-100 [to v3.6.23.1-q].
Haven't yet seen Firefox crashing since doing that.
Here's where I got the Sqlite PET's.

3. Haven't yet updated Sqlite [now v3.6.22] within Lupu-116.
No more Firefox crashing seen as yet; haven't been using it much, time will tell.

4. Tally of number of crashes [after reporting, and] prior to fix/now:
BoxPup-413 = 5
Lupu-116 = 4
Quirky-100 = 0

[nooby]

SQLite Manager is a Firefox extension that can manage any SQLite database on your computer.

Sylvander, the reason it never crash here is me didn't knew what it was.

Cool that at leas Q1 survive then.

[looseSCREWorTWO]

Quirky definitely runs my Acer desktop faster and cooler. However it won't boot on my Pentium 3 Laptop. Everything looks good up to the Video Probing part, then Quirky gives me 3 options:
- Probe
- Select
- Xvesa

Which ever one I choose and whatever I do after that, the boot process "hangs" indefinitely. According to 421 Retro (which runs the PC without any problems) I have a Trident CyberBlade video card, so I re-booted into Quirky, chose the "Select" option and input "trident" but the same thing happened.

[ecube]

There is a subtle bug i gtkdialog3 which sometimes affects the execution of PartView (Free space in Drives) If you have many partitions the "All Drives" choice may result in a failure. In my experience, with 11 partitions this happens one or two times out of ten.

The error message varies, Typical specimens are

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# The program 'gtkdialog3' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadIDChoice (invalid resource ID chosen for this connection)'.
  (Details: serial 1202 error_code 14 request_code 53 minor_code 0)
   
# The program 'gtkdialog3' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)'.
  (Details: serial 1005 error_code 9 request_code 64 minor_code 0)
  

I am far too ignorant about the inner live of gtkdialog to attempt any bug exterminations. My rescue action consists of converting the PartView Perl script (pdff.pl) to the Glade format (gtkdialog3 --glade-xml=my_file.glade). The resulting version of pdff.pl is three time larger than the original file, but seems to deliver the correct output without any premature exits.

If you have many partitions, please, test the enclosed pet.

ecube

Quit signal corrected, All Drives button adjusted.

[jpeps]

Loading openoffice-3.1.1-sfs4.sfs seems to interfere with samba, resulting in an "unknown device (smb)" in the cups dropdown menu. Remove it, and samba appears again.

[`f00]

@Sylvander - re a few simple questions
fg is short for foreground (usually text) and bg is short for background. Lighter values for text show well on darker backgrounds and vice-versa, but occasionally (depending on the app and gtk rules) there may be odd mixups. Mostly it's pretty cut-and-dry on menus, window decoration and so on (depending on window manager), but 'internal' gtk may vary with very dark gtk themes.

Not sure just what you're using in LHP, but often you can simply copy a theme dir from another pup and see if it works (if dotpets are not available or compatible).

As to the background of the cpu plugin for fbpanel .. 01micko did some work on that (likely in next quirky or check his posts for a workaround). You can also set fbpanel to transparent and edit /usr/sbin/pfbpanel for more transparency (I think the default value was like 37, less is more fully transparent) or use #000000, black or navy in the proper place. Or use conky if you like a bigger graph-display and other useful sysinfo - pwidgets is another similar way if you like them or even gkrellm.

___further personal q100
Made a couple personal sfs with one of ttuuxxx's dotpets and wine, arora, opera and qtcmd working nicely - that really helped to keep the savefile small-ish Some boot-errormessages about 2fs (my upgraded savefile) that 'went away' after some re-do of the OpenWith and SendTo in Rox (not sure if it simply settled or whether it was related ).