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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Sun 25 Apr 2010, 08:12    Post subject:  

hi guys as 4.3.2 goes I figured I'll toss something out and see the reaction, it was pretty good, So I gave it a 2 weeks or so to get enough feedback so I would have a good grasp where to go with it, maybe tomorrow I'll revisit it Smile
I really just wanted to buy some time for Barry and 5 series and maybe 4.4, I'm not trying to take over 4 series, I have enough things already with my own projects, Plus I was more partial towards 2,3 series and have big hopes for 5 series, 4 series dumped gtk1.2, tcl/tk and well I always liked some gtk 1.2, tcl/tk apps better than gtk2 series, like the wallpaper setter, bubbles, gemgame. But really the wallpaper setter could probably be ported to gtk2 and added widescreen support, plus if gweled was gnome deps reduced that would cure most of issues I have with 4 series.
I don't like dark themes on jwm, Icewm handled them much better, personally I think all menu icons should be 24x24. Smile

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PostPosted: Sun 25 Apr 2010, 14:39    Post subject: Re: Menu button  

gjuhasz wrote:
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When you change the number of desktops, the "menu" button ceases to respond.


To fix it, edit .jwmrc-tray and insert this:

<TrayButton icon="/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/start-button.png">root:3</TrayButton>

In some cases, this line is there with root:0
Shall be replaced with root:3


OK, I finally got some time (sorry I had a test). Found jwmrc-tray (after looking for hidden files Embarassed ), but when I tried to edit the file I discovered that it was already correctly configured.

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PostPosted: Sun 25 Apr 2010, 18:56    Post subject:  

Hi again. I'm the lame dude that can't figure out wireless on the Dell Latitude E6500. I realized I only complained, and didn't applaud this great OS. Please let me fix that by saying thanks !!!

I got wireless to work, but only by using an external USB dongle. And another thing about that dongle is that it only works if you boot up with it in - if you try to plug it in after boot, it won't work.
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PostPosted: Sun 25 Apr 2010, 21:34    Post subject:  

@zigbert - Thanks, I have added dude-0.2 and the most recent P* programs as of Friday evening.

I highly recommend installing dude-0.2, since it will fix my oops and also for testing because it will be in the next build. I have, and it is working well... not sure if it is dependent on seamonkey though (it is a default favorite)...because

I'd really like to do a firefox build soon, since more sites work with it and it will save enough space to add a smaller browser for low end machines ....probably dillo or netsurf (however seamonkey-1.1.19 will probably be the alternative)

Not seamonkey2 because it still has many issues... instead
Firefox+Sypheed-3.x+Abiword-2.8.x+Osmo
(browser,mail,web-editor,calendar)

I had trouble with https sites in Midori, if that gets worked out it is a nice webkit based alternative to Firefox

Geany
I am surprised nobody has said anything about the change in geany's layout or the jwm "notitle" that makes geany's top bar go away (I will probably remove that part because it gets in the way of searches unless you Alt+drag the search window). It was just a little experiment with maximizing screen real estate for smaller/wide screens.... small icons only on the same line as the menu, tabs to the left, etc... It did show a bug in geany though... with tabs to the left the vertical line at position 79 (by default) is off - it may be ok on the right though?

@ kkoceski aka "DELL DUDE".... can post mymods.gz after running in a working version and a non-working version of Puppy 4.X
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lsmod >mymods
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Apr 2010, 00:51    Post subject:  

technosaurus wrote:

I'd really like to do a firefox build soon, since more sites work with it and it will save enough space to add a smaller browser for low end machines ....probably dillo or netsurf (however seamonkey-1.1.19 will probably be the alternative)


It might be nice to have FF as an optional install, since a static download is so simple. I suspect a lot of folks already use it. I like Seamonkey's web editor.
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Apr 2010, 01:12    Post subject: Broadcom wireless not found in 4.4a1  

This new version looks great; the changes in pcc look good, the pcc/desktop/trays button works; and the icons in the add icons tray seem to no longer be dropped.

But, this new version fails to find my Broadcom wireless; whereas 4.3-2 pre alpha found it immediately. For wireless this version seems to have dropped back to 4.31, which could not find the Broadcom either.

What changed?
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Apr 2010, 01:28    Post subject:  

I started with a woof build this time and missed some pets from the forum Will do some work on drivers for the next build to add more wireless drivers (In addition to adding an a full zdrv sfs) If you know of a pet for a specific driver though please post it just in case I can't find them.

I like seamonkey's editor as well... have been using it since netscape composer days back in the mid 90s, but just as an exercise I sat down to try writing a web page in abiword-2.8.2 and was pretty impressed with the results (gui only manual remaster howto). I did miss the quick browser preview capability, but it had the added benefit of being able to export to many different formats that seamonkey cannot and it has a grammar plugin and many others.

Composer is a good tool, but Abiword has come a long way since the 2.6 series where only png images were supported and now it is hard to beat for creating a quick and easy web page (even for a composer user like me, but especially for a new user). If you haven't tried it, I would suggest giving it a whirl sometime.

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Apr 2010, 01:39    Post subject:  

techno

DuDE-0.1 was (partially) dependent on SM but DuDE-0.2 is not, I tried it on lupu-111 yesterday and it seemed just fine, I made a midori menu icon too and that shows up in DuDe's favourites too.

Go for the FF build Smile

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Apr 2010, 01:46    Post subject:  

Which browser to include will always be a thorny question. It is probably the most used piece of software on a home pc right now. I guess ultimately Firefox is the way to go because it is fast becoming the industry standard, and because there are so many add-ons. I find it renders difficult sites well too.
Cant please everyone with this though Smile

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Apr 2010, 03:10    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
techno

DuDE-0.1 was (partially) dependent on SM but DuDE-0.2 is not, I tried it on lupu-111 yesterday and it seemed just fine, I made a midori menu icon too and that shows up in DuDe's favourites too.

Go for the FF build Smile

Cheers


sounds good

I built 2 versions of sylpheed one with gpg support and the other without, but I never use gpg, so can someone test it ... it looks for gpg in /usr/bin

I compiled gpg to get sylpheed to at least build, but just a minimal version - probably not really worth making into a pet but I will add it in case someone who does use gpg finds it acceptable
gpg.gz
Description 
gz

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Filename  gpg.gz 
Filesize  249.7 KB 
Downloaded  215 Time(s) 
sylpheed_gpg-3.0.2-i486.pet
Description 
pet

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Filename  sylpheed_gpg-3.0.2-i486.pet 
Filesize  523.96 KB 
Downloaded  228 Time(s) 

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Apr 2010, 03:19    Post subject:  

Why not use claws mail? The last time I compiled it came with better features/plugins than sylpheed, claws-mail-3.7.0 is the last release that doesn't use gnutils and newer release does which would add a lot more weight to the distro. Does html links open in sylpheed? Claws it works.
Also I'm 100% for Firefox as long that it scrolls smoothly, That was a issue with it and 4 series, if you went to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox and scrolled up and down there was a lot of lag. I think it was the version of Xorg.
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Apr 2010, 03:56    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
if you went to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox and scrolled up and down there was a lot of lag. I think it was the version of Xorg.
ttuuxxx


Seems to scroll just fine in 4.3.2 Firefox 3.6.3

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Apr 2010, 04:08    Post subject:  

Firefox will need dbus of course.
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Apr 2010, 04:29    Post subject:  

I compiled namarooka (FF 3.6alpha/beta codename) awhile ago, back when BK was having trouble with a bug in unionfs (4.3 beta?) without dbus and it worked fine, even when FF3.5X wouldn't work with the unionfs bug. All the Seamonkey 2X compiles I did have been without dbus, no major complaints,

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Apr 2010, 04:47    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
I compiled namarooka (FF 3.6alpha/beta codename) awhile ago, back when BK was having trouble with a bug in unionfs (4.3 beta?) without dbus and it worked fine, even when FF3.5X wouldn't work with the unionfs bug. All the Seamonkey 2X compiles I did have been without dbus, no major complaints,

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Sure, but does that then make auto-update or installation of a later version impossible without also adding dbus?

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