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Lucid Puppy 5.0.1 - 24 May 2010
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Ray MK


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PostPosted: Sat 08 May 2010, 17:27    Post subject:  
Hi everyone

Just tried lucid 116 - very nice.

Everything I normally do and use seems ok.

However it would be nice if Psync, Acpid and the temp icon could be
included (as in Quirky and Wary).

Running on my 10yr old IBM A21m laptop. P111 and 192mb ram.
Manual frugal install to ext3 on sda2.

As always - very best regards and many thanks for all you have done.

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PostPosted: Sat 08 May 2010, 17:52    Post subject:  
this -4 fix is not in 116. it is needed for some internet connections that maybe go through proxies. if it is not there quickpet just freezes.
even with that fix quickpet hasnt managed to install any pets on any connection. times out after download has started and doesnt resume..
last good version was in 114 for me if i recall correctly not 115.
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PostPosted: Sat 08 May 2010, 18:05    Post subject:  
Looks ok here on a VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 220] (rev a2)
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PostPosted: Sat 08 May 2010, 18:24    Post subject:  
playdayz, a really good job on this. Looks good and works great.

The auto screen configuration is great but would it be better in a slightly higher resolution. I guess you do have to consider the small screens on netbooks though.

I wasn't sure which browser to install because the descriptions did not provide a version number. I opted for seamonkey and was happy see it was 2.0.4.

I would recommend you upgrade to Pburn 3.2.5 as some earlier versions have the finger catching problem in the draw when it closes too fast.

Quickpet is great, I really like that concept. I know it may be difficult to implement but an enhancement for Quickpet might be to give users the ability to remove default software. For example this distro comes with 4 calculators. Many would like to remove these and replace them with galculator. It's easy to remove user installed software with the PPM but not so with default. petbegone did something like this in the past, does that still work?

Regards

Smokey

Anyway, first impressions are great.
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PostPosted: Sat 08 May 2010, 18:27    Post subject: Lucid 116 you2pup not downloading  
I never tried before, but now I wanted to download some video's from youtube and tried with you2pup, copying the url and filling in the other fields.
No video's were downloaded. I only got a small file with contents:
Code:
wget: missing URL
Usage: wget [OPTION]... [URL]...

Try `wget --help' for more options.
Seems that the URL didn't make it.
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PostPosted: Sat 08 May 2010, 18:30    Post subject:  
playdayz wrote:
We have Barry's go-ahead now to move to release of Lucid Puppy 5.0.

He suggested we use the newest xorgwizard so we will do another Beta, 117, tomorrow.


With the upgrading fixed, using /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin and globicons, /usr/local/bin/defaulttexteditor and defaultbrowser, and /root/.gtkrc-2.0 from lupusave, not from the main file? Pretty please?
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01micko


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PostPosted: Sat 08 May 2010, 18:32    Post subject:  
aarf wrote:
this -4 fix is not in 116. it is needed for some internet connections that maybe go through proxies. if it is not there quickpet just freezes.
even with that fix quickpet hasnt managed to install any pets on any connection. times out after download has started and doesnt resume..
last good version was in 114 for me if i recall correctly not 115.


aarf

I'm not sure what's going on there. There are only 3 lines in the whole script that call wget and they all have the -4 option. The main engine has not changed, The only change in 115 was the update section.
Code:
Line 96: wget -t 0 -4 -P /tmp http://puppylinux.org/wikka/LucidPuppyUpdate
Line 146: do echo "wget -S --spider -T 1 -4 $URLREPO/$GRABPET 2>/tmp/docheck" >/tmp/statcheck
Line 163: echo "eval rxvt -background lightblue -title "Quickpet" -e wget -t 0 -c -4 -P $DLDDIR $URLREPO/$GRABPET" > /tmp/quickpet-get


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PostPosted: Sat 08 May 2010, 18:48    Post subject:  
smokey01 wrote:


Quickpet is great, I really like that concept. I know it may be difficult to implement but an enhancement for Quickpet might be to give users the ability to remove default software. For example this distro comes with 4 calculators. Many would like to remove these and replace them with galculator. It's easy to remove user installed software with the PPM but not so with default. petbegone did something like this in the past, does that still work?


As far as I know, the old petbegone way to remove packages used the 0pkgs_db lists which are not used in any of the Woof builds.....basically anything after 4.21.I just checked Ibiblio and the last available is for 4.21.HTH.
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PostPosted: Sat 08 May 2010, 18:49    Post subject:  
ok, this looks a little better with the indentation on first-run...
Code:
#!/bin/sh

ICONDIR="/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons"

if [ ! -L /mnt/home ]; then

export firstrunwiz="
<window title=\"First Run Configuration\">

 <vbox>
 
  <text width-request=\"475\"><label>\"Welcome to Lucid Puppy 5.0.  The graphical desktop has been configured automatically.  Here are several tools that you can use to personalize your Puppy.  You can use the ones you want now, if any, and if you do not use them now, they are available for use later under Desktop and Setup in the Menu.\"</label></text>
 
 

   <frame Locale>
   <hbox width-request=\"500\">
    <text><label>Run Locale to set language, currency and local settings</label></text>
    <button>
     <input file>$ICONDIR/mini-font.xpm</input>
     <action>exec chooselocale &</action>
    </button>
   </hbox>
  </frame>
 <frame Timezone>
   <hbox width-request=\"500\">
    <text><label>Run the Timezone Setter</label></text>
    <button>
     <input file>$ICONDIR/mini-clock.xpm</input>
     <action>exec timezone-set &</action>
    </button>
   </hbox>
  </frame>
 <frame Date and Time>
   <hbox width-request=\"500\">
    <text><label>Run the Date and Time Setter</label></text>
    <button>
     <input file>$ICONDIR/mini-clock.xpm</input>
     <action>exec set-time-for-puppy &</action>
    </button>
   </hbox>
  </frame>
 <frame Keyboard and Video Resolution>
   <hbox width-request=\"500\">
    <text width-request=\"475\"><label>\"The Keyboard and Video Resolution Setter will allow you to choose a non-US keyboard and to select the preferred resolution for your screen display.  It will also allow you to select an alternate driver for Intel video chips.\"</label></text>
   </hbox>
    <hbox>
    <text><label>Run the Keyboard and Video Resolution Setter</label></text>
    <button>
     <input file>$ICONDIR/prompt16.xpm</input>
     <action>exec excon</action>
    </button>
   </hbox>
  </frame>
 <frame Simple Network Setup>
   <hbox width-request=\"500\">
    <text width-request=\"475\"><label>\"Puppy has several tools to connect to the Internet but this is the easiest and it works in most situations.  If you do not know that you have an unusual connection, then it will probably work for you.  If it does not, then please click the connect icon to the left on the desktop when you are ready to connect.\"</label></text>
   </hbox>
   <hbox>
    <text><label>Run the Simple Network Setup</label></text>
    <button>
     <input file>$ICONDIR/mini-telnet.xpm</input>
     <action>exec sns</action>
    </button>
   </hbox>
  </frame>
   <hbox>
    <button ok></button>
   </hbox>
 </vbox>
 
</window>"
gtkdialog3 -p firstrunwiz -c

unset firstrunwiz


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PostPosted: Sat 08 May 2010, 18:53    Post subject:  
micko my /usr/sbin/quickpet in 116 has this code which i believe is one of the show stoppers.

Code:
#check to see if we are connected to the internet
function CHECKNET(){
    wget -t 0 -o /tmp/testcon --spider www.puppylinux.com

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PostPosted: Sat 08 May 2010, 18:55    Post subject:  
aarf wrote:
micko my /usr/sbin/quickpet in 116 has this code which i believe is one of the show stoppers.

Code:
#check to see if we are connected to the internet
function CHECKNET(){
    wget -t 0 -o /tmp/testcon --spider www.puppylinux.com


thanks for heads up (note to self,, learn to count to "4")
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PostPosted: Sat 08 May 2010, 19:12    Post subject:  
Timezone GUI ONLY fix

at LINE 79 replace 60 with 75
Code:
ZONEDLG="Xdialog --stdout --title \"Puppy timezone selector\" --default-item $DEFTAG --menubox \"Please choose your timezone.\\nIf a city/region/country in your timezone is not listed, choose a GMT<number>\" 30 75 30 $ZONECHOICES"
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PostPosted: Sat 08 May 2010, 19:25    Post subject:  
playdayz wrote:
Help please. Can someone please look at /usr/local/simple-network-setup/sns and tell me how to fix this


Hmmmm... that's a nasty one... but the fix needs to come from the top Wink . It's nasty because the description is too long and there are some that are much longer, who knows what will happen then? I suspect that thew dialog can't go left any further but will cut off at the right. Making the gui wider is not going to fix it.

The best fix would be to make the descriptions shorter, but I think that list is generated, not sure.

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PostPosted: Sat 08 May 2010, 20:44    Post subject:  
Hmm, seem to remember that had something to do with global font size setting on specific computers.
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PostPosted: Sat 08 May 2010, 20:50    Post subject:  
01micko wrote:
playdayz wrote:
Help please. Can someone please look at /usr/local/simple-network-setup/sns and tell me how to fix this


Hmmmm... that's a nasty one... but the fix needs to come from the top Wink . It's nasty because the description is too long and there are some that are much longer, who knows what will happen then? I suspect that thew dialog can't go left any further but will cut off at the right. Making the gui wider is not going to fix it.

The best fix would be to make the descriptions shorter, but I think that list is generated, not sure.

Cheers


There is some code in 'sns' script that sets the width of the gtkdialog window. You could comment it out entirely. The only problem with that is there is a bug in gtkdialog, the window is too wide -- but perhaps that is better than too narrow!
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