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Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 17:25
by nooby
No fatal error but irritating for noobs that don't have english.
Difficlut to write anything if Lupu don't have the proper keyboard for that person.
So is it possible to let them chose it in a way that really retain it.
I had to write
setxkbmap se to get swedish keyb.
But it could be me messing things up. I am known to be a poor reader of instructions.
But people are used to that puppy keyboard works in puppyu431 so such could be important too?
not whining just saying
Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 17:31
by playdayz
aarf, ever played Clanbomber?
i try to steer away from things with violent connotations these days so, no i haven't. anything with rapid repeated movements is out too, RSI being cumulative in my book.
Clanbomber is that. it is a game though with bright colors and lots of noise. I hope it is not something that would have negative coronations in the U.K.
Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 17:33
by playdayz
I had to write
setxkbmap se to get swedish keyb.
Thanks Nooby. I would have thought the Swedish keyboard could have been chosen by running xorgwizard at the prompt. I will test that in 115 late tonight or tomorrow.
Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 18:12
by aarf
alt+drag of a window from anywhere within that window is critical for use on my screen. too many things depend on that ability to not have it. it is a show-stopper if not there.
Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 18:23
by playdayz
aarf, alt-drag. Have you explained how to get that? Or what's missing? Sorry if you have done it and I can't remember where it is. could you remind me please or direct me? Thanks.
Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 18:32
by playdayz
Attention knowledgeable Linux users. Is it possible to exit the window manager to a prompt *and* run a command from that prompt, such as
#wmexit xorgwizard
Thanks.
Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 18:38
by rjbrewer
playdayz wrote:Attention knowledgeable Linux users. Is it possible to exit the window manager to a prompt *and* run a command from that prompt, such as
#wmexit xorgwizard
Thanks.
Don't know about Lucid, but normally:
Menu>shutdown>exit to prompt
or
Control>alt>backspace
Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 18:48
by aarf
playdayz wrote:aarf, alt-drag. Have you explained how to get that? Or what's missing? Sorry if you have done it and I can't remember where it is. could you remind me please or direct me? Thanks.
put mouse cursor over an open window, push the alt key and simultaneously hold down the left mouse, a cross appear where the cursor is then you can drag the window. needed to see boundaries of large windows in small screens.
works in every puppy and quirky but fails in lupu 113 and 114. cant remember if 112 was ok.
Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 19:20
by nooby
playdayz wrote:I had to write
setxkbmap se to get swedish keyb.
Thanks Nooby. I would have thought the Swedish keyboard could have been chosen by running xorgwizard at the prompt. I will test that in 115 late tonight or tomorrow.
I trust that it does but I am not only the oldest noob this forum have but I am a dummie too so I often fail to do such things.
I am one of those dreaded "Out of the Box" old guys.
Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 19:38
by playdayz
smil99, It is no to ffplay in LP 5.0 I am sorry to say. It started the same run of dependencies that Openshot did yesterday. The story is that this is one of the times when LP is not designed to use the Ubuntu binaries but rather a pet of ffmpeg that Barry prepared--designed to save space and also to work. And it does work, reasonably well from my tests on gxine. Trying to mix the pet and Ubuntu files is problematical, and also replacing the pet files with ubuntu files is not straightforward. This is something that we have to just say no to because of the place in the process we are, we do not want to open any cans of worms. On the other hand, it is something we can start working on for 5.0.1/5.1. Thanks.
Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 19:40
by playdayz
I am one of those dreaded "Out of the Box" old guys.
And we wouldn't want it any other way!
Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 21:40
by playdayz
I meant to mention that the Lock program on the desktop should work.
<add> Wait. Didn't that not work in 114? Or a previous version? It works now. That was the easiest ever.
Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 21:43
by playdayz
put mouse cursor over an open window, push the alt key and simultaneously hold down the left mouse, a cross appear where the cursor is then you can drag the window. needed to see boundaries of large windows in small screens.
works in every puppy and quirky but fails in lupu 113 and 114. cant remember if 112 was OK
It was nothing I did on purpose. I guess you don't have any idea what makes it work, huh?
Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 22:58
by Béèm
playdayz wrote:put mouse cursor over an open window, push the alt key and simultaneously hold down the left mouse, a cross appear where the cursor is then you can drag the window. needed to see boundaries of large windows in small screens.
works in every puppy and quirky but fails in lupu 113 and 114. cant remember if 112 was OK
It was nothing I did on purpose. I guess you don't have any idea what makes it work, huh?
I reported this already in the
113 bug thread in wich I said I reported it already before.
This way of doing is a standard way of handling windows. I have no idea what has gone wrong.
Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 23:25
by 01micko
Béèm (and aarf)
It's a jwm thing, I rolled back to jwm-478 (earlier in this thread) and alt-drag works.
Joe has released jwm-491, we'll see if that fixes it
Cheers
jwm
Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 23:33
by upnorth
I don't know if this is it, but could be. Alt-click drag works in
491 in wary020. It might be worth a test.
Otherwise check the /root/.jwm/jwmrc-personal file where there should be:
Code: Select all
<!-- The move mode (outline or opaque) -->
<MoveMode>outline</MoveMode>
<!-- The resize mode (outline or opaque) -->
<ResizeMode>outline</ResizeMode>
491 1d 06h joewing / Go back to always grabbing the mouse on windows.
490 17d 00h joewing / Fix a bug with windows losing focus.
489 20d 19h joewing / Add locale support for the clock popup.
488 23d 01h joewing / Speed up the last fix
487 23d 01h joewing / Ungrab the mouse for the top window to work around a bug in flash.
Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 23:33
by playdayz
I reported this already in the 113 bug thread in wich I said I reported it already before.
This way of doing is a standard way of handling windows. I have no idea what has gone wrong.
01micko already has the answer. A bug in jwm 490. He has gotten 491 ready. Whew. He's superman. And I am so glad I didn't cause it
I don't mind admitting that I am pretty fried of looking through complex code and trying to make changes without causing disaster.
I learned something though in looking it up. It was originally a KDE innovation, which I guess has become fairly standard now.
Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 23:36
by playdayz
Don't know about Lucid, but normally:
Menu>shutdown>exit to prompt
or
Control>alt>backspace
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Thanks rjbrewer, I am looking for a command I could put into a shell script that would exit the window manager and run a command, xorgwizard in my case. The purpose would be to automate the process for people who have to run xorgwizard to get a correct video driver, etc.
Posted: Mon 03 May 2010, 23:44
by upnorth
exec wmexit
xorgwizard
xwin
Wouldn't something like this work?
Posted: Tue 04 May 2010, 00:01
by playdayz
Thanks upnorth, but when I try that, it exits but that's all. I am usually missing something obvious.