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Caneri

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jun 2011, 19:44    Post subject:  

That's the point Stripe...E

Have fun and enjoy !! It's the best medicine.

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun 2011, 13:24    Post subject:  

Stripe

There may be logs in your router admin setup

also have looksee if DD-WRT firmware can be run on it - very configurable Very Happy

http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/index

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nooby

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun 2011, 13:54    Post subject:  

Stripe wrote:
Hi all

My internet router just disconected itself and reset itself some 20 minutes later (had to enter my username and password). Has someone decided to monitor my internet traffic? and if so is there any way to tell?

cheers

stripe


Yes look inside if it has some log but maybe that one get deleted then?

I would google if it is possible to do such things from outside.
I have DLink and them most likely can be reset from Admin so it would mean somebody has taken over it.

Should you maybe do a hard reset of it and start all over with another password? and then be observant if something happen again?

I have a vague memory that one can look at log or even set up log to record if others try to log in. But I know too little Just now I have no power supply so I can not test anything

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jun 2011, 10:49    Post subject:  

Stripe wrote:
Hi all

My internet router just disconected itself and reset itself some 20 minutes later (had to enter my username and password). Has someone decided to monitor my internet traffic? and if so is there any way to tell?

cheers

stripe


They can do that already. Either you have nothing to worry about or a lot to worry about.

This is also the paranoia for beginners topic.

I can think along the lines of you have a lot to worry about.

I can also think along the lines you have nothing to worry about.

What is your preference?

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Stripe

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jun 2011, 12:27    Post subject:  

Hi all

Thanks for the great useful replies
Just had a look and cant find any logs on my router at all, just going to look at the manufacturers website to see if that tells me more.

according to my isp there was no interuption on my broadband/phone line. (but they would say that LOL)

@bruce
I always run under the premise that I am being monitored, and use the internet accordingly Wink

I thought with this being mainly to do with my paranoia this was the ideal thread to post in, as there is not a paranoid for intermediates/experts thread (yet) sorry if I got it wrong

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jun 2011, 12:52    Post subject:  

Stripe wrote:
@bruce
I always run under the premise that I am being monitored, and use the internet accordingly :wink:


So do I.

I'm reading today - Sarah Palin's emails are being dumped on the public? Say what?

We haven't even recovered from Congressman Anthony Weiner's stupid online behavior. Suppose he has hidden suicidal tendencies?

Do these people not know the obvious?

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PostPosted: Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:30    Post subject:  

Just when you thought it was safe to recycle your tinfoil hat, 'they' mint a new coin: Smile
http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/project-pm-leaks-dirt-romascoin-classified-in

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Jun 2011, 13:25    Post subject:  

Thanks, Lobster

That 'coin' just became the basis of my 'rant'

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=538631#538631

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Aug 2011, 21:24    Post subject:  

Guys as we know Google is taking over the world

Click on the add to Firefox option to at least ensure your browsing is
not collated, indexed, cross referenced and targeted for profiling
https://eu.ixquick.com/eng/

My security is collapsing Rolling Eyes
I started with wired Ethernet connection through a firewalled router.
Now Wii, net-books and Android phones are going through that router . . .

New roll of tin foil on order.

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Aug 2011, 03:25    Post subject:  

Net anonymity has to stop FaceBook says.

So how would that help those poor ladies that are stalked by their former Hubbies or some other person?

Quote:
Facebook's Randi Zuckerberg: Anonymity Online 'Has To Go Away'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/27/randi-zuckerberg-anonymity-online_n_910892.html
"I think anonymity on the Internet has to go away," ...said ... Randi Zuckerberg, Facebook's marketing director, .

Quote:
Erin Andrews, an ESPN anchor who had a naked video of her posted online by a stalker, joined Zuckerberg as a panelist and addressed her struggles to have the illegally-obtained video removed from the web. She became emotional at points during the conversation and described her frustration working Google and other companies that declined to pull the video from the websites hosting it.

Andrews praised Google for its “remarkable” contribution to the campaign against bullying titled "It gets better," but noted she also found it inconsistent: Google searches for her name still turn up the images and videos posted by her stalker, even as the search giant professes to be taking a stand against online harassment.

“So when does it get better? I’m confused,” said Andrews, who suggested that her situation may have been viewed differently because it involves a “woman in her 30s.” “It’s still cyberbullying. Somebody needs to step in. As a family we're always asking, what is it going to take?”


Here is another argument for to stop anonymity.
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/151024/itu_plan_to_stop_dos_attacks_could_end_net_anonymity_too.html

Quote:
Finding ways to limit DoS attacks and SMS spam by making it harder to spoof the origin of electronic communications is on the agenda at a telecommunications standards meeting next week -- but civil rights advocates worry it could put an end to anonymity on the Internet.

Making it possible to trace the origin of all Internet traffic "raises grave concerns in terms of facilitating government repression," said Jim Dempsey, vice president for public policy at the Center for Democracy and Technology. "I'm skeptical of the claimed benefits for security."

At a meeting of the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva next week, telecoms experts will discuss draft recommendation X.tb-ucr, Trace back use case and requirements, looking at ways to identify the source of packets sent across IP (Internet Protocol) networks.

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Aug 2011, 19:54    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
Net anonymity has to stop FaceBook says.


Great point nooby-- I've been continually aghast at the attitude towards the 4th Amendment of my Bill of Rights for some time. And these vile Dems who purport to represent the left are, amazingly, worse than Bush. Whistleblowers are an absolutely crucial function, and the corruptoids at the top are busy criminalizing real journalism, basically.

I used to hang out some on http://talk.hope.net, but then the Stalinist-type host of that radio show apparently deleted some months' worth of posts because he didn't like some opinions. And, the guy who was posting massive amounts of intense links almost daily, vanished.

Wikileaks is an example of an anonymity function, but Assange is creepy-- check out the site of this 1 guy who was a co-founder, but left WL in disgust:
http://cryptome.org

More good journalism on http://whowhatwhy.com .. and so many more...

definitely check these podcasts:

http://peterbcollins.com/feed/
(regularly featuring co-host Sibel Edmonds of the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition)

and
http://expertwitnessradio.org/site/?feed=podcast
(ex-DEA whistleblower and bestselling author Mike Levine's show)

in addition to the bunch I just posted to the now-contentious Now Playing thread:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=549988#549988

before the far-Right U.S. throws the internet kill switch! Shocked

And spread the word on boycotting Facebook. Pure power-trippers-- the guy wants to control the "internet I.D. card", i.e. make Facebook login mandatory to use the web. Come to think of it, I just heard a backgrounder on Fbook:
http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-718-in-your-facebook-a-virtual-panoptican/
which just added to my disgust which I felt when first disovering
http://youropenbook.org

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Aug 2011, 16:05    Post subject:  

Thanks guys, thanks cat n' mouse
Maybe you would be interested in
remote-access tool, or rat
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2011/09/operation-shady-rat-201109 Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Aug 2011, 17:21    Post subject:  

I am not logical enough to figure it all out but tell me where I go wrong Smile

1. My ISP is bound by European Union Law to keep record of everything I do for some months or years. Phone calls from which number to which number. SMS and MMS from which to which. Email from which email address to which email address.

What MAC address my computers have and what IP them gave each computer at which time and what I looked at what url I loaded and so on.

2. So anything I do to hide any of my activity would look suspicious in the eyes of the authorities. If I use another proxy or anonymity service or if I moved my computer and logged into the Library open Wifi hotspot them would get alerted that my MAC address has suddenly appeard outside their domain.

3. I would need to buy a computer that I never make use of at home and only used at open wifi spots and nothing on that computer should be related to me and my email addresses or the forums I usually attend.

Was that logical or confused thinking?

My conclusion is that only criminals have any kind of freedom them abusing law abiding citizens computers through bot nets that are too complicated to sort out due to them controlling some 10 000 to 100 000 computers at same time and having their own servers and that makes them almost beyond control? Some kind of Borg thing.

So as I get it we have no freedom at all. We are trapped in a 1984 kind of total control society .

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Aug 2011, 05:27    Post subject:  

Hi nooby,

Your anonymity on the internet is the least of your worries.
How about things like your phone calls, credit card purchases,
the books you lend from the library, the medicines you buy,
your credit record, where you eat with your family and friends?

Personally I don't give a monkey's #$% that they know that I
post on this and other forums and I may look at nude photos of women.
I'm a man so it's probably expected anyway Smile

I can't see the authorities spending time and money looking
thru logs of my internet "habits" unless of course I have something to hide in which case
I will go out and buy a laptop using cash and like you say use it only on public wifi hotspots.

Laws are made to keep the general population under control, but if you
have nefarious intentions, there are always ways round them.
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