Quirky 008 feedback
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Pwireless2 strenght indication
One more thing on the Pwireless2.
In the access point list, I miss the strength indicator as it is done in the network wizard. Is needed to choose a access point and for information.
In the access point list, I miss the strength indicator as it is done in the network wizard. Is needed to choose a access point and for information.
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Temperature indicator.
Nice idea to have the temperature displayed in the system tray under the battery loading indicator
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icon background
Icons in the menu and sys tray have a black background. Not a transparent one.
This is disturbing.
This is disturbing.
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@Béèm - nope, it's jwm (or JWM, as pointed out) - but not too terribly disturbing (in my opinion) as it only affects JWM's display of icons in those parts of the display that the wm dictates, sorry if I misunderstood your concern. Alpha values (or transparency/opacity both true and pseudo) may sometimes be interpreted differently by certain setups as well.
___firstlook___
Hello q008 (and yet another use of my personal quirky-Xorg cribsheet to get Xorg up out of its confusion.. it should be framed, perhaps). Still 'bad'alpha on jwm's display of icons screenie 9k, scaling and/or simply not correctly rendering alpha hint - afaict, not an issue for any other gui (altho inkscapelite, aka .36-pre, may show a bit of oddness/artefacts depending). I approve of the plain bg (for testing, anyway), kind of like the old 18% graycard used in photography (and my 1st shot on the roll when I use film).. No idea why leafpad seems to be 'out of favour' on some recent pups (but no biggie since it's an easy add and yah, nico' is lots more versatile).
(prepares for crash..) And now, multimedia! alsamixer looks to be usual default and leaving as-is .. trash barks when lockscreen is fed to it .. barks again when lockscreen 'deleted' (oops) .. try an audio CD .. and even with simple pCD it crashes - was doing a note on a floppy, setting up rox to openwith or sendto leafpad and keeeeeeeeeeeeeeen-bang-deadog (and not in the mood to edit xorg.conf again just to load it, altho it gets easier with repetition..).
___disc-switch upgrade from q006___
For me, this resulted in a neither fish nor fowl (but somehow basically functional) quirkypup. As a side comment, I can understand keeping/reverto Official files (sanity and more-or-less enforced consistency in testing) - for general release it would be imo a good option to have a simple method of 'personal' remastering that would keep user settings intact (for multisession livedisc). It seems always to be a jumble regarding what prefs have been reverted (actually, the switch-disc upgrade worked well - just sometimes I get confused as to what got pulled from multisession layers and what was modifications on the remaster's sfs) and a bit tedious but educational shaking down an upgrade to personal taste.
Mounting fs by driveicon on the roxpin-standard desktop is quite sluggish (not my personal pref anymore but many use it). /tmp/versioncleanup dir is a bit sparse - good, the Official libjpeg set now seems fine from the get-go However; just to pick at a scab, jwm doesn't respect or render icon transparency properly - to be sure, mostly a cosmetic flaw but still.. even a wm should get display proper or closer than this smallish anomaly indicates.
Lots to do (mostly done asof this 100309 edit) - wine survived the upgrade but the earliest and more vital (to me, anyway) apps&etc are probably on the remastered q006 sfs (ick, quirky having an issue with mounting the sfs on disc but oki on the original buildfile sfs on flash) - xfe first since rox is less solid at d'n'd for me (often rox will regard a button-release as a click and try to move what I'd intended to copy ). Trim the menu (which is probably the last thing I'll do before sessionsave) etcetc.. usw
Freememapplet shell (swallowed in jwm tray) was fine initially, disappeared from display after the save
___firstlook___
Hello q008 (and yet another use of my personal quirky-Xorg cribsheet to get Xorg up out of its confusion.. it should be framed, perhaps). Still 'bad'alpha on jwm's display of icons screenie 9k, scaling and/or simply not correctly rendering alpha hint - afaict, not an issue for any other gui (altho inkscapelite, aka .36-pre, may show a bit of oddness/artefacts depending). I approve of the plain bg (for testing, anyway), kind of like the old 18% graycard used in photography (and my 1st shot on the roll when I use film).. No idea why leafpad seems to be 'out of favour' on some recent pups (but no biggie since it's an easy add and yah, nico' is lots more versatile).
(prepares for crash..) And now, multimedia! alsamixer looks to be usual default and leaving as-is .. trash barks when lockscreen is fed to it .. barks again when lockscreen 'deleted' (oops) .. try an audio CD .. and even with simple pCD it crashes - was doing a note on a floppy, setting up rox to openwith or sendto leafpad and keeeeeeeeeeeeeeen-bang-deadog (and not in the mood to edit xorg.conf again just to load it, altho it gets easier with repetition..).
___disc-switch upgrade from q006___
For me, this resulted in a neither fish nor fowl (but somehow basically functional) quirkypup. As a side comment, I can understand keeping/reverto Official files (sanity and more-or-less enforced consistency in testing) - for general release it would be imo a good option to have a simple method of 'personal' remastering that would keep user settings intact (for multisession livedisc). It seems always to be a jumble regarding what prefs have been reverted (actually, the switch-disc upgrade worked well - just sometimes I get confused as to what got pulled from multisession layers and what was modifications on the remaster's sfs) and a bit tedious but educational shaking down an upgrade to personal taste.
Mounting fs by driveicon on the roxpin-standard desktop is quite sluggish (not my personal pref anymore but many use it). /tmp/versioncleanup dir is a bit sparse - good, the Official libjpeg set now seems fine from the get-go However; just to pick at a scab, jwm doesn't respect or render icon transparency properly - to be sure, mostly a cosmetic flaw but still.. even a wm should get display proper or closer than this smallish anomaly indicates.
Lots to do (mostly done asof this 100309 edit) - wine survived the upgrade but the earliest and more vital (to me, anyway) apps&etc are probably on the remastered q006 sfs (ick, quirky having an issue with mounting the sfs on disc but oki on the original buildfile sfs on flash) - xfe first since rox is less solid at d'n'd for me (often rox will regard a button-release as a click and try to move what I'd intended to copy ). Trim the menu (which is probably the last thing I'll do before sessionsave) etcetc.. usw
Freememapplet shell (swallowed in jwm tray) was fine initially, disappeared from display after the save
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- BarryK
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I stated in the release notes that the 2.6.33-git7 kernel is only temporary. I have not bothered to create an SFS of the source for it.8-bit wrote:Not trying to be a stickler here, but I downloaded the devx SFS file, but where do I get the patched kernel source SFS file for Quirky 8?
And was Quirky 8's kernel compiled with smp support?
It is configured for uniprocessors, because I was targeting netbooks and I had a suspicion that the smp kernel still doesn't "run right" on some uniprocessor systems.
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What do you mean by this.`f00 wrote:@Béèm - nope, it's jwm...
I know it's JWM.
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Tried to make a pet and got an error message
GUI window
Press ENTER key to bring up a GUI window that will help you to create
a database entry for the package. This will be shown in a text editor
for saving somewhere, also written to file 'pet.specs' inside the pkg.
Press ENTER:
** ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 16, near token '</default>': syntax error
aborting...
Aborted creation of PET package.
Also new network manager now has extra annoying information windows, Remember less is more
Also still have black background on menu icons, Quirky is the only puppy to this on my pc's.
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GUI window
Press ENTER key to bring up a GUI window that will help you to create
a database entry for the package. This will be shown in a text editor
for saving somewhere, also written to file 'pet.specs' inside the pkg.
Press ENTER:
** ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 16, near token '</default>': syntax error
aborting...
Aborted creation of PET package.
Also new network manager now has extra annoying information windows, Remember less is more
Also still have black background on menu icons, Quirky is the only puppy to this on my pc's.
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
gtk dialogue error 16
Hi Ttuuxxx
see thread at
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... e9f#397264
regarding the dir2pet
see thread at
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... e9f#397264
regarding the dir2pet
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Re: gtk dialogue error 16
Thanks I already fixed itupnorth wrote:Hi Ttuuxxx
see thread at
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... e9f#397264
regarding the dir2pet
I just took the dir2pet from 2.14x and replaced quirky's.
Then I copied /root/.packages/Packages-puppy-quirky-official as /root/.packages/packages.txt
and it worked perfectly, probably not the best method, but at least I can make pets without errors and only took 10 seconds to put a band-aid on
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
Running Quirky 008 from Live-CD on an Athlon XP 1800+, Biostar M7VIW mainboard, 512MB RAM.
Fast boot but keyboard (PS/2) isn't active on splash page, impossible to set options or call F2.***Edited: was my fault - the kbd plug went into the PS/2 mouse port (USB mouse here). What, after the splash page it worked regularly!!! All else valid.***
Keyboard layout is entered, but doesn't become active until set in the 'Mouse - Keyboard Wizard' dialog, which shows the previous choice already selected. After pressing OK there, the screen goes black except for about 10% of the top of the normal display, greatly enlarged. After exiting X with <Ctrl>+<Alt>+<Bcksp> and restarting X, all is back to normal and the kbd. layout works.
** I see Barry's recommended correction to /usr/bin/xorgwizard just now, maybe gets OK that way.
Wired ADSL net connection works fast and fine no matter which path.
Gnome-Mplayer seems to have no problems with any of the video formats I've tested. On full screen, however, it does enter some kind of a slo-motion effect, possibly due to CPU overload; it doesn't lose a frame, however, and the sound is repeated at abt. 0,3 seconds chops without losing sync - never seen before, funny...
AbiWord seems quite stable, no odd behavior with symbols, and all TrueType fonts work regularly as before; is also way faster and better at inserting pictures in pages, which was a pain in the back up to now. Maybe the best AbiWord in years! Haven't yet tried printing.
No <Insert> key crash with SeaMonkey... Ahhh.
More testing going on, anyway IMHO it's already an incredibly wonderful Quirk. One thousand thanks Barry!
Fast boot but keyboard (PS/2) isn't active on splash page, impossible to set options or call F2.***Edited: was my fault - the kbd plug went into the PS/2 mouse port (USB mouse here). What, after the splash page it worked regularly!!! All else valid.***
Keyboard layout is entered, but doesn't become active until set in the 'Mouse - Keyboard Wizard' dialog, which shows the previous choice already selected. After pressing OK there, the screen goes black except for about 10% of the top of the normal display, greatly enlarged. After exiting X with <Ctrl>+<Alt>+<Bcksp> and restarting X, all is back to normal and the kbd. layout works.
** I see Barry's recommended correction to /usr/bin/xorgwizard just now, maybe gets OK that way.
Wired ADSL net connection works fast and fine no matter which path.
Gnome-Mplayer seems to have no problems with any of the video formats I've tested. On full screen, however, it does enter some kind of a slo-motion effect, possibly due to CPU overload; it doesn't lose a frame, however, and the sound is repeated at abt. 0,3 seconds chops without losing sync - never seen before, funny...
AbiWord seems quite stable, no odd behavior with symbols, and all TrueType fonts work regularly as before; is also way faster and better at inserting pictures in pages, which was a pain in the back up to now. Maybe the best AbiWord in years! Haven't yet tried printing.
No <Insert> key crash with SeaMonkey... Ahhh.
More testing going on, anyway IMHO it's already an incredibly wonderful Quirk. One thousand thanks Barry!
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Quirky008 has been the first which supports backlight brightness since Puppy 4.3.1 retro in my acer laptop !!!
Newer kernel maybe has done the trick.
Thanks. This is really great news.
Pwireless2 worked after /etc/init.d/Pwireless2 from console.
Touchpad short movements was fixed editing xorg.conf:
and finnish characters worked by changing "fi" to xorg.conf.
ATI radeon driver was configured automatically also.
Newer kernel maybe has done the trick.
Thanks. This is really great news.
Pwireless2 worked after /etc/init.d/Pwireless2 from console.
Touchpad short movements was fixed editing xorg.conf:
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Option "MinSpeed" "0.30"
Option "MaxSpeed" "0.90"
Option "AccelFactor" "0.0090"
ATI radeon driver was configured automatically also.
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Only Puppy with sound in flashplayer ! (None in 412, 431, 432, dpup, Bruno, 214X, upup ...)
SB PCI 128/Ensoniq 1370, for which sound otherwise works.
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SB PCI 128/Ensoniq 1370, for which sound otherwise works.
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MHHP
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Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
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Quirky-008 using live-cd
Acer laptop "tm-4602LMi"
cpu-freq scaling chooses the correct values and they are correctly entered into the min max box.
However, when I close the lid, the cpu hibernates/suspends but it won't wake up completely.
Hit any key, it tries to wake-up, (screen, drive and fan) then falls back to sleep. Only way out is to power-off
Acer laptop "tm-4602LMi"
cpu-freq scaling chooses the correct values and they are correctly entered into the min max box.
However, when I close the lid, the cpu hibernates/suspends but it won't wake up completely.
Hit any key, it tries to wake-up, (screen, drive and fan) then falls back to sleep. Only way out is to power-off
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This morning I took short .ASF and .mov movies
and they played OK (not automatically) when I dragged them into xine
This may be the new Radeon card or the upgrades in Quirky.
Also used Menu / System / pdisk to great effect
deleting some minor, non-Puppy Linux known as Ubuntu
(be careful noobs
- this is low level partitioning . . .)
Yesterday I watched a streaming movie from the BBC website
- basically I have been using Quirky 008 as my OS
I only use an OS (at this stage) as long as it does what I want
So far so good - several days now
and they played OK (not automatically) when I dragged them into xine
This may be the new Radeon card or the upgrades in Quirky.
Also used Menu / System / pdisk to great effect
deleting some minor, non-Puppy Linux known as Ubuntu
(be careful noobs
- this is low level partitioning . . .)
Yesterday I watched a streaming movie from the BBC website
- basically I have been using Quirky 008 as my OS
I only use an OS (at this stage) as long as it does what I want
So far so good - several days now
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pakt sent me a pm about that:LoneRifle wrote:Reporting everything working well on the Edubook. However, noticed that drivers for my wireless card don't support WPA. Is there a guide to replacing the drivers with ones that do support it? Thanks.
Indeed, sound and wireless work. I have the Realtek 8188S adapter which works with the r8192s_usb module. It didn't show up in Pwireless but did in Dougal's wizard and works with WPA2 in spite of being warned by the wizard that it wouldn't.
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