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OverDrive · Posted: Wed 24 Mar 2010, 21:02 Post subject:

Update: I discovered Barry compiled the lib files. Thanks Barry!!
He mentioned it in his blog and that it might have some quirks so be sure and read before using. For me so far, It is worth it.

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01180

If you find it is not worth it, you can always unwind it be removing
them through Puppy Package Manager.

OverDrive

Makoto · Posted: Wed 24 Mar 2010, 23:08 Post subject:

I have to admit, I'm a little wary of installing updates for GTK and glib (but mostly because I think someone said on these forums that attempting to update glib could break practically everything... don't know if that's true, or not, but I am paranoid. Very Happy

)

Just curious, I suppose - what version of GTK is included in Puppy 4.3.1?

OverDrive · Posted: Wed 24 Mar 2010, 23:41 Post subject:

I think it is 2.14-7

My research indicates you have get past that before the new GTKFileChooser patch was available. If you could find something in 2.16, I think they should be in there. Then you will be a little back from the "bleeding edge". Be sure and update glib also.

FWIW, I'm OK with 2.18 so far.

You can always remove it via Puppy Package Manager...

OverDrive

OverDrive · Posted: Thu 25 Mar 2010, 00:10 Post subject:

I found out Barry found a fix to the Rox-Filer bug in the previous blog post at http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01389

At this point I have say it pays to keep up with his blog.... Embarassed

He shows some text to paste into /etc/profile

On further reading down the comments section it was discussed editing /usr/local/bin/rox instead from

#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/apps/ROX-Filer/AppRun "$@"

to

#!/bin/sh
export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=true
exec /usr/local/apps/ROX-Filer/AppRun "$@"

FWIW, I tried this and it works.

OverDrive

DaveS · Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 3669 Location: UK

Not sure about this one, but I seemed to notice some strange behavior in Rox, with files not de-selecting as they should. I vaguely remember reading another thread about this behavior somewhere, but I cant find it now. Also having trouble reproducing the issue. Will experiment further.................
BTW, Open Office is fine with it.

OverDrive · Posted: Thu 25 Mar 2010, 11:01 Post subject:

DaveS,

Yes, There is a fairly simple patch for that in my post above yours.

Dingo,

Great! Let me know if you *do* find anything funky. So far I'm OK with everything...

OverDrive

Dingo · Posted: Thu 25 Mar 2010, 12:39 Post subject:

More tries made today, My opinion is now to stay away from installing

ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-4/gtk+-2.18.3-p4.pet
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-4/glib-2.22.2-p4.pet

It's happened that Seamonkey windows redraws itself causing a little flicker

Barry has reported same problem using GTK 2.18

DaveS · Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 3669 Location: UK

OverDrive · Posted: Thu 25 Mar 2010, 22:42 Post subject:

DaveS Glad to hear!

Dingo, FWIW My wife and I have been using SeaMonkey all evening and we havn't seen this flashing as of yet.

Just a theory here, Maybe It is hardware specific. I have a Compaq with an Intel X3100 Graphics chipset and my wife has a Toshiba with a ATI Radeon Xpress 200M . These were cheapo bottom of the line units bought quite a few years ago.

Maybe we can see what you and Barry have and see if there is a pattern there.

DaveS have you seen any flashing in SeaMonkey? What hardware do you have?

Anyone else, feel free to chime in also...

OverDrive

Dingo · Posted: Fri 26 Mar 2010, 08:43 Post subject:

in my case I experienced a similar (but not he same problem) Barry has reported.

He spoken of: big flicker, while my seamonkey window flicker was little, but a bit annoying

My Hardware is:

mainboard: ASUS CUV 4X-VM
ram: KINGSTON, - 655 MB total
NVIDIA GFORCE 5550

OverDrive · Posted: Sat 27 Mar 2010, 17:51 Post subject:

Dingo, When you say flicker is it a white flash or more like a Ctrl +R screen refresh?

If anybody has tried this, Can you please report your findings....

OverDrive

Dingo · Posted: Sat 27 Mar 2010, 18:54 Post subject:

the flicker is little but annoying; it is like a sudden redrawing of program window (like a flash)

it happens any time I start Seamonkey, if I open a link in a new window instead in a new tab, TA-DA!!! the return of screen flicker part 2 (the revenge) Cool

, or, if I open another seamonkey Window, I can see the part three of this strange movie: The screen flicker part 3, (the flicker strikes again!)

Additionally, I have annoying de-selection problems. it seems Barry predictions about rox-filer selections are true with GTK 2.18.xx, so, I Fear we must think another way to solve off-center problem

OverDrive · Posted: Sun 28 Mar 2010, 16:02 Post subject:

Dingo · Posted: Sun 28 Mar 2010, 16:09 Post subject:

OverDrive · Posted: Sun 28 Mar 2010, 17:09 Post subject:

Also, Don't try ubuntu's 2.16

I just tried it and it blew up the desktop also.

But I did learn something new. When you remove a upgrade package puppy copies a copy from RO to RW in initrd. Kind of wastefull but now that I know it happens I'll be able to monitor it and keep it under control. And usually you don't downgrade from a upgrade.

The more you bang on puppy the more you learn!!

OverDrive