Puppy Linux Virtual Machine Files

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DC
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#31 Post by DC »

my limited knowledge reply

VM - Virtual machine i.e. a virtual PC

in my case allows you to run puppy in a VM running in windows XP
I've had puppy 2.13 running ok.
I just used it for playing with while I have to be in windows (work programmes :cry: ).
I boot back to harddrive puppy as soon as I don't need windows!

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vm

#32 Post by cruzin »

Ok, I think I understand, but if your in xp and have puppy running, does that not still allow others to peer into the back doors of xp? its got holes ya know.

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#33 Post by DC »

as for XP having holes - speak to bill
For XP I've have a router with hardware firewall, Zonealarm software firewall - to protect me from the kids downloads, AVG anti-virus.

and Puppy don't need any of the above.

And I don't know if XP problems could effect a VM running puppy.
but its a iso anyway so no worries :D

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#34 Post by lvds »

Hi,

I have followed install procedure and got pizzapup running fine in vmware with speed ! Though i have two problems i hope someone may help to solve:
1. i cannot see/mount hard drives (fat or ntfs) nor cdrom drive
2. network is not working because it gives an error messages stating it is yet in use...

Can someone help ?

Best regards

MustardMan

Windoze on Linux?

#35 Post by MustardMan »

All the discussion so far seems to be about using VMware to allow Puppy to run under windoze.

However, I would like to run windoze under linux (with a strong preference for puppy).

VMware will run under Linux, but has someone tried this under Puppy, or even :D created a dotpup for it?

MM

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Re: Windoze on Linux?

#36 Post by cacarr »

MustardMan wrote:
VMware will run under Linux, but has someone tried this under Puppy, or even :D created a dotpup for it?

MM
That would be very cool.

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#37 Post by wow »

Puppy-1.09CE, Metisse, xfce, VMware server running Win98(in spanish with MacOS Aqua theme for AstonShell):
Image

Puppy baremetal for VMware Server - Mostly SOLVED
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 79&t=10505

Search in the forum for more info.
[url=http://www.puppylinux.com][img]http://i.imgur.com/M4OyHe1.gif[/img][/url]

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VMWare and DirectX

#38 Post by virtualbox »

Hi there.

Has anybody managed to get VMWare's support for direct3d/direct rendering running in either desktop or player?

Will it support the Nvidia440mx in direct 3d mode?

The support docs he say yes,yes,yes.
The computer she say NO NO NO!

Prism 2.17.1
Geforce440
WINXP/SBS2003 guests.

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#39 Post by reborn »

I tried the direct3d support and had no luck. I installed Vista as the guest with XP Pro as the host & the direct3d support, the Vista games wouldn't load the graphics. Conversely I installed Vista as a guest with no direct3d support and the Vista games played, albeit a little slower and a warning message about no 3d acceleration. 3d support in VMWare is still experimental, as is Vista support but I've been running it with no problems, windows updates, firewall & antivirus installed and playing with Google Chrome web browser on it.

Installing the VMWare tools is a must, for various enhancements not least of which is being able to select your native screen resolution. I run all mine full screen, minimise it to get to desktop if needed.

Have a look at this site http://easyvmx.com/ - it creates the files needed to run other OS's for VMWare Player, unless you purchase VMWare Workstation - then you can do it yourself. It creates the virtual hard drive et al, and is only a few kb download. You can also setup a shared folder, which I've found very useful.

My virtual machines to date are: Vista Ultimate, Fedora 8 Gamer (I've got no games on XP Pro - by design), Linux Mint 5 rc1, Dreamlinux and others I've deleted - no uninstall, just delete the folder.
I will be trying Puppy in VMWare, but I don't think it'll beat frugal install - unless you're trying development releases of course.

Anyone wanting any help with VMware - I'll try to help, but it will not be Puppy related until I've tried it myself.

reborn

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#40 Post by Aitch »


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#41 Post by reborn »

Thanks for that Aitch, that's for VMWare Fusion for the Mac. But that led me to do a little more investigating and came up with this:

http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/ ... ng_vm.html

This one says its only for Windows 2000 or XP, which is probably why it didn't work for me in Vista. I'll have to 'install' XP and give it a try! Then wait for better Vista 3D support .

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#42 Post by Aitch »

Yes, I realised it was fuzion, but thought there might be links on the videos link, obviously you didn't find one

I did!! pretty old but still there, may work with later puppys, see DC's earlier comment about meanpup

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=5222

dead links?

http://www.geocities.com/larrylean99/st ... sense.html

try it & post results, please

I'm sure I've seen a more recent thread, but can't find it

aha -scrub that [though I thought it was fairly recent?]

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=15460

Good Luck!

PS for those interested puppy4VM under windoze howto, here

http://www.lowtek.ca/roo/2008/puppy-lin ... re-player/

may need tweaking if you want 3D accel, though VMtools is the way to go AFAIK [may need to 'borrow' them (Open Source, so why not?) from a VMserver d/l as it's pay up time, if not]

Aitch :)

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#43 Post by reborn »

Youtube, Geocities & many other sites are banned here in Turkey. I know I can use sites like Vtunnel & Stopmenot Proxies to access them but I get fed up having to use them so have got lazy and just avoid the banned sites. Yesterday I was trying to access the shoutcast site for a listing of radio stations and even that's blocked!

AS far as I can tell, although the VMTools are very useful, they don't have anything to do with the 3D optimization - the site I mentioned in my last post shows instructions to edit the .vmx file with some settings to enable 3D acceleration. Unless, of course, I'm missing something.

Still I'll try following the instructions I've got and see how I get on, as soon as I can.

Reborn.

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#44 Post by Aitch »

AS far as I can tell, although the VMTools are very useful, they don't have anything to do with the 3D optimization
on the contrary, AFAIK, though this is the origin of it, & may be updated later on...(other links on this page)

http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/ ... d_d3d.html

also

http://communities.vmware.com/message/3 ... B1FB4EF7D9

more useful links

http://swik.net/vmware+virtualization?popular

Aitch :)

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#45 Post by reborn »

Sorry, I didn't explain very well. Yes you need VMWare tools installed, which I have, but you have to manually insert the settings for the 'experimental' 3D acceleration.

I've had a go with a virtual XP Pro, but no luck so far. I'm going to have to play around with this a bit more.

Anyway thanks for your input, I've had a look at the links and will study the details in more depth.

reborn

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Thread on:VMware Player 2.5.0 with Puppy and 2.6.21.7 kernel

#46 Post by DanYHKim »

In case anyone comes to this thread looking for info on using Puppy as host for VMware guest machines, I'd recommend going to:

WMware VMplayer 2.5.0

WolfPup has an excellent .sfs for VMware Player 2.5.0 with modules compiled for kernel 2.6.21.7. If you are using the new Puppy 4.1.2 (k2.6.25.16), you need to have the devx_412.sfs and <kernel_source>.sfs loaded so it can compile appropriate modules.

[ignorance alert! I think this is what the process is called. It's at least somewhat close.]

I have installed Puppy 4.1.2 on a Dell Inspiron 1525 as "frugal" install. After having it load the development tools and the VMware Player 2.5.0 .sfs file, ran VMware player. It then rebuilt the modules and ran just fine. Loaded a Windows XP virtual machine that resides in a separate NTFS partition.

** Problems occur when loading a VM that lives in an NTFS partition using a Linux host. **

There are some modifications to VMware Player's "conf" file, or to the guest machine's .vmx file before it will work. This is described in an entry to the thread, though.

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Puppy boot sequence changed?

#47 Post by ilanrab »

Running Puppy 520 on a 16GB flash drive that has 2 ext3 partitions. One parittion for the system (2GB) and one for the save files (in a directory /puppy520). Running on a Dell Latitude D400 laptop, with 1GB RAM.

From the day that 520 was release, until last night, booting the flash drive always brought up the comforting puppy logo and the "boot:" command prompt.
Last night I installed, from the SFSget area of the PPM , the VirtualBox application. I used the SFS file, of course. Everything installed fine and ran fine. I was able to run Windows-XP in the VirtualBox environment.
The VirtualBox HardDisks are also located on that 2nd flash drive partition, in a separate folder (not the /puppy520/ folder).

Next time I booted the flash drive I noticed that the puppy logo and "boot:" command prompt were being skipped. Everything else is booting fine. Just that boot sequence is a bit different.

Then I copied the puppy save file from this strange flash drive to another 16GB flash drive's 2nd partition and booted that flash drive, using the save file I had just copied over. Same issue came up (the logo and command prompt gone).
Has anyone experienced this type of a behavior? Obviously the save file, that has the virtualbox installed on it, is having an effect on the boot sequence (for some reason).

Any ideas what is going on?

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#48 Post by fenex2004 »

Hey ilanrab,

I'm trying to get XP running on 5.2 as well and am haveing a hard time finding anything that works.

VMware - d/l the tar from the VM site, installed but would not run - says im missing GCC 4.3.4. Found that, d.l it, it would not un-tar, just kept hang in "reading file" mode. Should I try d/l the 4.0 version and use the 4.0.4 as an upgrade? any ideas?

Just got the VirtualBox d/l from here.
So far it seems to be working well. OOOpps spoke too soon - system locked up and al I have is a black screen...anyone know why? gonna reboot and try again.

Thanks for the assistance in advance.

UPDATE: Kept searching and found 'TheAsterik's' post on the virtualbox. Downloaded it, installed it, and after fussing with the personal save file a few times :x got it up and running (gawd M$ loads so slow) Got my program installed and running - it's slow due to the amount of ram - VB needs quite a few MB and I gots very little. :oops:

Anywho, I got that problem solved - time to move to another :wink:

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#49 Post by ilanrab »

fenex2004 wrote:Hey ilanrab,

UPDATE: Kept searching and found 'TheAsterik's' post on the virtualbox. Downloaded it, installed it, and after fussing with the personal save file a few times :x got it up and running (gawd M$ loads so slow) Got my program installed and running - it's slow due to the amount of ram - VB needs quite a few M....
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The same version works for me, as well.
All of these virtual machines devour both memory and disk space. That's the tradeoff. Functionality is increased at the expense of drive space, memory, and speed.
Cheers,
ir
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does Puppy slow down?

#50 Post by Frank Cox »

I am running on a Dell 530 with the 2.4 gig dual core processor and 2 gigs of ram . Will this make puppy slow or just XP?
Will Xp be painfully slow? Should I configure it with Nlite and remove all the garbage from Xp i will never use anyway?. They make a tiny version of Xp that is on Hiren's boot disk, I am going to find out what all it allows. All I need it for is a few programs live Quicken and IE for certain test that will not work on anything else .

TIA

TIA

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