Preparing for Puppy II

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Ted Dog · #31 Post by **Ted Dog** » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 05:28

drongo wrote:spell it NewtrIX to make it sound more UNIXy (is that a new word?)

Sounds real good to me, but it reminds me of something..... hemmmmm.

Lobster · #32 Post by **Lobster** » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 07:12

Now you know why Puppy ran so fast - someone tried to "Neutrix" him

Billwho? · #33 Post by **Billwho?** » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 08:50

softgun wrote:PupTy "puppy to you" and "to" has the SOUND of "two"

Not bad. How about

PuppyTooU

We could even use something similar for Puupy 4, if Barry gets that carried away!!. (PuppyForeU)

Gives the added meaning of being at the front.(right where Puppy is in my book)

Lobster · #34 Post by **Lobster** » Tue 17 Jan 2006, 09:54

I'm trying to get Puppy2 away from needing any menu (and subsequent pause) at bootup. Puppy2 tackles the problem the other way round, by booting up in ramdisk-only the first time you boot on a PC, then at shutdown you are asked if you want to create a personal storage file. If you anser yes, it will get created and automatically used next time you boot Puppy.
Yeah, simple, and it's working.

Brilliant.
I was never 100% happy with the boot menu adding valuable seconds on the Puppy Boot time - so this is good news

Expect a pre-alpha of Puppy Pitto (P2) soon - next few days hopefully

(check 17 June News)
http://www.goosee.com/puppy/news.htm

Note, I'm writing a "universal installer", a sneak preview will be available with the next pre-alpha release.

kirk · #35 Post by **kirk** » Tue 17 Jan 2006, 16:57

I'm trying to get Puppy2 away from needing any menu (and subsequent pause) at bootup. Puppy2 tackles the problem the other way round, by booting up in ramdisk-only the first time you boot on a PC, then at shutdown you are asked if you want to create a personal storage file. If you anser yes, it will get created and automatically used next time you boot Puppy.
Yeah, simple, and it's working.

I think this would be better for new users, but I might miss the old boot menue.
Somtimes its nice to boot to ram only or to choose the harddrive partition / pupxxx file so that you can test somthing with a clean pupxxx.
Can we have it both ways? Maybe 3 seconds to hit a key and bring up the old boot menue? Or hold down a key while booting to bring up a menue?

BarryK · #36 Post by **BarryK** » Tue 17 Jan 2006, 23:52

kirk wrote:
I'm trying to get Puppy2 away from needing any menu (and subsequent pause) at bootup. Puppy2 tackles the problem the other way round, by booting up in ramdisk-only the first time you boot on a PC, then at shutdown you are asked if you want to create a personal storage file. If you anser yes, it will get created and automatically used next time you boot Puppy.
Yeah, simple, and it's working.

I think this would be better for new users, but I might miss the old boot menue.
Somtimes its nice to boot to ram only or to choose the harddrive partition / pupxxx file so that you can test somthing with a clean pupxxx.
Can we have it both ways? Maybe 3 seconds to hit a key and bring up the old boot menue? Or hold down a key while booting to bring up a menue?

You will still be able to have it both ways.

By the way, we will have to get used not to calling it a "pupxxx" file, as pup2 names the personal storage file "pup_save.3fs" -- a fixed name, no numbers in it.

Anyway, if you just rename pup_save.3fs to something else, then reboot, Puppy won't be able to find it, so will think you are doing a first-boot and will come up in RAM only.

Ted Dog · #37 Post by **Ted Dog** » Wed 18 Jan 2006, 00:17

After some googling I found the default loopback number around 8 for 2.4 series and I think 256 for 2.6 series. I would like to experiment with more squashes could you upgrade to ~250 loopbacks in the new kernel for one of the next beta releases Puppy2.
Thanks

kirk · #38 Post by **kirk** » Wed 18 Jan 2006, 02:03

Anyway, if you just rename pup_save.3fs to something else, then reboot, Puppy won't be able to find it, so will think you are doing a first-boot and will come up in RAM only.

Thanks Barry, I should have been able to figure that out!

With a fully R/W file system that you can compile in, I would think that schools would like Puppy. If you're learning to program and you screw something up on the system, you can just delete the pup_save.3fs and reboot. It's been a great learning tool for me to learn some Bash. I haven't used unix since SCO in 88'. I took a class in C many years ago (and forgot most of it) and had to pay about $80 for a compiler/developer tools kit. Free seems like a better price.

Thanks again for the great distro!

PoiemaMan · #39 Post by **PoiemaMan** » Wed 18 Jan 2006, 20:50

As mentioned earlier, I also like Puppy2 - Greyhound. It suggests lean and fast. And it has a fun side but also sounds professional. Just my 2 cents.

Lobster · #40 Post by **Lobster** » Fri 20 Jan 2006, 04:48

PupSafe for Pup2 announced (check 19 Jan 2006 News)
"Ah, but Puppy has PupSafe!"

http://www.puppylinux.com/news.htm

GuestToo · #41 Post by **GuestToo** » Fri 20 Jan 2006, 05:39

sometime ago I came across a program that was able to monitor any directory and report if any file anywhere in that directory was modified

http://fileschanged.sourceforge.net/ ?
uses http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/

based on dnotify? inotify?

how big is something like tripwire?

Lobster · #42 Post by **Lobster** » Tue 31 Jan 2006, 11:25

Dan has very kindly sent me a key drive to test Puppy2
- thanks Dan

It has 128 meg (the min) and comes with Puppy pre-pre alpha installed
- I know that because I am looking at the contents with MUT

My current computer can not boot from USB but I have access from one that can . . .

I do not seem able to boot . . .
Tried the usual BIOS settings - turned off everything except USB booting (it is recognizing the device)

I have a strange idea what it may be - gonna test that now - but open to suggestions?

I need Puppy2 - I need it NOW!

. . . normal ranting is now resumed

Any ideas?

Ding_notlogged · #43 Post by **Ding_notlogged** » Wed 01 Feb 2006, 08:17

It was driving me crazy too and searched the web for any hint and found this site:

[quote]
Check your BIOS
Finally, you need to enable booting from a USB device in your computer

Lobster · #44 Post by **Lobster** » Wed 01 Feb 2006, 08:32

Do not despair young penguin Jedi
"there is another . . ."

I came across a floppy boot your USB thingee - type ojeemaflick
(not sure what it is yet - will try getting this to recognise the USB port)

May the Tux be with you

WKPUP11C.ZIP

will report back . . .

Dingo_what · #45 Post by **Dingo_what** » Wed 01 Feb 2006, 14:39

Lobster wrote:Do not despair young penguin Jedi
"there is another . . ."

I came across a floppy boot your USB thingee - type ojeemaflick
(not sure what it is yet - will try getting this to recognise the USB port)

May the Tux be with you

WKPUP11C.ZIP

will report back . . .

can you please send me some of that medication you are on

@least you have FDD ,i have no FD or cd burner...............time to save some money for a new computer or maybe i will wait till they come up with futuristic computer that has no fdd,no hdd no cd or even the need for kb or mouse.just LCD touch screen and ports and it run whatever you want from usb.
oh wait,its already out there,where did i plant that money tree

i will wait for Puppy Matrix[/i] (sugesstion for new name),i already have the right wallpaper for it:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/overlord59/img/ ... matrix.jpg.

don't you just hated when pepole go off track

sorry folks.
and now back to the original discussion already in progress.......

Lobster · #46 Post by **Lobster** » Wed 01 Feb 2006, 15:48

can you please send me some of that medication you are on

First you will need this certificate
http://peace.wikicities.com/images/0/01/Certify2.jpg

Then go here and think of rainbows
http://www.zen45800.zen.co.uk/puppy6/

My team of interdimensional trained astral dolphin psychiatrists
will soon turn up with the required formula . . .
Using the medication I was able to remember the password to my blogg . . .
http://chronologyprotectionagency.blogspot.com/

Guest · #47 Post by **Guest** » Thu 02 Feb 2006, 14:56

would you accept a Ferengi among you

btw don't let any of your ""Brothers in faith"" know U reverting from islam or your head will fly.
isn't ironic that ""they"" like\admire klingons ...........maybe because they have so much in common ...........

oops

Lobster · #48 Post by **Lobster** » Thu 02 Feb 2006, 15:19

I have already lost my head:

I have declared on separate occasions to be the Koran, Mohamad and Allah - this was during Ramadan - so far I seem to be OK - I tend to hang out with Ishmailis and Sufis - who are all bonkers . . . for example in about 1910 the then Agha Khan said that if one had only the money to educate a daughter and a son, the daughter should be educated - to redress the societal imbalance. No wonder they are a persecuted minority sect . . .
Personally this is too advanced for me and I prefer the Ferengi attitude to women . . .

. . . and now back to Puppy - an alpha release for 10/11 Feb - only a week away. I am panting and straining at the leash already . . .

meanwhile here is music for all of you who have been working like a dog . . .
http://franklarosa.com/vinyl/Audio/Mill ... ysNight.rm
From the incredible talent known as "Mrs Miller"
http://franklarosa.com/vinyl/Exhibit.jsp?AlbumID=77
and if you enjoyed that try the old beatle classic sung by dogs
http://franklarosa.com/vinyl/Audio/Barkers_LoveMeDo.rm

guest10000 · #49 Post by **guest10000** » Thu 02 Feb 2006, 16:25

So, there is a lot of hype about puppy-2.0 Does that mean we are skipping 1.0.8 & 1.0.9

Thought I'd ask, since there has been no talk of it.

costal martignier · #50 Post by **costal martignier** » Thu 02 Feb 2006, 16:47

hmmm, i hope not...

with the linux kernel it's the same, there 2.2 2.4 are mainained continously altough 2.6 is there allready...

i like to see that puppy's 1.X series will maintained further...

but first let's see how compatible 2.0 is with 1.X, i think this is the point of success for puppy 2.0...

regards
costal

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Preparing for Puppy II

Me like this idea

universal installer

adding more loopbacks to kernel, Please

Puppy2 name.....

booting from USB

Wakepup

Re: Wakepup

Rainbow prescription

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