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shinobar


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PostPosted: Sat 13 Nov 2010, 07:53    Post subject: Dual Windows  
menu.lst:
Quote:
# Windows

title Windows Vista/2008/7\nBoot up Windows Vista/2008/7 if installed
map (hd1) (hd0)
map (hd0) (hd1)
map --hook
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /bootmgr
chainloader /bootmgr

Add new entry:
Quote:
title Windows 7 on /dev/sda2\nBoot up Windows Vista/2008/7 if installed
map (hd1) (hd0)
map (hd0) (hd1)
map --hook
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
chainloader /bootmgr


EDIT:
For Windows NT/2000/2003/Xp, 'ntldr' insyead of 'bootmgr':
Quote:
title Windows NT/2000/2003/Xp on /dev/sda2
map (hd1) (hd0)
map (hd0) (hd1)
map --hook
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
chainloader /ntldr

Or, simply:
Quote:
title Windows on /dev/sda2
map (hd1) (hd0)
map (hd0) (hd1)
map --hook
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
chainloader +1

The 'map' lines are for USB devices. As for the internal HDD, simply:
Quote:
title Windows on /dev/sda2
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
chainloader +1
Note (hd0,1) can be other numbers.
Using grub4dosconfig v1.6.1 and later automatically makes these multiple Windows entries.
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Nov 2010, 08:21    Post subject:  
Shinobar, you made my day. That worked flawlessly. I booted using the usb mem stick and walked all the way down to boot windows and it booted the usual screen me always get and I booted fluppy 007 from that one.

The boot being on that usb does that mean taht even if I ahve booted on the HDD it still need the usb to shut down? Or can one do as with a CD/DVD that one take out teh usb after boot?

So now knowing me can boot the using the usb if something happen to the HDD then I can
try your grub4dosconfig to change my hdd then.


Now it has the menu.lst deep down in jolicloud subdir on Home.

Where will your new menu.lst end up? on home under root? or in some subdir named grub4dosconfig?

And if it fails how do I restore so it boot as it do now from Hdd?

Which of the 4 choices should I tick. None?

Thanks indeed for all help with this.
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Nov 2010, 08:51    Post subject: CONGRAT agin  
nooby wrote:
The boot being on that usb does that mean that even if I have booted on the HDD it still need the usb to shut down? .

If you boot up the OS inside the USB, you cannot remove it before shutdown.
If you boot up any OS on HDD, you can remove the USB after boot.
nooby wrote:
Where will your new menu.lst end up? on home under root? or in some subdir named grub4dosconfig?

The grub4dosconfige saves 2 files at the top layer of sda1, /mnt/sda1/grldr and /mnt/sda1/menu.lst.
Remind you need to edit /mnt/sda1/menu.lst manually, add entry:
Code:
title Windows 7 on /dev/sda2\nBoot up Windows Vista/2008/7 if installed
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
chainloader /bootmgr

The 'map' lines are needed only for USB. You need not 'map' lines as for the HDD(sda).

nooby wrote:
if it fails how do I restore so it boot as it do now from Hdd?

You are better to keep the backup of the current menu.lst, maybe at /mnt/<somepartion>/boot/grub/menu.lst.
If you copy it to /mnt/sda1/menu.lst, you can see old boot menu.
nooby wrote:
Which of the 4 choices should I tick..

On the first dialog of the grub4dosconfig?
Usually all OFF for MBR.
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Nov 2010, 08:58    Post subject:  
Thanks again,
we wrote at same time so I skipped the edit and ask here.

I want to take away the Jolicloud that created the dualboot.

Now that I ahve a booting usb stick I can use that one as you describe and it will be dual boot instead of tripple boot.

Seems fool proof as I get it. I just wonder how one tell jolicloud to remove itself safely. hmm
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Nov 2010, 08:59    Post subject: jolicloud  
nooby wrote:
That worked flawlessly. I booted using the usb mem stick and walked all the way down to boot windows and it booted the usual screen me always get and I booted fluppy 007 from that one.

nooby, i'd like to ask you on the jolicloud before you taking it away Smile .
Did the grub4dosconfig detect the jolicloud automatically?
Have you succeed to boot up the jolicloud directly from the boot menu?
Or from Windows to Jolicloud?
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Nov 2010, 09:08    Post subject:  
good that you ask before I do anything drastic.

I go and test now I get back within 15 minutes at most but try to be quicker than that.

I am back online having booted jolicloud from hdd the usual grub legacy made by wubi I guess

but it failed to boot jolicloud on the mem stick it was not even listed there.

It seems that grub4dosconfig did not find my SuperOS frugal install and did not find Jolicloud at all.

So what does that tells you?
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Nov 2010, 09:34    Post subject: SuperOS, Jolicloud  
nooby wrote:
It seems that grub4dosconfig did not find my SuperOS frugal install and did not find Jolicloud at all.

Your report will brush up future grub4dosconfig.
Thanks so much for the information. Exclamation
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Nov 2010, 09:38    Post subject:  
oops

that is good but should I just go ahead and install grub4dosconfig then and remove jolicould manually maybe to be the safest way?
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Nov 2010, 09:48    Post subject: SuperOS and Joicloud  
nooby wrote:
should I just go ahead

Please go ahead so far you don't care SuperOS and Joicloud.
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Nov 2010, 10:05    Post subject:  
I should be able to add SuperOs later if I want it. The bad thing with doing frugal on Ubuntu is that it can not save on NTFS yet.

Using grub2 it shoudl be able to do a real frugal install that saves on NTFS but I ahve seen no description.

Netrunner maybe is like that? that is a kind of ubuntu if I get it.

okay I give it a try and save a copy of the menu.lst somewere deep so I can add sueros later. no big deal.

Don't hold breath I am a slow tester. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Nov 2010, 11:22    Post subject:  
I have tested Super OS now and that works and booting up all Puppies work very good except for Murky puppy which I seem to have mistreated in some way.

So great thanks.

The menu.lst and the back up of mbr ended up on sda1 instead of sda3 which I expected.

I think sda1 is the recovery but I am not sure. I don't get how one see if sda 1 or 2 are the recovery.

Never mind windows works now after your latest change of how to write the menu.lst

But typical for the person I am, I had forgot how to log in to windows. hope I noted that down somewhere. Smile

I am writing this from SuperOS as a live CD mode. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Nov 2010, 11:34    Post subject:  
Quote:
But i am afraid i cannot follow the problem you are listing up on the UUID.
Shall we talk at another topic?


Code:
# Full installed Linux

title Puppy 430
  uuid CDROM
/
/
/
14b40b44-9c87-4221-94ec-68f784eb8f1b
/
/
/
/
/
/
/
/
/
6d9a8e91-c301-4ff8-9875-97ec708cbee8
/
CDROM
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro video=640x480 panic=300 debug

title Puppy 430 1
  uuid CDROM
/
/
/
14b40b44-9c87-4221-94ec-68f784eb8f1b
/
/
/
/
/
/
/
/
/
6d9a8e91-c301-4ff8-9875-97ec708cbee8
/
CDROM
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda2 ro video=640x480 panic=300 debug

.
.
.

title Lighthouse Pup 443 1
  uuid CDROM
/
/
/
14b40b44-9c87-4221-94ec-68f784eb8f1b
/
/
/
/
/
/
/
/
/
6d9a8e91-c301-4ff8-9875-97ec708cbee8
/
CDROM
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdc10 ro video=640x480 panic=300 debug

# Windows


the panic and debug parameters I added myself.

I've got 11 entries like that (1 is out of the boot range of the Bios: I use this as Backup-partition which is mount- and useable from booted puppies).

The 1. UUID is sdb1 which had been mounted though I did not choose to mount a found wary070-savefile. After finishing the installation and runnig grub4dos I detected that I could have unmounted sdb1 via rox filer.
The 2. UUID is sdc8 (hd2,7) ((?while wary-098 had been frugally installed on sdc7 (hd2,6)?)).

Code:
# blkid
/dev/sdb1: UUID="14b40b44-9c87-4221-94ec-68f784eb8f1b"
/dev/sr1: LABEL="Vodafone MCInsta"
/dev/sdc10: LABEL="/" UUID="1b68d71e-9a29-4d83-8dbd-01f71248e7a1"
/dev/sda2: LABEL="/" UUID="06e3798e-9ebf-4577-b5ec-dbcbcaba41d9"
/dev/sdc9: LABEL="/" UUID="8a64b67d-ed13-411b-a176-6b064653bf3c"
/dev/sdc8: UUID="6d9a8e91-c301-4ff8-9875-97ec708cbee8"
/dev/sdc5: LABEL="/" UUID="07443de5-1fab-4656-a3ab-7b1c14ccc8c8"
/dev/sdc12: LABEL="/" UUID="3c1b56dd-e0a1-4b28-b38c-d4172f81f720"
/dev/sdc4: LABEL="/" UUID="03020cb0-d7ae-4684-adac-0ed9bfa68165"
/dev/sde1: LABEL="RDYVHBBEAST" UUID="4F97-54FE"
/dev/sdc3: LABEL="/" UUID="04f6c08a-0af3-4d95-8b3e-c7eb057bbb98"
/dev/sdc11: LABEL="/" UUID="b9e29e1a-e306-4f27-ab34-7c4532286ff4"
/dev/sda3: LABEL="/" UUID="b9df22eb-a9de-4e5b-8b08-f38594058ef7"
/dev/sda1: LABEL="/" UUID="045a68d4-a1ac-4840-9d76-30820b36ae50"
/dev/sdc6: LABEL="/" UUID="f28bc57e-d1a8-4599-839b-4e30525f554c"
/dev/loop1: UUID="39a31570-33fb-45b8-862e-b7f59760bb74"
/dev/scd0: LABEL="CDROM"
/dev/scd1: LABEL="Vodafone MCInsta"
/dev/sdc1: LABEL="/" UUID="25512db1-adf1-4adf-915b-a4f0df91ef6b"
/dev/sdc7: LABEL="/" UUID="429ee1ed-70a4-43a5-89f8-33496c489260"
/dev/sr0: LABEL="CDROM"
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Nov 2010, 08:05    Post subject: Bugfix: v1.6.1 available  
Thanks Karl Godt.
Found the version 1.6.0 makes Improper entry for full install with Wary-098 and in some case with Puppy 5.x. Please try the new v1.6.1.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Nov 2010, 18:55    Post subject:  
installed the 1.6.1 on Macpup F 3 full install on /dev/sdc5 :

the blkid entries for the full installs at the menu.lst are correct now :
Quote:
# Full installed Linux

title Puppy 430 (sda1/boot)
uuid 045a68d4-a1ac-4840-9d76-30820b36ae50
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro panic=300 debug
title Puppy 430 (sda2/boot)
uuid 06e3798e-9ebf-4577-b5ec-dbcbcaba41d9
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda2 ro panic=300 debug
.
.
.
title Lighthouse Pup 443 (sdc10/boot)
uuid 1b68d71e-9a29-4d83-8dbd-01f71248e7a1
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdc10 ro panic=300 debug


but the frugals seem not to accept additional kernel parameters :
Quote:
title dpup-001 (sdc3/dpup001)
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /dpup001/initrd.gz
kernel /dpup001/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=dpup001 pfix=fsck
initrd /dpup001/initrd.gz

tried three times deleting pfix=fsck and typing panic=9 debug .

I haven't booted yet.

One thing is confusing me a little :
It still does not recocnize sdb or sdb1 mounted or unmounted.
sda1,2,3 and all sdc are recocnized.
sdb holds a suse9.2 full install on reiserfs with several puppy frugals.
I think it might be the filesystem-type :
Code:
# probepart
/dev/sda1|ext2|2457882
/dev/sda2|ext3|2457944
/dev/sda3|ext4|2457944
/dev/sda4|swap|1092420
/dev/sdb1|reiserfs|35648172
/dev/sdb2|swap|3453974
/dev/sdc1|ext2|20755916
/dev/sdc2|none|2
/dev/sdc3|ext3|20627460
/dev/sdc4|ext4|29929094
/dev/sdc5|ext2|30780540
/dev/sdc6|ext3|30732282
/dev/sdc7|ext4|31117842
/dev/sdc8|ext2|30892932
/dev/sdc9|ext3|495765836
/dev/sdc10|ext3|31760442
/dev/sdc11|ext2|16996706
/dev/sdc12|ext3|229102902
/dev/sdc13|swap|2040128
/dev/sdc14|swap|2056256
/dev/sdc15|swap|2104452
/dev/sdc16|none|2104452
/dev/sdd|none|0
/dev/sr0|iso9660|253612
#
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Nov 2010, 20:31    Post subject: PUPPYOPTIONS  
Karl Godt wrote:
the frugals seem not to accept additional kernel parameters

Thanks Karl. There is a bug.
/usr/sbin/grub4dosconfig at line 606
Quote:
<entry tooltip-text=\"$_Puppy_opt_tip\"><variable>$PUPPYOPTIONS</variable><input>echo -en \"$PUPPYOPTIONS\"</input></entry>

Remove '$' from the first '$PUPPYOPTIONS', leave it as for the second.
Quote:
<entry tooltip-text=\"$_Puppy_opt_tip\"><variable>PUPPYOPTIONS</variable><input>echo -en \"$PUPPYOPTIONS\"</input></entry>

Karl Godt wrote:
It still does not recocnize sdb or sdb1 mounted or unmounted.
sda1,2,3 and all sdc are recocnized.
sdb holds a suse9.2 full install on reiserfs with several puppy frugals.
I think it might be the filesystem-type :

Sorry but the reiserfs not supported.
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