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shinobar


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PostPosted: Sun 16 Jan 2011, 09:33    Post subject: Boot CD from grub4dos on HDD  

bigpup wrote:
title Boot CD-ROM - (cd0)
cdrom --init
map --hook
chainloader (cd0)
rootnoverify (cd0)
Thanks bigpup for the interesting information.
It may depend on the hardware/BIOS.
As for my PC, it doesn't work. The grub4dos seems not recognize the device 'cd0'.
It's strange while my PC/BIOS can boot the cd... Question

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Jan 2011, 09:51    Post subject:  

Did you give the CD drive a little time to spin up after you inserted the CD?

The Grub4dos guide has other options to try.
http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/boot.htm#cd
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PostPosted: Sun 16 Jan 2011, 16:31    Post subject: Re: Boot CD from grub4dos on HDD  

My cd has serial ata interface, that is the reason grub4dos cannot recognize it as cd0 i guess.
Of course it may also depend on the BIOS.

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Jan 2011, 08:53    Post subject: floppy disc  

Hi Shinobar.
Today i installed the last unstable version and tried to install on floppy disc .
I couldn't and got this massage :

/usr/sbin/grub4dosconfig
version 1.6d9
Tue Jan 18 14:28:28 UTC 2011
BINSTALLER=bootlace.com
sda(MBR)_41.1GB_ATA_ExcelStor_Techno
fd0_(FLOPPY_DISK)
sdb_1.9GB_Corsair_Flash_Voyager_
sda1/lucid/lupq-511.sfs|lupq_511
sda1/wary/wary_500.sfs|wary_500
sda4/boot/vmlinuz|Wary_Puppy_500

sdb1|Unknown

mkfs.msdos 3.0.7 (24 Dec 2009)
Wrigting... /mnt/fd0/menu.lst
Failed to make 'menu.lst'.
Installing bootloader on floppy...


Error: Invalid option.



BOOTLACE writes GRLDR BOOT RECORD to MBR or to the boot area of a file system.

Usage: bootlace.com [OPTIONS] DEVICE_OR_FILE

Options: --read-only, --floppy[=N], --boot-prevmbr-first, --boot-prevmbr-last,

--no-backup-mbr, --force-backup-mbr, --mbr-enable-floppy, --mbr-disable-floppy,

--mbr-enable-osbr, --mbr-disable-osbr, --duce, --time-out=T, --hot-key=K,

--preferred-drive=D, --preferred-partition=P, --sectors-per-track=S, --heads=H,

--start-sector=B, --total-sectors=C, --install-partition=I, --lba, --chs,

--fat12, --fat16, --fat32, --vfat, --ntfs, --ext2, --serial-number=SN,

--restore-mbr, --mbr-no-bpb, --chs-no-tune

DEVICE_OR_FILE: Filename of the device or image. For DOS, a BIOS drive number

(in hex 0xHH or decimal DDD format)can be used to access the drive.

Failed to install bootlace.com.
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Jan 2011, 22:00    Post subject: Re: floppy disc (v1.6.9)  

Thanks, yordanj94. Confirmed.
There is a typo in /usr/sbin/grub4dosconfig at line 1495(number of hyphen'-' should both be 2).
Wrong:
Code:
   OPT="---floppy -chs"

Correct:
Quote:
OPT="--floppy --chs"


Another issue on floppy install: The grub4doscpnfig 1.6.9 gives warning that the MBR is not botable for the floppy install. Ignore the warning please.

Sorry for your inconvenience.

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Jan 2011, 07:41    Post subject:  

Hi Shinobar.
No,no you don't have to be sorry.
You are the one who does the hard work.
Like now.
Everything is fine and works well.
Thanks again.

/usr/sbin/grub4dosconfig
version 1.6d9
ср яну 19 13:19:05 EET 2011
BINSTALLER=bootlace.com
sda(MBR)_41.2GB_ATA_ExcelStor_Techno
fd0_(FLOPPY_DISK)
sda1/wary/wary_500.sfs|wary_500




mkfs.msdos 3.0.6 (04 Oct 2009)
Wrigting... /mnt/fd0/menu.lst
Failed to make 'menu.lst'.
Installing bootloader on floppy...




Filesystem type is FAT12.







Success.



Installing grldr ...
`/usr/lib/grub4dos/grldr' -> `/mnt/fd0/grldr'


I don't know why is written ,but i do have "menu" list and works ?
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PostPosted: Wed 19 Jan 2011, 07:54    Post subject: Failed to make 'menu.lst  

yordanj94 wrote:
Wrigting... /mnt/fd0/menu.lst
Failed to make 'menu.lst'.

I don't know why is written ,but i do have "menu" list and works ?

It's another bug of logging v1.6.9, but works. Please ignore.
It will be fixed at the next release.

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Jan 2011, 04:39    Post subject:  

quote JustGreg

Nooby,

Please look at this "How to" at
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=39499

It should help. I found it by searching on Grub4Dos. It addresses Vista.

Thank you, Shinobar for posting the pet and information. I will have to take another look at grub4Dos. I have been using Grub since it comes with Puppy.
unquote

thanks Greg I go there and look. I want to install Minino Linux on an USB later today and will use config to set it up.

Some thing with software made this not readable so I quote it to see if it gets readable

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Jan 2011, 05:41    Post subject: Grub4DosConfig v1.6.9.1 (21 Jan 2011)  

V1.6.9.1 bugfix release:
was failed installing on floppy(thanks to yordanj94), pmedia option

Note that v1.6.9x are beta testing.
The last stable is grub4dos-0.4.4.v1.6.3.

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Jan 2011, 11:12    Post subject:  

Shinobar. I tried to get Minino Linux to boot in frugal install on my HDD but failed.

then I thought of Grub4DosConfig and I moved all the iso files to a new 4GB USB mem stick Kingston drive. First I forgot to set the flag to boot.

But it failed to boot using an USB too. maybe it can only boot from CD?

I tried to format another drive bit gparted in Snow Puppy failed to forat it. Unknown format it says.

Any suggestion on how to get it to boot?

No I don't want to go into Ms Win7 to do unetboot in to do it. Smile

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Jan 2011, 22:14    Post subject: Minino Linux  

nooby wrote:
I tried to get Minino Linux to boot in frugal install on my HDD but failed.

Minino Linux seems not support frugal install.
If you want to boot minino from USB, you can get the USB image, minino12.dd.bz2.
Follow the direction on the minino linux web site.
http://minino.galpon.org/wiki/doku.php?id=descargar_galpon_minino

You need a USB drive larger than 4GB. EDIT: 4GB and larger.

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PostPosted: Sat 22 Jan 2011, 02:56    Post subject:  

Thanks Shinobar, wow larger than 4. That is the largerst I ahve apart from external usb HDD them being 10GB to 38 and 100GB something old abandoned spinning HDDs Smile But I want a silent computer and they whine a lot.

I give up on it that is better. I wish all Linux Distros to be made for Frugal Install. So practical when they have no CD built in.

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PostPosted: Sat 22 Jan 2011, 03:29    Post subject: minino onusb  

nooby wrote:
wow larger than 4.

Well, 4GB is OK.

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PostPosted: Sat 22 Jan 2011, 05:04    Post subject:  

Okay but I am too impatient to learn all that stuff now just for to be able to see how it behaves. If it not work easily to do a frugal install on HDD then it is not worth it for me unless everybody have tested it and says it is better than both Puppy Linux and Knoppix latest version and then I sure will try that descritption.

Thanks for taking time to explain it to me.

What Linux Distro works best with grub4dosconfig doing frugal install on NTFS HDD apart from Puppy Linux?

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Jan 2011, 16:48    Post subject: frugal install supprted by pupsaveconfig  

nooby wrote:
What Linux Distro works best with grub4dosconfig doing frugal install on NTFS HDD apart from Puppy Linux?

The pupsaveconfig supports wubi installed ones including jolicloud other than puppy.
It can boot up them directly, means without the help of the windows ntldr/bootmgr.

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