Quirky 003 feedback
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Quirky 003 feedback
I announced Quirky 003 here:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01312
003 has a pretty radical architecture for multimedia. See blog posts:
Mozplugger: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01317
Swfdec: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01311
Mozplugger: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01310
Pmusic: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01309
Ffmpeg: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01307
Ogle: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01305
Fundamentals: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01304
Swfdec: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01299
Swfdec: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01298
Anyone wanting to pitch in an help test and improve this new architecture, you're welcome!
I have started this thread for any feedback related to Quirky 003.
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01312
003 has a pretty radical architecture for multimedia. See blog posts:
Mozplugger: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01317
Swfdec: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01311
Mozplugger: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01310
Pmusic: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01309
Ffmpeg: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01307
Ogle: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01305
Fundamentals: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01304
Swfdec: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01299
Swfdec: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01298
Anyone wanting to pitch in an help test and improve this new architecture, you're welcome!
I have started this thread for any feedback related to Quirky 003.
[url]https://bkhome.org/news/[/url]
new version of Quirky
using new Quirky
I have found that when going to a new version of Quirky, that you need to start fresh. It does not play well with anything that is from an earlier Quirky. If you remove any saved Quirky sfs files or hard drive installs and start fresh, allot of the problems that you are having will not happen.
Barry: do not know if this should have to be done, but I have had much better luck getting things to work, by doing a clean fresh install, with each new Quirky.
Delete
Posted on 6 Jan 2010, 8:37 by BarryK
Start fresh
Yeah, each of these Quirky builds is so different, that it is better to start fresh each time.
I'll only start paying attention to upgradeability when/if Quirky gets to alpha or beta status.
I have found that when going to a new version of Quirky, that you need to start fresh. It does not play well with anything that is from an earlier Quirky. If you remove any saved Quirky sfs files or hard drive installs and start fresh, allot of the problems that you are having will not happen.
Barry: do not know if this should have to be done, but I have had much better luck getting things to work, by doing a clean fresh install, with each new Quirky.
Delete
Posted on 6 Jan 2010, 8:37 by BarryK
Start fresh
Yeah, each of these Quirky builds is so different, that it is better to start fresh each time.
I'll only start paying attention to upgradeability when/if Quirky gets to alpha or beta status.
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Hi I'm just wondering why Quirky2&3 both for some odd reason gives a black background behind the menu icons, is this on purpose? I tried to fix it by changing jwm, xdgmenus and nothing, is libpng faulty? am I overlooking a setting?, is it xorg? whats up with it?.
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hmmm I'm starting to think its a Xorg issue, never had before with other puppy versions.
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Re: new version of Quirky
Indeedbigpup wrote: . . .you need to start fresh
I tried puppy pfix=ram
. . . and just remembered it is quirky pfix=ram
no wonder it picked up all my old quirky settings and did an update . . .
I need to get rid of:
quirkysave.2fs
quirky-001.sfs
quirky-002.sfs
As it was I could not view a flash file from Youtube - started got about 5 secs and then stopped
or an ASF video file I had just recorded
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Re: new version of Quirky
That's strange. I'm running 003 right now, just confirmed that Flash plays at youtube. Every Flash video I have tried so far, works.Lobster wrote:As it was I could not view a flash file from Youtube - started got about 5 secs and then stopped
or an ASF video file I had just recorded
I wonder if you also have a problem with your Xorg video driver. What video hardware do you have?
You could try running the xorgwizard script and choose the 'vesa' generic driver, then see if that makes any difference to playing Flash.
Up until recently I was using the 'vesa' driver and the Flash player worked fine.
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Hi barry my video card is NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT pci-expressBarryK wrote:ttuuxxx,ttuuxxx wrote:hmmm I'm starting to think its a Xorg issue, never had before with other puppy versions.
ttuuxxx
What video hardware do you have?
http://www.asus.com/Product.aspx?P_ID=Blx8W2DaqhNeKXug&content=specifications
GeForce 8500 GT specs
Specifications
Graphics Engine GeForce 8500GT
Video Memory 512MB DDR2
Engine Clock 459MHz
Memory Clock 666MHz (333MHz DDR2)
Memory Interface 128-bit
CRT Max Resolution 2048x1536
Bus Standard PCI Express X16
D-Sub Output YES
HDTV Output (YPbPr) YES, via HDTV Out cable
TV Output YES, via S-Video to Composite
DVI Output DVI-I
Adapter/Cable Bundled DVI-to-2nd VGA adapter
HDTV-out cable
Software Bundled ASUS Utilities & Driver
I/O Specifications
PCI-Express
HDCP Compliant
HDTV-out
DVI-I
Dual VGA
Accessories
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and this is the bottom of my /etc/X11/xorg.conf
ttuuxxx
#everything past here is auto-generated by Puppy's Xorg Wizard...
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
Option "XkbLayout" "us" #xkeymap0
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" #mouse0protocol
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
#Option "Emulate3Buttons"
#Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" #scrollwheel
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
HorizSync 31.5-48.5
VertRefresh 40-70
#UseModes "Modes0" #monitor0usemodes
Option "PreferredMode" "1024x768"
EndSection
Section "Modes"
Identifier "Modes0"
#modes0modeline0
EndSection
Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "HWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "ShadowFB" # [<bool>]
#Option "UseFBDev" # [<bool>]
#Option "Rotate" # [<str>]
#Option "VideoKey" # <i>
#Option "FlatPanel" # [<bool>]
#Option "FPDither" # [<bool>]
#Option "CrtcNumber" # <i>
#Option "FPScale" # [<bool>]
#Option "FPTweak" # <i>
#Option "DualHead" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "vesa" #card0driver
VendorName "Unknown Vendor"
BoardName "Unknown Board"
BusID "PCI:2:0:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubsection
EndSection
ttuuxxx
#everything past here is auto-generated by Puppy's Xorg Wizard...
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
Option "XkbLayout" "us" #xkeymap0
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" #mouse0protocol
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
#Option "Emulate3Buttons"
#Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" #scrollwheel
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
HorizSync 31.5-48.5
VertRefresh 40-70
#UseModes "Modes0" #monitor0usemodes
Option "PreferredMode" "1024x768"
EndSection
Section "Modes"
Identifier "Modes0"
#modes0modeline0
EndSection
Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "HWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "ShadowFB" # [<bool>]
#Option "UseFBDev" # [<bool>]
#Option "Rotate" # [<str>]
#Option "VideoKey" # <i>
#Option "FlatPanel" # [<bool>]
#Option "FPDither" # [<bool>]
#Option "CrtcNumber" # <i>
#Option "FPScale" # [<bool>]
#Option "FPTweak" # <i>
#Option "DualHead" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "vesa" #card0driver
VendorName "Unknown Vendor"
BoardName "Unknown Board"
BusID "PCI:2:0:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubsection
EndSection
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http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
ttuuxx, I had this issue here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=46266
So it appeared with Ati-cards, after upgrading Puppys inbuilt xserver 1.5 to 1.6.3, and adding also the updated libdrm and xorg drivers, and opengl (mesa).
I wonder, which of these components causes the black icon backgrounds...
Mark
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=46266
So it appeared with Ati-cards, after upgrading Puppys inbuilt xserver 1.5 to 1.6.3, and adding also the updated libdrm and xorg drivers, and opengl (mesa).
I wonder, which of these components causes the black icon backgrounds...
Mark
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Slow Screen Redraw / jerky video after screen rotation
Barry,
I'm having slow screen redraw / jerky video playback after using xrandr to rotate the screen by 90 degree on a Intel 945GM Platform. I'm using VLC 0.9.2 to do the video playback.
Any idea what can be done to improve the situation?
Attached is the xorg log file.
Thanks
I'm having slow screen redraw / jerky video playback after using xrandr to rotate the screen by 90 degree on a Intel 945GM Platform. I'm using VLC 0.9.2 to do the video playback.
Any idea what can be done to improve the situation?
Attached is the xorg log file.
Thanks
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Did a fresh run after removing old quirky filesI wonder if you also have a problem with your Xorg video driver. What video hardware do you have?
The built in video hardware (on motherboard) is
NVIDIA Geforce7050PV/GeForce7025
As far as I remember it worked in 24 bit colour mode
in the previous Quirky
This time I had to drop to 16 bit
using the xorgwizard
ASF not working in Ogle
The Flash player works with intermittent sound for about 5 seconds
then the flash image stops - sound gets weird then stutters, then stops - whilst the sound is grinding to a halt a few still images from the flash video appear on screen - so it is not streaming properly (or something)
The browser is frozen and I have to restart x to clear it
Update
Ok changed the driver (in the config file) from nv to vesa
Now the flash video played
It did pause and drop a few frames every 5 secs (so still not quite there) but sound and video played to the end and no browser crash
Update 2
Ah forgot to mention the screen bleaching is still there
left the computer -
came back all icons and screen has a bleached out appearance
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Here's a Quirky Background, I made it with the 4.3 background feel,
anyways its a good file size
ttuuxxx
anyways its a good file size
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ttuuxxx,ttuuxxx wrote: Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "HWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "ShadowFB" # [<bool>]
#Option "UseFBDev" # [<bool>]
#Option "Rotate" # [<str>]
#Option "VideoKey" # <i>
#Option "FlatPanel" # [<bool>]
#Option "FPDither" # [<bool>]
#Option "CrtcNumber" # <i>
#Option "FPScale" # [<bool>]
#Option "FPTweak" # <i>
#Option "DualHead" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "vesa" #card0driver
VendorName "Unknown Vendor"
BoardName "Unknown Board"
BusID "PCI:2:0:0"
EndSection
It's not so good that you are using the generic 'vesa' driver.
I know that Nvidia hardware is troublesome, but I thought that the Xorg Wizard should have automatically chosen the 'nv' driver, and that should work.
Note, Quirky has Xorg 7.5, and Xorg server package version 1.7.1.
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Re: Slow Screen Redraw / jerky video after screen rotation
I have no idea. Looking at your xorg log file, I see that XvMC is enabled. That's strange, as I left out those libraries. On my laptop, the xorg log file reports that XvMC is disabled.ckteo172 wrote:Barry,
I'm having slow screen redraw / jerky video playback after using xrandr to rotate the screen by 90 degree on a Intel 945GM Platform. I'm using VLC 0.9.2 to do the video playback.
Any idea what can be done to improve the situation?
Attached is the xorg log file.
Thanks
Is your VLC package providing files that look like "libI810XvMC*"? If so, they are probably the wrong versions for his x server and may be causing problems. ...a long shot but that's the only thing I can think of.
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Ah, so you have a simlar situation to ttuuxxx. There is a proprietary Nvidia driver we could use, isn't there? I haven't been following the saga with nvidia, as I don't have that hardware.Lobster wrote: The built in video hardware (on motherboard) is
NVIDIA Geforce7050PV/GeForce7025
Ah, yes I do, my daughter gave me her old PC, which has a Nvidia graphics card. I haven't got around to setting it up. Will do.
Ummm, where can I get Nvidia driver source to compile?
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vtpup has written an nvidia howto:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 818#365818
...well, the 2.6.31.5 sfs file would have to be used.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 818#365818
...well, the 2.6.31.5 sfs file would have to be used.
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