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shinobar


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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan 2010, 10:55    Post subject:  Quickset Puppy
Subject description: Autostart X, autosetup LAN connection
 

It automatically starts up the desktop with 800x600 screen size, Universal timezone, us-English keyboards.
You can change the first setup with one window.
The network connection is also automatic in case an eth0 interface is found and DHCP is available(net-setup update required).

Quick setup Puppy is easy to make up based on any Puppy v4.x(do not apply on Puppy-5.x).
Download quicksetup-1.1-p4-xvesa.pet (UPDATE: 1 Dec 2010)from here.
Follow the document.

This technique can not apply to most of Puppy-5.x which do not have Xvesa.
To get direct desktop with Xorg version 1.7, refer Lucid Puppy Quickset edition(LupQ). You need to modify /usr/bin/xwin. See the post:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=476149#476149

Optional add-ons (all available from the same download link above)

Related topic:Add a Graphical Boot Menu to your Puppy Live CD

A good example is available in pup-431JPqs3.iso found here.it is initially japanese but you can change the settings with one window dialog.


(outdated)
firstsetup-0.9en.pet (14 March 2010)]from here.
Follow the document.
quick_qirky_firstsetup.png
 Description   You can change the first setup with one window.
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quick_qirky_firstsetup.png


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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jan 2010, 12:51    Post subject:  

shinobar, I thank you and your Puppy Linux Japanese Team very much for your work here with Quickset.

I look forward to giving you feedback on this very interesting offering - automatic eth0 connection is just what I was after, and in your Quickset liveCD version a very welcome approach to non-wireless mobile computing. This is very much appreciated.
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jan 2010, 13:00    Post subject:  

shinobar

a very needed GUI

nice and clean and easy to read

great work
and a bonus ! ethernet set up Very Happy

Joe

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jan 2010, 23:30    Post subject:  

shinobar
I agree with big_bass. Thank you for this and also frugalinstaller, pupsaveconfig and Grub4dosconfig. They are all very useful and needed apps IMO.
I also just tried the pup431JPqs0 and found it shows off these apps really well.
I hope more people here see your good work.

Thanks again
Dave
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sc0ttman


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PostPosted: Sat 13 Feb 2010, 06:20    Post subject:  

davesurrey wrote:
shinobar
I agree with big_bass. Thank you for this and also frugalinstaller, pupsaveconfig and Grub4dosconfig. They are all very useful and needed apps IMO.
I also just tried the pup431JPqs0 and found it shows off these apps really well.
I hope more people here see your good work.

Thanks again
Dave

Agreed.. Your work is great.. I look forward to playing with it more!

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Mar 2010, 06:56    Post subject:  

Very Good!
I will use this in the next Browserlinux.
One thing: us@(USA/univarsal) -> us@(USA/universal)
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Mar 2010, 05:07    Post subject: firstsetup updated
Subject description: to make quick setup puppy
 

Now firstsetup updated to firstsetup-0.9en.pet. See the top of this topic.
Recommended to use with next add-ons(not included in this package anymore).
* Net-setup update
* Remasterpup2 update
* Grub4Dos config
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 09:15    Post subject: Update: quicksetup  

Uploaded quicksetup-1.0-p4-xvesa.pet for Puppy-4.x.
See the top post of this topic.

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 14:39    Post subject: Re: Update: quicksetup  

shinobar wrote:
Uploaded quicksetup-1.0-p4-xvesa.pet for Puppy-4.x.
See the top post of this topic.

yeeeeaaaaahh.... Good man shinobar!

Gonna play with that as soon as I get home from work! Smile

EDIT: had trouble with this.. I sent you a PM about it, hope you don't mind Embarassed

EDIT EDIT: I finally got past the problem of booting to Xvesa, without messing up Xorg in 4.2..
That works...

But quicksetup-1.0-p4-xvesa.pet has caused a new problem:

Main language settings are not remembered.. even using the old locale tool..

And now I get errors in the terminal for many apps, usually ROX..
It says
Code:
Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C Library
Using fallback C locale.


Then, the pmount script will not work, because yaf-splash seems to die, complaining about unsupported locales...

However, pmount works fine before the "personalize settings 1.3d" gui has finished, but once it sets some options, then pmount will not work..

If anyone can help me that would be lovely, if not.. OK! Wink

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Nov 2010, 01:26    Post subject: Re: Update: quicksetup  

sc0ttman wrote:
And now I get errors in the terminal for many apps, usually ROX..
It says
Code:
Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C Library
Using fallback C locale.

On the virtual terminal, type:
Code:
locale

Most of old Puppy's are lacking UTF-8 support on the virtual terminal even the urxvt is compiled with UTF-8 support.

EDIT: Attached UTF-8 support for Puppy-4.x.
Use with the quicksetup-1.0-p4-xvesa.pet.
And the urxvt should have UTF-8 support.
UTF_8_support-p4.pet
Description  UTF-8 support on Puppy-4.x
Require urxvt UTF-8 supported and rc.local allows '.UTF-8' as the locale name
pet

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Filename  UTF_8_support-p4.pet 
Filesize  141 KB 
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Nov 2010, 02:27    Post subject: Direct desktop with Xorg on Puppy-4.x  

sc0ttman wrote:
I finally got past the problem of booting to Xvesa, without messing up Xorg in 4.2..

As for the Xorg on Puppy-4.x, I remember the BrowserLinux does the direct to the desktop. It uses vesa driver of Xorg, but i am not sure where is trap.
puppymartin must know.

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Nov 2010, 07:26    Post subject: Re: Direct desktop with Xorg on Puppy-4.x  

shinobar wrote:
sc0ttman wrote:
I finally got past the problem of booting to Xvesa, without messing up Xorg in 4.2..

As for the Xorg on Puppy-4.x, I remember the BrowserLinux does the direct to the desktop. It uses vesa driver of Xorg, but i am not sure where is trap.
puppymartin must know.

Thanks a lot for all your packages and help.. You're a star.. I'm gonna try to get this all working without bothering you again! I know you're busy enough!

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Nov 2010, 08:33    Post subject: Re: Direct desktop with Xorg on Puppy-4.x  

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I'm gonna try to get this all working without bothering you again! I know you're busy enough!

Thanks sc0ttman. Don't hesitate. I am willing to see your try and progress on this topic.

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Nov 2010, 18:34    Post subject: Re: Direct desktop with Xorg on Puppy-4.x  

shinobar wrote:
sc0ttman wrote:
I'm gonna try to get this all working without bothering you again! I know you're busy enough!

Thanks sc0ttman. Don't hesitate. I am willing to see your try and progress on this topic.

OK then... Smile

I'm using quicksetup1.0, in a custom 4.2 system...

I would be interested to know if my problems are present on a normal 4.2..

(Because what I am using is based on TurboPup/PA9 but I don't think TurboPup has special locale settings or functions..)

Here is my current situation:

1. The firstrun dialog does not change the main language (LANG set in /etc/profile) but all other options work fine.

After firstrun, doing the 'locale' command in the terminal always returns en_US (no change).

Running firstrun from the terminal shows this error (maybe relevant, maybe not):

Code:
/usr/bin/firstrun: line 206: locale_name: command not found


2. When I use the old 'chooselocale' tool to change locale, then I get when running other apps:

Code:
Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C Library
Using fallback C locale.


After I get this message, pmount will not work.

I have not yet installed your utf-8 pet file, but I have edited it and made a new package.

I have added symlinks in '/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/locale/'. Example: am_ET.UTF-8 --> am_ET.utf8

(After reading /usr/bin/firstrun I think the symlinks will be required, but I am not sure...) Embarassed

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 08:30    Post subject:  

OK.. update:

I have installed your utf-8 package, with my added symlinks and remastered.
I booted the new version, and firstrun loads, so I set the locale to en_GB at first boot.

Firstrun detects the change and applies it successfully Very Happy
I then run 'locale' in the terminal and get en_GB..

So it works on first boot (even when I switch to Xorg Smile )
However, it is not perfect yet.

1. The change of locale is not shown next time I run firstrun.
Also it will not detect or apply any more changes I make to the locale.
Example:

- It always shows en_US, every time.
- If I change only the locale, I get 'Nothing is changed'.
- If I change locale and keyboard, I get only 'Changes completed: (Keyboard)'

2. If I do not change from Xvesa to Xorg (or vice versa), the colour-depth will not change.
Example: I cannot change from Xvesa 16bit to Xvesa 24bit.

3. The old chooselocale tool still messes things up (locale command returns '**: not found').

4. Pmount works fine before I use firstrun. It works after firstrun, but only when I type 'pmount' into rxvt or sakura.

After firstrun, when I run pmount from jwm menu(s) it does not work.
I even tried it when the jwm menu entry is 'rxvt -e pmount' - didn't work.

(NOTE: pmount fails through jwm menus, even when 'locale' returns 'en_US', but only after firstrun.. I'm using your jwm i18n)

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