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Argolance


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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan 2010, 08:47    Post_subject:  About applications localizations!  

Hello everybody!
I am a faithful follower of Puppy/Toutou LINUX (French version of Puppy) and feel now really uncomfortable with 'Windaube' (as we are used to call this 'stuff' in French > daube=stuff!). But why applications and programs haven't got systematically their corresponding po and mo files for those who are not English-speaking and in a good mood for working on localizations? For example, I tried to make 'a' (not 'the', because I am yet not sure at all of the result though it seems to run as well as possible!), so I say I tried to make a French localization of JWM (http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=39162&)start=210)... Everybody knows how it can be (sometimes) a long and quite difficult job... Do you think I will do it again for every release? Surely not! This is a pity and a lot of given/lost time! Isn't it? So, could anybody explain that to me? What is the feeling of Barry (full of genius Barry!) about this?
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jan 2010, 06:27    Post_subject: I18n  

Hi,
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why applications and programs haven't got systematically their corresponding po and mo files for those who are not English-speaking and in a good mood for working on localizations?

because sometimes the internationalization step is not done, though the process is well documented on the gnu page:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html
... it requires some work, but then localization work is easier.
For JWM, you could try to ask Joe Wingbermuehle for it, or do it yourself (and submit it) ... since you have already located strings to be translated, you have already done part of the job.

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jan 2010, 09:40    Post_subject:  

Hello!
Thanks a lot for your reply!
I have yet got some problems with my localization of JWM and have to work on it a bit more! But I will take your advice...
Regards.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jan 2010, 18:27    Post_subject:  

I am gradually moving towards internationalizing the scripts in Woof, thanks to shinobar. So far I have done remasterpup2, pmount and drive_all (latter is what runs when you click on a desktop drive icon). We currently have English and Japanese translations for these.

See my blog post yesterday.

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Jan 2010, 19:01    Post_subject:  

Here's the icewm package I made up for 4.2, I added 34 locales to it, and yes french is included Smile Hmmm another reason why I like Icewm over JWM, but lately I've been getting use to jwm, but still do prefer Icewm.
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Jan 2010, 13:17    Post_subject:  

Hello everybody!
@BarryK
... Thanks for your reply!

@ttuuxxx
... Prefer clearly JWM, it's a matter of taste! Thank you anyway for your pet!
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PostPosted: Sat 15 May 2010, 21:50    Post_subject:  

I almost got the following thread off-track with remarks that should have gone here.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=418731#418731

In any case, thanks to Barry for his attempts at "localization" (which he described above), and all the previous and current Puppy / Quirky explorations and implementations..

There is certainly a need for easy implementation of a distro in the ordinary user's language. The bigger distros have it built in. An example among the smaller distros is cdlinux.

So the solutions do exist. How difficult would it be transfer those to Puppy? I suppose we don't have the manpower.

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