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01micko


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jan 2010, 20:50    Post subject:  
Hi

I had no probs with mplayer in pupRadio/Telly.

BTW Barry, it's up to version 0.5 now. (pupRadio)

This is a nice quirky and I'm on the old r31 thinkpad, 1066 celeron, 512 ram, intel 8M graphics, no swap. Very fast.

3G Virgin modem connected easy, but needed '-chap' option in /etc/ppp/options. This machine has an onboard modem too.

Sound fine, ootb, flash fine too. Did have mplayer menu problem reported by tronkel.

Thanks.

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BarryK
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jan 2010, 20:51    Post subject:  
panzerpuppy wrote:
- mplayer lacks the much needed gl2 output. Users with ATI cards (using the proprietary ATI driver) will suffer from washed out colors and tearing if they use Xv. The gl2 output works perfectly for them.

- mplayer doesn't have repeat / loop playback.

- Is there any way to prevent Ogle from taking over the place of MPlayer as the defaultmediaplayer when a normal DATA DVD disc is inserted in /mnt/sr0 ?

If I have a DVD with HD (.mp4/.mkv) movie clips and click on the 'PLAY' icon on the desktop, Quirky should start MPlayer, not Ogle.


have you tested that mplayer does actually play the DVD?

I configured mplayer (prior to compiling) without DVD support, so I'm not sure it will play DVDs at all. If you report that it won't, then I will have to re-examine the configure and try another compile.

What does Ogle do in this situation?
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01micko


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jan 2010, 20:53    Post subject:  
Thanks Barry,

That fixed mplayer menu entry perfectly.

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jan 2010, 20:59    Post subject:  
panzerpuppy wrote:
Is there a MESA (OpenGL) .PET package for Quirky-005?
I can't continue testing Quirky without this package.


There is a T2 .tar.bz2 package, but it isn't cutdown at all -- has all the docs for example.

You need to go into the Configure in the Puppy package Manager and choose the 't2-8.0rc-official' repository. Then choose it by clicking the appropriate tab at top of window, then do a search for "mesa".
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:06    Post subject:  
Lobster wrote:
Had to change to the internal sound card using the ALSA sound wizard (I also have a PCI sound card that I am not connected to)

Clicked on BBC news that plays OK in browser
ASF - no
mp4 - no full screen, no sound, small pics looks good
wmv - small image, no sound, no full screen
vob - small image, no sound no full screen

Smile


The inability to do full-screen is one of the limitations of the Xorg 'vesa' driver. This applies to both mplayer and ogle.

As you have Nvidia hardware, you need to use the 'nv' driver to be able to get full-screen.

Quirky 005 also has the 'nouveau' driver, that you should test. It didn't work for me. I do hope to have more success with the nouveau driver when I upgrade to the 2.6.33 kernel.

... note the Xorg Wizard now allows you to select vesa, nv or nouveau for testing.
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:10    Post subject:  
Lobster wrote:
Had to change to the internal sound card using the ALSA sound wizard (I also have a PCI sound card that I am not connected to)

Clicked on BBC news that plays OK in browser
ASF - no
mp4 - no full screen, no sound, small pics looks good
wmv - small image, no sound, no full screen
vob - small image, no sound no full screen

Smile


Regarding sound, the Adobe Flash plugin plays the BBC news.
The other files are being played by mplayer -- it seems that mplayer is not configured properly to output to your sound card -- maybe it's outputing to the wrong sound hardware.
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panzerpuppy

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jan 2010, 23:33    Post subject:  
I've installed the MESA 7.6 .tar.gz package from the T2 repository, but it's not complete. It also needs the 'freeglut3' and 'mesa-demos' packages to get fully working OpenGL.

Now this is weird: PPM shows 'sysfiles-0000' as a dependency for the 'mesa 7.6' package.

Puppy testers beware! Installing 'sysfiles-0000' will mess up your Puppy installation. Stay away from that package - DON'T click on it Smile

The latest stable version of mesa at the moment is 7.7 and 7.8 is just about to be released (the T2 mesa package is a bit old)

UPDATE: I downloaded the 'freeglut3' and 'mesa-demos' .tar.gz packages: glxinfo works now (DRI rendering enabled), but glxgears crashes with the following error message:

Code:
# glxgears
drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22. Kernel failed to parse or rejected command stream. See dmesg for more info.


Looks like we need the latest MESA from GIT to get basic OpenGL support for ATI (Radeon) cards with Xorg 7.5
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aarf

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jan 2010, 00:11    Post subject:  
nooby wrote:
Does this mean that q5 is better than both q3 and q4?

Pardon if I am very naive asking such question.

I have tested Q3 and that one worked rather well.
so if Q5 is better then that is very interesting.

are Q5 better than Puppeee 4.3.1? .

yes this is a very naive question. the name of the game is bandwidth burning. which ever linux distribution burns the most bandwidth wins the race. Barry is aiming for another bandwidth citation from the bandwidth police to add to his extensive collection, he along with other notable names in the linux family have major investment in shares in bandwidth related companies. just dont go asking these silly questions again or pizzaisgod will be ban you from murga-linux or what's worse he will relentlessly and heartlessly change your most cherished avatar. you have been warned.
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jan 2010, 01:45    Post subject: Quirky Is A Test
Subject description: Quirky is a test OS		  
Quirky Is A Test Operating System.

Quirky is a TEST of new ways of doing things.
Each version is not an improvement of the last, but a different direction to take, with Puppy Linux.

USE IT ONLY TO HELP Barry Try New Ideas and Think Out Of The Box!!

Your feedback will let him know if he is going in the right direction.
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James C


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jan 2010, 01:49    Post subject:  
I did a frugal install of Quirky 005 on my P3 test box. PupRadio/PupTelly works fine, will play full screen with no problems.

I played wmv,flv and mp4 files in Mplayer, including fullscreen with no problems. Sound appears to be working correctly as well.

All settings were remembered on reboots so no real problems here yet..... Smile
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daftdog


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jan 2010, 03:19    Post subject:  
Touchpad settings not working (liveCD, acer laptop, 2 years old).
Changed Tap setting in xorg.conf not working. Also touchpad scrolling not working (horiz and vert). These usually work in other Puppies.
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jan 2010, 03:23    Post subject:  
01micko wrote:
Hi

I had no probs with mplayer in pupRadio/Telly.

BTW Barry, it's up to version 0.5 now. (pupRadio)


I have upgraded the PET package, so the next build of Quirky will have 0.5.

Note, as this will be a Quirky-specific package, and I seem to have settled on mplayer, I set the default in pupRadio to mplayer.
-- of course, you could have code that looks to see what is present and automatically chooses a default.
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jan 2010, 03:30    Post subject:  
panzerpuppy wrote:
Now this is weird: PPM shows 'sysfiles-0000' as a dependency for the 'mesa 7.6' package.

Puppy testers beware! Installing 'sysfiles-0000' will screw up your Puppy installation. Stay away from that package - DON'T click on it Smile


Hmmm, the 'sysfiles' dependency wasn't supposed to show. I thought that I had fixed PPM to ignore that dependency, as Puppy already has the equivalent functionality. Ok, I'll take another look at it.
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jan 2010, 04:02    Post subject:  
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QUIRKY HAS MOUNTED. QUIRKY HAS MOUNTED.
COUNT DOWN TO TAKE OFF WILL COMMENCE IN T- MINUS 3 HOURS.
ALL PERSONNEL TO DON SAFETY APPARATUS AND PROCEED IMMEDIATELY TO LAUNCH STATIONS .
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jan 2010, 05:44    Post subject: quirky-005
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I just did frugal install, added htop, conky, dillo. When desktop appears, I'm only using 26meg res memory. Pretty impressive. I've got 256meg ram with 466mhz. Everything is pretty snappy.

I pasted the France24 mms stream url in pupradio/puptelly and it played well at full screen. I played a flash video in seamonkey and everthing worked well there too.

Great Work! Shocked

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