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CrazyChick

Joined: 25 Dec 2009 Posts: 4 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri 25 Dec 2009, 19:18 Post subject:
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Okay I discovered Linux yesterday, Puppy Linux today. So apparently, there's this restricted user named Spot as someone on #irc told me... The ReadMe.txt file of that user in the system (under root/spot) says:
To change from root to user spot, type this:
# su spot
# cd ~
Or, do this:
# su --login spot
My question is - where am I supposed to type this into?
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bugman

Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2131 Location: buffalo commons
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Posted: Fri 25 Dec 2009, 22:56 Post subject:
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open a terminal, it's the icon on the top row that looks like a tv
tell us what it's like being spot, most of us just run as root
[we are reckless]
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Official Dog Handler

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 9850 Location: Arizona USA
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Posted: Fri 25 Dec 2009, 23:36 Post subject:
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Depending on how you run Puppy, and how you use it, there may be no advantage to run as user Spot. Do you run Puppy from the CD, or have you installed it on your hard disk drive? Does your computer have a DVD burner? Do you share a computer with other people? Have you been known to bork your computer? If you don't share, and practice safe computing, then there's really little reason to worry about running as root.
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dejan555

Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 2407 Location: Montenegro
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Posted: Sat 26 Dec 2009, 04:11 Post subject:
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True, true...
Whenever someone just says "Type this" they think of terminal (aka console / CLI (command line interface) )
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CrazyChick

Joined: 25 Dec 2009 Posts: 4 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat 26 Dec 2009, 12:14 Post subject:
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Thanks guys.
I have Puppy installed on my hard drive, my computer does not have a dvd reader let alone burner, and it is not really shared but family can just come in and boot it if they need it and that's the idea (since my main computer is like fort boyard with passwords I don't care to divulge). Also I occasionally surf some shady sites, so it's probably a good idea to at least give spot a go.
Thanks again. I'll report back.
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9389 Location: SwedenEurope
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Posted: Tue 15 Jun 2010, 15:45 Post subject:
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Hope It is ok to ask.
What is good with Spot. What does it do? I have used Puppy now since Dec 2009 and I had not heard of Spot or if I had heard the word I failed to get what it was about.
So what is it?
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dejan555

Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 2407 Location: Montenegro
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Posted: Tue 15 Jun 2010, 16:12 Post subject:
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It's a limited user which is in puppy by default but most users don't know/care
It can't run X though but you can run any app from terminal as limited user if you change to it first
Then anything launched from that terminal session will run as limited user, you can also pass command to run directly to su
| Code: | | su spot -c defaultbrowser |
And browser will run as user "spot" and not "root"
You may have not heard of spot user but you must have noticed directory /root/spot which is spot's home directory so app configurations go there (hidden directories, e.g. /root/spot/.mozilla will be created for seamonkey or firefox)
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9389 Location: SwedenEurope
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Posted: Wed 16 Jun 2010, 06:18 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | It (spot) can't run X though |
Aah, to run X is what noobs like me want to do. Sure I use CLI if it is the only way to do something but to run X is more conveniant if one have a poor memory for abbrevations and sequential order of things.
But doing everything in cli can be very effective if one know what one do though. So I am not discouraging those who have the talent for it. I've seen them in action on Unix since 1988
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dejan555

Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 2407 Location: Montenegro
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Posted: Wed 16 Jun 2010, 08:33 Post subject:
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Sorry, I didn't explain good.
You can run X apps as spot but you can't log in as spot and run X itself - that's mostly why puppy is not full multiuser.
when you switch to spot user in console you can launch X apps from that console but they will run with spot's priviledges (or non-priviledges )
So spot is not only for running CLI apps but it can't run X itself
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9389 Location: SwedenEurope
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Posted: Wed 16 Jun 2010, 13:01 Post subject:
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Would it make me safer if I use spot when I browse the internet?
So I can start any kind of program except the xwin? No desktop or menu only a prompt to write commands in? But would not Rox work as a kind of browser of files?
Hahah I am so chicken that I don't even dare to test because I have a good working version of quirky now so I don't want to screw that one up by accidently change anything being spot.
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Bruce B

Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 10818 Location: The Peoples Republic of California
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Posted: Wed 16 Jun 2010, 16:36 Post subject:
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| nooby wrote: | | Would it make me safer if I use spot when I browse the internet? |
I think the Golden Age of the Internet was circa 2000
Some say this is Web 2.0 or something like that. If true, when will
they release Web 2.1?
Or for that matter will they release it?
These days, I don't even recommend trusting pirates. I won't
mention device driver sites.
What is the question?
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