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Dpup482-beta5 testing
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shankargopal

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Dec 2009, 07:39    Post subject:  

gposil wrote:
shankargopal,

Your xorg.conf is loading the vesa driver, not the intel driver....


Sorry, that's because I uploaded the xorg.conf after I had changed it to vesa to allow me to start X again. The original xorg.conf (i.e. the one that was there when the problem occurred) was identical except it loaded the intel driver instead of vesa.
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Dec 2009, 07:43    Post subject:  

I was thinking 2.6.21.7 or maybe the old faithful 2.6.25.16...not sure, I was going to throw it open for discussion...now's as good a time as any....
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Dec 2009, 07:47    Post subject:  

gposil wrote:
I was thinking 2.6.21.7 or maybe the old faithful 2.6.25.16...not sure, I was going to throw it open for discussion...now's as good a time as any....


The former gets my vote, very nice on old p3s Smile

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jeffy39

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Dec 2009, 16:23    Post subject: Dpup482-b5 testing
Subject description: a few probs, requests
 

Howdy Dev. team, all,
Really like what I see in Dpup, thus far.
Problems:
Wine; no menu entry with 482 nor 4.30 using
both SFS and/or dpup pet.

ATI Radeon driver; tried to dl from Synaptic.
Get errors, 1 of which says 'need to have
'do_initrd' in kernel line?, something as such.

Virtual Box: would the best approach be a new pet,
or install thru Synaptic?

I am using default desktop, no Wbar. Have installed
patches.

Many thanks for your efforts. This should be the best Pup yet.
Sincerely, jw
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Dec 2009, 17:45    Post subject: Re: Dpup482-b5 testing
Subject description: a few probs, requests
 

Hello, jeffy39.

Welcome aboard ! And thanks for the compliments!
I'll try to answer two of your questions. (I've never used VBox.)

jeffy39 wrote:
Howdy Dev. team, all,
Really like what I see in Dpup, thus far.
Problems:
Wine; no menu entry with 482 nor 4.30 using
both SFS and/or dpup pet.

ATI Radeon driver; tried to dl from Synaptic.
Get errors, 1 of which says 'need to have
'do_initrd' in kernel line?, something as such.
[...]

Many thanks for your efforts. This should be the best Pup yet.
Sincerely, jw


Are you sure your Wine is loaded correctly? To get it working, I had to unpack the sfs in its own directory in $HOME (on an ext3 drive), and then symlink manually the sub-directories at their proper corresponding places in the Linux hierarchy. I'm pretty sure this manual solution will work, but it's a little chore.

Another solution might be to activate your Wine sfs through the bootloader as well as through the "sfs-linker".

Item # 2: I have a Radeon card on this machine, and didn't need any special driver: it worked "out of the box"! How old (or how new) is your Radeon card? A senior dpup dev might want to confirm this, but I don't think you need a driver with dpup's version of Xorg.

Best wishes of the Season, incidentally.

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Dec 2009, 18:31    Post subject:  

gposil wrote:
I was thinking 2.6.21.7 or maybe the old faithful 2.6.25.16...not sure, I was going to throw it open for discussion...now's as good a time as any....


2.14X uses 2.6.18.1 its old but a lot of users really find it stable and haven't complained, plus there are a lot of updated modules for it, thanks to MU and tempestuous, but 2.6.18.8 was used in puppy 2.18 woof and hasn't been all that tested but I guess it was updated up until around a year ago.
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Dec 2009, 18:32    Post subject:  

Just as an experiment in regard to the retro kernel, I dug out my slowest computer....a P3 433 mhz w/ 384 mb ram and no swap. (Presently has a Windows 98 install.)

Running live with 482 Beta 5 right now.......not the fastest but certainly usable. Only using about 40 mb ram at idle too. Smile Full disclosure, its using about 80 mb right now as I post this in Firefox.....

Since Etch has 2.6.18 and Lenny is at 2.6.26.2 I guess somewhere in the middle could work.Depends on how retro you want to go....
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Dec 2009, 05:03    Post subject:  

shankargopal, e17 also needs libiconv on clean boot, wouldn't start otherwise. Haven't tested it much but it runs Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Dec 2009, 05:42    Post subject:  

To confirm musher0's report... xorg has included the "radeon" driver for awhile. I think the "radeonhd" driver is also included. The "radeon" driver should support most older cards and the "radeonhd" driver newer cards. These drivers are free and open-source. There is also the proprietary driver FGLRX, provided for Linux by ATI/AMD. I'm pretty sure there are .debs in the debian repos fo ATI/AMD drivers (proprietary included) but they will not work with the dpup kernel. The only drivers you can use are drivers compiled for the Puppy 2.6.30.5 kernel. You can compile these yourself but you need the devx installed/loaded and the kernel source (available from puppylinux,com/sources).

More info can be found here http://www.x.org/wiki/radeon

Hope some of this info is helpful.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Wed 23 Dec 2009, 06:14    Post subject:  

My Radeon 9250 works fine with default xorg drivers and dri also works when libgl mesa installed. I also uncomment rage teathre option in xorg.conf and also force tvout so I can use tv-out with xorg. I can paste my xorg.conf if someone has similar card.
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Dec 2009, 08:24    Post subject:  

Dpup has the radeon and radeonhd kernel modules already built-in.
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Dec 2009, 11:11    Post subject:  

Hi, guys.

gposil wrote:
Dpup has the radeon and radeonhd kernel modules already built-in.


To jeffy39: Told ya! Very Happy We're very modest about it, but this thread IS Puppy User Heaven: one question, four answers! (Now where's the emoticon for the Puppy Angel?) Laughing

To Guy, Mick and dejan555: Thanks for the validations!

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PostPosted: Wed 23 Dec 2009, 11:38    Post subject:  

Maybe this post doesn't belong here, but concerning Puppy Angels... found a couple:

http://shop.thehungersite.com/store/product/image_200/35459.gif
http://www.crbeagles.com/images/design/angel_puppy.jpg

But tsk, tsk, they're copyrighted. Shouldn't the Puppy distro have its own Puppy Angel ? Smile

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PostPosted: Thu 24 Dec 2009, 06:57    Post subject:  

It's Christmas Eve night here in OZ, so i'd like to wish all Puppians and Dpup devs and testers a very Merry Christmas...stay safe and happy over the holiday period...


Best Wishes
Guy Pearson

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PostPosted: Thu 24 Dec 2009, 07:27    Post subject:  

Thanks Guy

Same to you, and all the best to all Puppy users and families.

Cheers

Mick

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