Dpup482-beta5 testing
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Restart JWM
Will a restart JWM be implemented later?
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Got it looking hunky-dory! Fun fun fun. Love wbar!
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Re: Restart JWM
Sorry Béèm, I forgot it...yes it will be in...Béèm wrote:Will a restart JWM be implemented later?
On another note, the APT/Synaptic addon will not be up till tomorrow, and there will also be a Cinelerra 4.1 addon for Dpup.
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Re: Restart JWM
I just found out as a circumvention, that going in jwm configuration can restart jwm as well.gposil wrote:Sorry Béèm, I forgot it...yes it will be in...Béèm wrote:Will a restart JWM be implemented later?
On another note, the APT/Synaptic addon will not be up till tomorrow, and there will also be a Cinelerra 4.1 addon for Dpup.
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SFS support
As far as I know dpup uses sfs4
Puppy 4.31 shows the non supported sfs's. Dpup don't do this?
With puppy 4.31 I converted a sfs 3 to sfs 4, but it isn't seen in the boot manager sfs selection panel. In puppy 4.31 it is seen and can be selected. Any idea how come?
Puppy 4.31 shows the non supported sfs's. Dpup don't do this?
With puppy 4.31 I converted a sfs 3 to sfs 4, but it isn't seen in the boot manager sfs selection panel. In puppy 4.31 it is seen and can be selected. Any idea how come?
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Here ya go!Looks great tubeguy, could you get me a copy of your background...
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Hello, everyone.
Ok, here's a report on my 1st try of dpup-beta5. This is the 1st time I'm doing this systematically, reflexively, with note-taking. So I don't how much of what I'm reporting are lacks / oversights in dpup, and how much of it are lacks / oversights upstream... NB This test is very incomplete.
WARNING [mimicking what is said on Canadian TV for some programs]: This post may provoke depression in viewers so inclined. Viewer discretion is advised.
In any case, here goes. Some good, some bad, some annoying.
Positive:
* screensaver (nice!)
* save to 1.5 Gb DVD-rw ok (great!)
* Abiword 2.8 (with conversion)
* new screenshot script & mini-window for choice of timing (very convenient)
* All programs under calculate sub-menu work fine. (Did this one as a spotcheck. Will check others later.)
Negative:
* Time zones
Canada/Eastern != GMT-5 (shoud be) Canada/Eastern takes me back 6 hours, indicates 12 pm when it should be 6 pm.
( Mind you, ZenWalk and a few others put the Montreal, Canada time zone in the middle of the Atlantic. Oh, well, our ancestors were mariners ! )
* CUPS: no USB port connection available for such printers. So still no printer available other than the CUPS-PDF.
* Asking for a clear screen at Startup still leaves all the disk icons. If you ask the pup-event script to leave only the "drives" icon in this "empty screen", it doesn't put it on, only the trash can remains.
Hm... Strange; it should be simple enough to have / create a completely empty PuppyPin in ROX using head and tail or echo and >>. Something like this structure:
head 3-4 first lines of PuppyPin > EmptyPuppyPin
tail last line of PuppyPin >> EmptyPuppyPin
rox -p=/root/Choices/ROX-Filer/EmptyPuppyPin
(Whatever programs that are on screen will stay there.)
jwm
* the jwm "add a button" feature does not seem to work
* script gives a "corrupt" message after 5 -6 times of changing and validating changes. So you have to do things manually again. (In all Puppies I've had, so this is not a dpup thing.)
* if you put jwm at top, title bars of programs slide under it, and programs become difficult to manage.
* right click on time in jwm bar does nothing. Checked ".jwmrc-tray" : clicking on the time should launch minixcal... Osmo's there, but where's minixcal?
* using htop, clicking on close button of jwm window does nothing. Luckily htop provides F10.
(If ever you were wondering why I prefer the echinus wm!
Well, now you know!)
Annoying:
* double eject of CD or DVD with save-to-CD option
* no item in control panel works... (work in progress?)
* nano editor not included (yikes!)
* only pburn as CD/DVD burning utility. I never had any luck burning isos to 1.5 Gb DVD's with it. Regression here since Puppy 3.01? It had 3 or 4: burniso2cd, tkburn (correct title?), and a couple of others?
* this posting, unfortunately...
That said, you still did a great job, gposil. Putting together a Puplet is never easy, as we all know. Thanks for accepting the task. Take heart. Italians have a proverb which applies nicely: "Criticism is easy, but art is difficult."
BFN
Ok, here's a report on my 1st try of dpup-beta5. This is the 1st time I'm doing this systematically, reflexively, with note-taking. So I don't how much of what I'm reporting are lacks / oversights in dpup, and how much of it are lacks / oversights upstream... NB This test is very incomplete.
WARNING [mimicking what is said on Canadian TV for some programs]: This post may provoke depression in viewers so inclined. Viewer discretion is advised.
In any case, here goes. Some good, some bad, some annoying.
Positive:
* screensaver (nice!)
* save to 1.5 Gb DVD-rw ok (great!)
* Abiword 2.8 (with conversion)
* new screenshot script & mini-window for choice of timing (very convenient)
* All programs under calculate sub-menu work fine. (Did this one as a spotcheck. Will check others later.)
Negative:
* Time zones
Canada/Eastern != GMT-5 (shoud be) Canada/Eastern takes me back 6 hours, indicates 12 pm when it should be 6 pm.
( Mind you, ZenWalk and a few others put the Montreal, Canada time zone in the middle of the Atlantic. Oh, well, our ancestors were mariners ! )
* CUPS: no USB port connection available for such printers. So still no printer available other than the CUPS-PDF.
* Asking for a clear screen at Startup still leaves all the disk icons. If you ask the pup-event script to leave only the "drives" icon in this "empty screen", it doesn't put it on, only the trash can remains.
Hm... Strange; it should be simple enough to have / create a completely empty PuppyPin in ROX using head and tail or echo and >>. Something like this structure:
head 3-4 first lines of PuppyPin > EmptyPuppyPin
tail last line of PuppyPin >> EmptyPuppyPin
rox -p=/root/Choices/ROX-Filer/EmptyPuppyPin
(Whatever programs that are on screen will stay there.)
jwm
* the jwm "add a button" feature does not seem to work
* script gives a "corrupt" message after 5 -6 times of changing and validating changes. So you have to do things manually again. (In all Puppies I've had, so this is not a dpup thing.)
* if you put jwm at top, title bars of programs slide under it, and programs become difficult to manage.
* right click on time in jwm bar does nothing. Checked ".jwmrc-tray" : clicking on the time should launch minixcal... Osmo's there, but where's minixcal?
* using htop, clicking on close button of jwm window does nothing. Luckily htop provides F10.
(If ever you were wondering why I prefer the echinus wm!
Well, now you know!)Annoying:
* double eject of CD or DVD with save-to-CD option
* no item in control panel works... (work in progress?)
* nano editor not included (yikes!)
* only pburn as CD/DVD burning utility. I never had any luck burning isos to 1.5 Gb DVD's with it. Regression here since Puppy 3.01? It had 3 or 4: burniso2cd, tkburn (correct title?), and a couple of others?
* this posting, unfortunately...
That said, you still did a great job, gposil. Putting together a Puplet is never easy, as we all know. Thanks for accepting the task. Take heart. Italians have a proverb which applies nicely: "Criticism is easy, but art is difficult."
BFN
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Thanks for report Christian...this is what we need to iron out all bugs...
OK...lets address some of these...
1.) TimeZone....bug in woof will fix...
2.) Cups...I don't get this problem, I have 2 usb printers, Canon ip3000 and HP Deskjet F2235, both show up in cups drop down when plugged in. (more investigation on this)
3.) I left the drive icons in the clearscreen option...I'll adjust that if you think that would be good.
4.) JWM add button...yes I had noticed that..an oversight on my part...bug to fix
5.) JWM top problem...bug to fix
6.) Right click on time...my fault, left it out...will fix.
7.) Htop not closing with window close button...I did that on purpose so you actually had to quit htop...if that is not a desirable feature, i'll adjust it.
8.) Double eject ...bug to fix
9.) Control panel...click text underneath icon...a new version with icon clickable as well is under way.
10.) Nano should be in Document menu...it is in mine...maybe i've done something wrong there could you confirm...
11.) Pburn/burniso2cd....burniso2cd is still there, as Pburn uses it...I can add menu entry back, but Zigbert tells me it works in Pburn now.
As I said...good report, keep them coming..
Cheers
Guy
OK...lets address some of these...
1.) TimeZone....bug in woof will fix...
2.) Cups...I don't get this problem, I have 2 usb printers, Canon ip3000 and HP Deskjet F2235, both show up in cups drop down when plugged in. (more investigation on this)
3.) I left the drive icons in the clearscreen option...I'll adjust that if you think that would be good.
4.) JWM add button...yes I had noticed that..an oversight on my part...bug to fix
5.) JWM top problem...bug to fix
6.) Right click on time...my fault, left it out...will fix.
7.) Htop not closing with window close button...I did that on purpose so you actually had to quit htop...if that is not a desirable feature, i'll adjust it.
8.) Double eject ...bug to fix
9.) Control panel...click text underneath icon...a new version with icon clickable as well is under way.
10.) Nano should be in Document menu...it is in mine...maybe i've done something wrong there could you confirm...
11.) Pburn/burniso2cd....burniso2cd is still there, as Pburn uses it...I can add menu entry back, but Zigbert tells me it works in Pburn now.
As I said...good report, keep them coming..
Cheers
Guy
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What worked:
Downloaded wine 1.1.33 in .deb format from Winehq. Clicked on file, it installed. Everything I threw at it in an .exe ran fine.
What didn't work:
Xvidtune still doesn't write a usable custom modeline for me in xorg.conf.
I still have to modify the name from something like "1680x1050" to "1680x1050blahblah" or "1680x1050vtpup" or anything other than an apparently protected standard resolution mode name.
I'm testing with an Nvidia graphics card using the standard puppy installed linux kernel driver -- not the nvidia proprietary driver.
Works fine when I change the name in 3 placed manually in xorg.conf as explained above.
EDIT: something else I'd like to mention if the above gets addressed.
In xvidtune the xvidtune window overlays the purple puppy explanation/help window. This help window should actually be readable while editing the xvidtune widow. Can the help window be moved so it's visible?
Downloaded wine 1.1.33 in .deb format from Winehq. Clicked on file, it installed. Everything I threw at it in an .exe ran fine.
What didn't work:
Xvidtune still doesn't write a usable custom modeline for me in xorg.conf.
I still have to modify the name from something like "1680x1050" to "1680x1050blahblah" or "1680x1050vtpup" or anything other than an apparently protected standard resolution mode name.
I'm testing with an Nvidia graphics card using the standard puppy installed linux kernel driver -- not the nvidia proprietary driver.
Works fine when I change the name in 3 placed manually in xorg.conf as explained above.
EDIT: something else I'd like to mention if the above gets addressed.
In xvidtune the xvidtune window overlays the purple puppy explanation/help window. This help window should actually be readable while editing the xvidtune widow. Can the help window be moved so it's visible?
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Thanks vtpup...Xvidtune is still not right....i'll post re-write when i'm finished it...sorry
The help window problem I will address also, an important point...
Good news on the Wine front, that make things easy...i'll include it in Dpup repository.
Thanks Again
The help window problem I will address also, an important point...
Good news on the Wine front, that make things easy...i'll include it in Dpup repository.
Thanks Again
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By the way, of course, sorry I didn't mention it first:
Good work!
Now, more results:
I chose not to have wbar on new installation. But then later to test setting it up after the frugal install I did the desktop>wbar config>start button, and then did a restart of X. Wbar didn't show up, but I did see the momentary flicker after a second or two that I recognize as wbar trying to start.
I tried the start button and X restart again, but it still didn't work.
Good work!
Now, more results:
I chose not to have wbar on new installation. But then later to test setting it up after the frugal install I did the desktop>wbar config>start button, and then did a restart of X. Wbar didn't show up, but I did see the momentary flicker after a second or two that I recognize as wbar trying to start.
I tried the start button and X restart again, but it still didn't work.
Hi all,
Just downloading now..
One issue with the web page Guy (dpup.org)
The main download link on the main page triggers the browser download. Now we all here know better and use wget. .. but how is Joe Average supposed to know that? It isn't stated on the main page. Perhaps a hot link to Windows version of wget would be handy too.
He clicks the link, it may (or may not) crap out after 10 minutes and he may (or may not) give up..
Just a thought.
Cheers
Just downloading now..
One issue with the web page Guy (dpup.org)
The main download link on the main page triggers the browser download. Now we all here know better and use wget. .. but how is Joe Average supposed to know that? It isn't stated on the main page. Perhaps a hot link to Windows version of wget would be handy too.
He clicks the link, it may (or may not) crap out after 10 minutes and he may (or may not) give up..
Just a thought.
Cheers
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vtpup...can you try Re-run First Start Wizard in Setup menu, and choose Wbar on and apply...and let me know result.vtpup wrote:By the way, of course, sorry I didn't mention it first:
Good work!
Now, more results:
I chose not to have wbar on new installation. But then later to test setting it up after the frugal install I did the desktop>wbar config>start button, and then did a restart of X. Wbar didn't show up, but I did see the momentary flicker after a second or two that I recognize as wbar trying to start.
I tried the start button and X restart again, but it still didn't work.
Cheers
Guy
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Gaackkkk!! It took out my desktop icons, my new wallpaper, and restarted X, killing a Gimp download from Ibiblio in the Puppy Package Manager. Back to square one!gposil wrote: vtpup...can you try Re-run First Start Wizard in Setup menu, and choose Wbar on and apply...and let me know result.
Cheers
Guy
Seems like we ought to be able to just start up wbar from the config, leaving the rest of our desktop alone.
Also, restarting X without a warning -- or better still, a choice -- is kinda irritating. Especially if you're working on the last chapter in your 500 page book, while uploading pix of your three year old's birthday from your digital camera.....
But by gosh, it did get wbar started....
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Hi gposil I came across a xmms/BMP Debian skin, figured you might like it. Its nice and small also.
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Arrrrgh...sorry about that vtpup...vtpup wrote:Gaackkkk!! It took out my desktop icons, my new wallpaper, and restarted X, killing a Gimp download from Ibiblio in the Puppy Package Manager. Back to square one!gposil wrote: vtpup...can you try Re-run First Start Wizard in Setup menu, and choose Wbar on and apply...and let me know result.
Cheers
Guy
Seems like we ought to be able to just start up wbar from the config, leaving the rest of our desktop alone.
Also, restarting X without a warning -- or better still, a choice -- is kinda irritating. Especially if you're working on the last chapter in your 500 page book, while uploading pix of your three year old's birthday from your digital camera.....
But by gosh, it did get wbar started....
I should have warned you, and yes you are right about just starting from Wbar config, but your test does tell me that the fix is easy.Have you tried the new Gimp version in beta5 addons...
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We may have to hack that one to a Dpup skin!ttuuxxx wrote:Hi gposil I came across a xmms/BMP Debian skin, figured you might like it. Its nice and small also.
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