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Posted: **Thu 19 Nov 2009, 18:41**

Was looking at this for an elderly relative
http://www.eldy.eu/

which you will need the java run time for and then
use

java -jar eldy.jar

from the command line

====================

Could it be made simpler for Puppy?
No Java . . . m m m . . .

I found a great tutorial ( H E L P )
- does it work outside the UK?

Does the E X I T work OK on your system?

How is the program run at startup
. . . it is some .rc file?

Hope it is of use

Should be very easy to adapt to your requirements . . .

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#! /bin/bash
# Noob by Lobster for Puppy Linux Nov 2009
# Computing interface for the elderly and NEW computer users

export Noob='
<window title="Click on pic" window-position="1">
<vbox>
 <hbox>
<text>
    <label>I N T E R N E T</label>
</text>
   <button>
         <input file>files/noob.png</input>
         <action>defaultbrowser http://www.google.co.uk/ "$@"</action>
   </button>
    <button>
         <input file>files/news.png</input>
         <action>defaultbrowser http://news.bbc.co.uk/ "$@"</action>
   </button>
   <text>
    <label>N E W S</label>
  </text>
 </hbox>
  <hbox>
      <text>
    <label>W E A T H E R</label>
 </text>
    <button>
         <input file>files/weather.gif</input>
         <action>defaultbrowser http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/ "$@"</action>
   </button>
    <button>
         <input file>files/email.gif</input>
           <action>defaultbrowser http://mail.google.com/ "$@"</action>
   </button>
  <text>
     <label>E M A I L</label>
  </text>
 </hbox>
  <hbox>
  <text>
    <label>T V</label>
  </text>
   <button>
         <input file>files/tv.png</input>
         <action>defaultbrowser http://www.youtube.com/ "$@"</action>
   </button>
   <button>
         <input file>files/typing.jpg</input>
         <action>exec abiword "$@"</action>
   </button>
    <text>
    <label>W R I T E</label>
   </text>
 </hbox>
  <hbox>
 <text>
    <label>H E L P</label>
 </text>
   <button>
         <input file>files/help.png</input>
         <action>defaultbrowser http://www.bbc.co.uk/computertutor/computertutorone/index.shtml "$@"</action>
   </button>
     <button>
         <input file>files/switch.jpg</input>
         <action>exec /usr/bin/wmpoweroff &</action>
   </button>
  <text>
    <label>E X I T   </label>
   </text>
 </hbox>
</vbox>
 </window>'

gtkdialog3 --program Noob
unset Noob

Posted: **Thu 19 Nov 2009, 20:36**

Lobster wrote:Was looking at this for an elderly relative
http://www.eldy.eu/

Could it be made simpler for Puppy?
No Java . . . m m m . .

Thanks for creating ut and making it available....it certainly is simple. It could also be used as a great starting point for a menu system. I appreciate you making it available.

Is it simpler than Eldy...Yep.

The advantage to Eldy is it can be simply installed on a windows machine(a large number of seniors I teach have windows machines that frustrate them.).

Can Eldy be easily installed in Puppy? Sure, I made an sfs file for that.

From a user perspective, Eldy offers communities for the senior...doesn't require a complicated registration for email or chat. From a support basis, Eldy is geared towards not only seniors, but folks that want to assist the seniors....

Thom

Posted: **Fri 20 Nov 2009, 06:49**

The advantage to Puppy is it can be simply installed on a windows machine

Posted: **Fri 20 Nov 2009, 11:22**

tlchost wrote: Can Eldy be easily installed in Puppy? Sure, I made an sfs file for that.

Thom

Hi tlchost, any chance you can share your sfs file with the community? This is a great opportunity to assist a close elderly relative with day to day problems on how to navigate, send emails, etc

Cheers

Posted: **Fri 20 Nov 2009, 12:34**

fsabatino wrote:
Hi tlchost, any chance you can share your sfs file with the community? This is a great opportunity to assist a close elderly relative with day to day problems on how to navigate, send emails, etc

Yes....when I get back to the office I will place it on puppylinux.us

Posted: **Fri 20 Nov 2009, 12:37**

tlchost wrote:
fsabatino wrote:
Hi tlchost, any chance you can share your sfs file with the community? This is a great opportunity to assist a close elderly relative with day to day problems on how to navigate, send emails, etc
Yes....when I get back to the office I will place it on puppylinux.us

Thanks. Looking forward to it!

Posted: **Sat 21 Nov 2009, 01:51**

I went to the puppylinux.us and it has been closed down. Is it possible to get the sfs of this file anyway?

It is exactly what I need,

Pete22

Posted: **Sat 21 Nov 2009, 03:20**

Pete22 wrote:I went to the puppylinux.us and it has been closed down. Is it possible to get the sfs of this file anyway?

I just got back
The url for the files is
http://www.puppylinux.us/files/

Once the sfs is loaded in then

1. Navigate to /usr/local/eldy
2. Right click on eldy.jar -> Set run action.
3. Where the dialog says "Enter a shell command:" type Code:
java -jar "$@"
4. Click "Use Command".
5. Drag the jar file to the desktop.

The sfs created with puppy4.3.1 and will be at this location for a limited time.

Thom

Posted: **Tue 24 Nov 2009, 01:40**

Hi! Downloaded and its working like a dream.
Thanks for posting this sfs for us.

Cheers!

Posted: **Tue 24 Nov 2009, 02:52**

Taken Noob, added Eldy and Tuxpaint and Jdarkroom
and made a 'quick and dirty' puplet ISO for 512MB and above computers
T w i n k l e
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 867#364867

Posted: **Thu 26 Nov 2009, 22:23**

I look after an Elderly persons XP machine, she's a dear soul. Never-the-less, she had to go into hospital. On her return home (couldnt get on the internet\forgot how to) she mentioned that she couldnt play some game that the she used to exercise her eye, or something like that. In the hospital she had to use a some special glasses to exercise the the eye and mentioned the game to the doctor, whom, apparently was impressed. I cant remember the game, but i will find out. She is a big fan of solitaire games.

If all the above is true and there is some medical merit in these machines for our mother\grandmothers then it could warrant investigating.

There again it could mean didly squat. Who knows?.

Someone does.

Posted: **Fri 27 Nov 2009, 07:49**

fsabatino wrote:Hi! Downloaded and its working like a dream.

Version 2.2 of Eldy is targetted fir release around Christmas. One of
the improvements will be improved language files for the new Eldy-UK and Eldy-US flavors.

I'm working on the US language file and trimming out some of the bad translations and making it less geeky. I'm forced to do this in Windows(see information below).

I've noticed, and reported to the Eldy developers that the Linux version does not read the external language file, but rather a file contained in eldy.jar.

If someone knows how to edit the contents of a jar file in Puppy, I would be happy to update the language file and make the updated sfs file available.

Thom

Posted: **Fri 27 Nov 2009, 08:13**

'jar' files are simply zip files or archives, so you can unpack it with 'unzip', edit and then rezip and rename.

Posted: **Fri 27 Nov 2009, 19:07**

amigo wrote:'jar' files are simply zip files or archives, so you can unpack it with 'unzip', edit and then rezip and rename.

Thanks....it seemed that when I attempted to unzip it, there were messages about files would be overwritten....I'll try again.

Thom

Posted: **Sun 06 Dec 2009, 17:31**

What code can I add to close Noob, rather than shut down the entire computer.

Thanks

Thom

Posted: **Sun 06 Dec 2009, 19:22**

add this

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 <hbox>
        <button cancel></button>
  </hbox>

just before this

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</vbox>
 </window>'

Posted: **Mon 28 Dec 2009, 11:37**

Hi Thom,

Eldy 2.2 has been released. Could you please put together the corresponding sfs or tell me how I go about doing it?

Thanks buddy

Posted: **Tue 29 Dec 2009, 03:21**

fsabatino wrote: Eldy 2.2 has been released. Could you please put together the corresponding sfs

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 856#375856

Posted: **Wed 12 Feb 2014, 01:48**

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#! /bin/bash
# Noob by Lobster for Puppy Linux Nov 2009
# Computing interface for the elderly and NEW computer users

export Noob='
<window title="Click on pic" window-position="1">
<vbox>
 <hbox>
<text>
    <label>I N T E R N E T</label>
</text>
   <button>
         <input file>files/noob.png</input>
         <action>defaultbrowser http://www.google.co.uk/ "$@"</action>
   </button>
    <button>
         <input file>files/news.png</input>
         <action>defaultbrowser http://news.bbc.co.uk/ "$@"</action>
   </button>
   <text>
    <label>N E W S</label>
  </text>
 </hbox>
  <hbox>
      <text>
    <label>W E A T H E R</label>
 </text>
    <button>
         <input file>files/weather.gif</input>
         <action>defaultbrowser http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/ "$@"</action>
   </button>
    <button>
         <input file>files/email.gif</input>
           <action>defaultbrowser http://mail.google.com/ "$@"</action>
   </button>
  <text>
     <label>E M A I L</label>
  </text>
 </hbox>
  <hbox>
  <text>
    <label>T V</label>
  </text>
   <button>
         <input file>files/tv.png</input>
         <action>defaultbrowser http://www.youtube.com/ "$@"</action>
   </button>
   <button>
         <input file>files/typing.jpg</input>
         <action>exec abiword "$@"</action>
   </button>
    <text>
    <label>W R I T E</label>
   </text>
 </hbox>
  <hbox>
 <text>
    <label>H E L P</label>
 </text>
   <button>
         <input file>files/help.png</input>
         <action>defaultbrowser http://www.bbc.co.uk/computertutor/computertutorone/index.shtml "$@"</action>
   </button>
     <button>
         <input file>files/switch.jpg</input>
         <action>exec /usr/bin/wmpoweroff &</action>
   </button>
  <text>
    <label>E X I T   </label>
   </text>
 </hbox>
</vbox>
 </window>'

gtkdialog3 --program Noob
unset Noob

Since its been 2 years since the last response in eldy and the project appears amazing yet dead how do i use this code you created i tried copying to a noob.sh into my startup folder in puppy and tried noob.rc but both gave an error of invalid file i am completely a linux retard but trying to setup something for my mother so she can see the pc again easier now that her vision is impaired and that text to speach thing from microsoft is just so annoying and useless. [/code]

Posted: **Wed 12 Feb 2014, 02:21**

You should just need to put it in a file (doesn't necessarily need a .sh extension, although .rc would be strange) and change the permissions to make it executable.
What do you mean by "gave an error"? Did you see the error in a terminal or in some window which popped up?

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