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Sit Heel Speak · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind

Download:
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/SitHeelSpeak/2.6.31.6-rt19-kernel-and-lib.tgz
user=puppy password=linux
Size: 39,023,664 bytes
md5sum:
8a238e9078f58aa8fa11ea0c399dc0ad 2.6.31.6-rt19-kernel-and-lib.tgz

Warning: The usual disclaimer. Try this kernel only if you know what you're doing and are capable of booting from another Puppy to restore things in case it blows up. It has full printk turned on, so be aware that you will see a lot of logging messages.

Second warning: this kernel breaks the XOrg which is supplied with Karmic Woof. I will post a correctly-compiled XOrg in a day or two.

I tested it on a full install of ttuuxxx's Karmic Woof UPup-450. This is the kernel I describe at
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=48666&start=30#363009

I am supplying it as a .tgz to discourage people from treating it as an ordinary PET package.

Known faults: The Toshiba laptop extras are broken. Not sure if ndiswrapper works or not. Eicon network adapters probably won't work.

I must retract the statement I made in the other thread, about Seamonkey being more stable with this kernel. The Seamonkey which is supplied with Karmic Woof is not more stable.

However, I am finding that the combination of this kernel plus my heavily-patched gcc...is a winner.

If someone will tell me where I can download the complete Debian kernel patchset for 2.6.31.n, preferably 2.6.31.6, or if that's nonexistent then I'll settle for 2.6.30.n, --surely it is somewhere within http://debian.osuosl.org/debian/? (***edited: never mind, found them***) --then I will release this kernel with the Debian patchset, as well as the Ubuntu Karmic Koala 9.10 2.6.31-14.48 patchset (which it has).

playdayz · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 3705

I tested first in a full install of 4.3.1--yes, that was by accident--i forgot which was where. It booted. Xorg worked. I was using a radeon driver posted by aragon (I think--I 'll check). Network Wizard did not work for my Belkin Wireless USB. An anomaly was that the Wireless Wizard showed eth) and wlan0 as normal + 2 firewire ports that I have (which it does not usually). The wlan0 did not work--it could not bring the network up with ifconfig wlan0 up.

I then installed the 2.6.31.6 on a 4.32 full install. It booted. Xorg Worked. 0n this one I have the ati proprietary fglrx driver 9.10 that I compiled. It now has a problem with scrolling, especially upward, being very slow and jerky--the Ubuntu fglrx driver had this same problem which was fixed when I compiled my own. Also Xorgwizard made some errors in the xorg.conf file--I now have three Section: Device with different drivers, vesa, radeonhd, and fglrx. Come to think of it I am not sure which is running fglrx or radeonhd, but not vesa as the refresh is 85Hz. I had the same problem with the wirelss networking, could not bring network up. I connected the eth0 and that did work--i am using it now to post. GL is not running however so no glxinfo.. I would need the kernel sources and devx to try to (re)compile the ati driver.

SRWare Iron 4.0.227 for linux is running. Desktop looks right. All the basic programs start and run. The scrolling is the only slowdown. After I post I will try to adjust the video driver.

I am back now. I reverted the xorg.conf to the previous, with the radeonhd driver downloaded from Ubuntu package repo. Video is working nicely, no scrolling slowdown. This is a Radeon HD 3850.

Things seem fast, but this computer always seems pretty fast with Puppy (Phenom 9850, 2,8GHz). Certainly no slower than 2.6.30.5.

Anything I can check for you? The only show stopper is the Wireless not working. I think the problem with scrolling might be what happens when one uses a fglrx that is not exactly right for the OS--fixed by compiling or getting exact version. This has the gcc_devx pup you made and kernel sources will come along eventually.

Lately I have been installing the devx routinely (some things seem to run better--crossover in particular), and the latest success with the ati proprietary driver makes me think to compile anything I can (the old gentoo in me Wink

Therefore a Puppy with modern tweaked compiling features seems like a good thing.

GLX should be working--I have added the necessary files and it worked with the other kernel--so xorg is broken there.

Does this only work with a full install? I have tried to install in 4.50, which is a frugal install, but it will not boot. I get a fatal error "cannot load /lib/2,6,31..../dep.mod, no such file ...."

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Sit Heel Speak · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind

Hi playdayz, thanks very much for testing. I'm curious what would happen if you recompile fglrx under this kernel.

Sit Heel Speak · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind

playdayz · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 3705

I did one more experiment, a full install of 4.50 to see if there were any significant differences between it and 4.32 vis a vis your kernel. Basically not. It booted. Xorg worked the first time, with vesa. Network Wizard still did not pick up my wireless (4.50 with the 2.6.30.5 kernel does install the wireless automatically); eth0 worked. And oh yes, the browser crashed immediately until I deleted flashplayer 10, just like with 4.50 2.6.30.5. I was able to install the ubuntu xorg_server_radeonhd and manually edit xorg.conf and the radeonhd driver worked fine.

To compile the ati proprietary driver I would need the kernel sources--so that will wait until you have the patches down.

This was great fun. Keep it up!

Sit Heel Speak · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind

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playdayz · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 3705

hey SHS, don't sweat the belkin if you have some productive work to do on the kernel. I will try the suggestions tomorrow

Anyway, I was just reporting some slight info on speed. I use the Peacekeeper browser benchmark a lot, to compare different tweaks, different configurations, different cpu speeds, and so forth. It is a common factor. So, I ran Peacekeeper in Iron in 4.50 with the only difference being the two kernels. With the 2.6.30.5 I got a 4,000--this is my typical setup and typical score. With the 2.6.31.6 I got 3,800, which seems good considering the debugging settings as you say (higher score is better).

I also installed the 4 glx files from ubuntu: mesa-dri, mesa-glx, mesa-utiltities, etc. And the radeonhd driver also from ubuntu, and glx is working with the 2.6.31.6 in 4.50.

sikpuppy · Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 433

My belkin uses the ZD1211rw module. I did find that the module that comes with both Puppy 4.31 and also Ubuntu 9.10 is a bit flaky anyway.

I compiled my own wireless drivers from the latest sources and it worked a lot better.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/zd1211/develop
This would have to be compiled against whatever kernel you want to use.

In any case, using a RT kernel with wireless is a bit silly, since the less drivers and services the better, I would have thought Razz

Sit Heel Speak · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind

playdayz · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 3705

just for reference, wireless,

my belkin wireless g usb needs zd1211rw, which *is* being loaded by 2.6.31.6.

Then it appears that zd1211rw needs mac80211 and cfg80211, which are not present in lsmod.in 2.6.31.6

Here how it looks in lsmod from 2.6.30.5 in 4.50.

zd1211rw 44816 0
mac80211 166056 1 zd1211rw
cfg80211 64972 2 zd1211rw,mac80211

Sit Heel Speak · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind

plaguedogs · Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 60

i installed it on my spup and is working well (so far) i used it on a full hd in a virtualbox, so we will see what happens when i get it running on real hardware with a frugal install, and xorg. ill post back when i break something. i would like to drop this into woof as well.

wishfull thinking.

pd

plaguedogs · Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 60

i have this kernel running on real hardware, it all works good. xorg, wireless, i even have firewire drivers (which ive never had before). my sound doesnt work, but its been broken since 2.6.30.5.

when i booted my virtual box, i was able to watch the very verbose messages. a split second flash to the puppy boot splash with weird colours, yellow pink and green. then it would go back to verbose messaging.

on my real hardware, i get about 20seconds of boot messages then my screen blacked out untill the little white "x" shows up, you know....the mouse cursor when xwin starts.

i tried to hack it into woof, after a few tries i had an iso.... kernel panic.
btw, im using spup-451 full hd, i built it yesterday.

Sit Heel Speak · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind

What is the sound system?

I'm still refining the DOTconfig. The original, breaks PNetHood, but I have solved that problem. Now the networking switches are fairly close to what Barry uses, and I've restored most of the drivers to modules which people are used to seeing in lsmod.

Still applying the Debian patchset...

plaguedogs · Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 60

im running a dell inspirion 1525 notebook. intel duo core, onboard video and sound.

the module is snd_hda_intel. it is loaded at boot and shows up in lsmod. just like with k 2.6.30.5, the system really thinks sound is working, i just cant hear it.
heres the first few lines of /proc/asound/card0/codec#2