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#46 Post by steve_s »

Ok, I started back over, from scratch.

I have it to where it boots ever time and saves ever time I want it to.

I am redoing the exe file...it's got usbflash on it too. 8)

Let me test it a little more and hack a little bit more before I post it...

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#47 Post by Sylvander »

Regarding PROBLEM3:

1. A WakePup2 floppy made using the normal method within BoxPup exhibits the same problem symptoms. :?
e.g.
(a) I formatted a floppy within BoxPup.
(b) Used the WakePup2 program to write the necessary files to the floppy.
(c) Rebooted with the floppy in its drive, and the USB Flash Drive in place.
(d) The blue LED on the Flash Drive was constantly lit and unblinking.
(e) The process twice halted immediately prior to the point where the Puppy files are loaded off the Flash Drive.
[I hit Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart]
(f) At some point during the 2nd attempt, the blue LED began flashing.
I knew from past experience that this is a good sign, and I could now expect success at the next attempt.
(g) At the beginning of the 3rd attempt, the LED was unblinking, but at a certain point it began blinking, and the files began loading, and Puppy booted successfully.

2. Is this a problem with my hardware or what?

3. I notice that on a neighbours PC...
[I'm showing him Puppy booting from an optical disk and Flash Drive, on his PC]
When the identical boot process got to the same point [of loading the files off the Flash Drive], his PC gives a constant/unvarying [rather quiet] beep tone.
Sound like a warning of something.
His PC's BIOS [like mine] doesn't support booting USB.

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#48 Post by T_Hobbit »

Are you using acpi=off option? Or pci=noacpi?
I remembered just now that on my old laptopn I had a similar problem with 4.3.1.
I solved it by using one of that options to boot correctly and I needed to had xorgwizard rightly finished to see the question about saving on shutdown.
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#49 Post by Sylvander »

1. "Are you using acpi=off option? Or pci=noacpi?"
(a) I don't even know what that means.
OK, looked it up in Wikipedia.
That's enabled in my PC's BIOS I believe, and so far as I know no configuration has been made to switch it off in any Puppy.
I have it enabled in Win2000Pro.

(b) I have never previously had PROBLEM3 with any Puppy I've ever run; this is the only one.
Mind you, Puppy 4.2.1-rc3 is the only other I run from a Flash Drive, and it has always saved normally.

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#50 Post by T_Hobbit »

The new Puppy versions have a kernel that doesn't work that good with old hardware.

Edit your syslinux.cfg and you must see something like

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default vmlinuz initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash fastboot
Add acpi=off to the end. If it doesn't work, try pci=noacpi.
Remember that if you xorgvesa, you must finish the selection by pressing "done" (or whatever "say" the other button but "change"...).
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#51 Post by Sylvander »

Here's the contents of my syslinux.cfg
What do you think this aught to be changed to?

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default puppy
display boot.msg
prompt 1
timeout 50

F1 boot.msg
F2 help.msg

label puppy
kernel vmlinuz
append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=cd

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#52 Post by steve_s »

Sylvander: yeah, it's a hardware issue. That's the adventure of WakePup2 is it is a little different on different hardware. In other words, I am posting this from one of the computers at work, WakePup works great usb saves, etc.

At home, WakePup2 works different on different computers that I have, one I've gotta hit 5, the other just enter, one won't work with that usb at all on that pc, etc.

Sounds like T_Hobbit is giving you good instruction, though.

I am thinking of also making a boot cd exe....but one thing at a time... :wink:

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#53 Post by T_Hobbit »

Try

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append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash acpi=off
or

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append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash pci=noacpi
If the computer still "beep" along the way, try also the "quiet" option (add quiet to the end of that line)... Just to check! :)
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#54 Post by Sylvander »

Tried replacing the existing line of code beginning append, first with the top line you supplied, then with the bottom, but neither made any difference. :(

My PC doesn't beep, so no need to add that in my own case.

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#55 Post by T_Hobbit »

Sylvander wrote:Tried replacing the existing line of code beginning append, first with the top line you supplied, then with the bottom, but neither made any difference. :(

My PC doesn't beep, so no need to add that in my own case.
Not replace. Add to the line.
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#56 Post by Sylvander »

1. "Not replace. Add to the line."
(a) What I did was to replace...

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append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=cd
with this...

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append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash acpi=off
Then instead with this...

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append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash pci=noacpi
(b) Surely you don't mean the line of code should look like this...

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append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=cd append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash acpi=off
Or this...

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append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=cd append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash pci=noacpi

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#57 Post by T_Hobbit »

Yes, you're right. I shall not make a post when I'm sleepy!

I've been wondering... Wakepup make use of syslinux.cfg on the flash drive...?
I never use wakepup but... probably the boot option must be changed on the wakepup floppy instead...
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#58 Post by Sylvander »

There isn't any syslinux.cfg file on the normal/functional WakePup2 floppy.

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#59 Post by T_Hobbit »

You may try to open the small files of wakepup to see if any has a similar look...
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#60 Post by Sylvander »

Avoided exe and com files.
Took a look inside bat and sys files.

Saw nothing interesting or that might apply to this problem. :(

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#61 Post by T_Hobbit »

Sylvander wrote:(b) I have never previously had PROBLEM3 with any Puppy I've ever run; this is the only one.
Mind you, Puppy 4.2.1-rc3 is the only other I run from a Flash Drive, and it has always saved normally.
Old computer, right? We are using Puppy 4.3.1, right?
I had this problem booting old laptop with the normal 4.3 and 4.3.1. I solved the problem turning to old kernel versions...
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#62 Post by Sylvander »

1. "Old computer, right?"
Correct.
Compaq Deskpro EN built 1999.

2. "We are using Puppy 4.3.1, right?"
Correct.

3. "I had this problem booting old laptop with the normal 4.3 and 4.3.1"
I had trouble with 4.3-k2.6.30.5, so had to use k2.6.25.16 which worked OK.
I use ttuuxxx's retro version of 4.31.1, and that works well.
Normally the problem I'd see is that the problem Puppy couldn't see my HDD, because it's connected via a PCI to IDE SCSI RAID controller card.

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#63 Post by T_Hobbit »

I'm supposing that... This will not work for you... I'm mean, with the nrmal Puppy4.3.1. Must be with 4.3.1small or 4.3.1 old kernel version's...
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#64 Post by Sylvander »

In which case, all's well.

All I wanted to do was to check that the system/method worked, and apparently it does. :D

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#65 Post by steve_s »

Original post updated with new exe file.

Also link provided in original post about WakePup2 exe.

Also link provided on cd designed only to boot Puppy 4.3.1 usb flash drive. 8)

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