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Puppy Linux Windows Users: exe installer programs
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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Jan 2010, 03:19    Post_subject:  

Yes it will.

I used it within Win2000Pro and it worked just fine. Very Happy
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Jelly Bean

Joined: 15 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Jan 2010, 21:57    Post_subject: exe installer download link
Sub_title: not working
 

Puppy to flash drive downloads not working. Wondering if the links need to be fixed?
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tubby

Joined: 24 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan 2010, 07:33    Post_subject:  

Hi Steve, i have used your exe download to install puppy on a friends computer and there was a small error on booting.
The machine is an HP Pavilion that has pre installed win xp os, now the pre install is on hd0 and windows is on hd1,so there was no boot as the menu list was looking for hd0. It was easy enough to correct the error but maybe a windows convert may not find the problem so easy.
Thanks for the program it is a keeper.
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan 2010, 09:56    Post_subject:  

Quote:
now the pre install is on hd0 and windows is on hd1,


this may be due to the presense of a recovery partition (where's my windows cd I paid for it!!!!)

mike
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tubby

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan 2010, 10:53    Post_subject:  

Mike you are correct, but it does throw the installation as i posted.
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steve_s


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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan 2010, 12:36    Post_subject:  

tubby wrote:
Mike you are correct, but it does throw the installation as i posted.


Hmmm...I may have to mention something about that in the original post...most windows converts don't even have a grasp of the partitioning concept, and I don't want to scare them away with too many details, but that one may need mentioning....thanks tubby and Mike for clarifying.

Jellybean: did you get that link working? Which one specifically is out of whack? One was a more temporary file, but one of 'em should be good for some time....
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linbie

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan 2010, 19:51    Post_subject:  

steve_s wrote:
tubby wrote:
Mike you are correct, but it does throw the installation as i posted.


Hmmm...I may have to mention something about that in the original post...most windows converts don't even have a grasp of the partitioning concept, and I don't want to scare them away with too many details, but that one may need mentioning....thanks tubby and Mike for clarifying.

Jellybean: did you get that link working? Which one specifically is out of whack? One was a more temporary file, but one of 'em should be good for some time....


In encountered the same problem - read about my trials and tribulations here.

In the process of solving the issue I learned a lot - Laughing

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Dell Inspirion 2500, 900MHz Celeron, 20GB HDD, 128MB RAM, CD/DVD Player, Netgear USB wireless adapter

Puppy 4.3.1 frugal dual boot with WIN XP
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steve_s


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PostPosted: Fri 22 Jan 2010, 09:54    Post_subject:  

linbie wrote:

In encountered the same problem - read about my trials and tribulations here.

In the process of solving the issue I learned a lot - Laughing


Good stuff, linbie...just Bruce B's idea of making a pupsave manually to use ext3 is worth the thread; still trying to figure that out. Good stuff.
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Fri 22 Jan 2010, 15:52    Post_subject:  

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Good stuff, linbie...just Bruce B's idea of making a pupsave manually to use ext3 is worth the thread; still trying to figure that out. Good stuff.

If thats what I think you mean puppy will still only mount it as ext2.

I have modified the initrd.gz to mount as ext3 and also reiserfs.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51410
just for testing purposes but been using ext3 on puppy 4.12 for a little while now.

As for recovery partitions I believe I suggested an option should pop up or at least a warning to the user that this may be the case and perhaps give the opportunity to alter the menu.lst if they now there is such a partition.(or even have 2 entries with a try this if the other will not boot sort of thing)

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finix

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Apr 2010, 07:57    Post_subject: Re: Puppy Linux 4.3.1 for Windows Users: exe installer programs
Sub_title: Just try the exe file for a frugal install, a usb install, WakePup2, and more
 

steve_s wrote:
This idea (at least in my head) started from this thread, so props to T_Hobbit and zandarian for the specifics on how to get the pen drive booting.

Thanks to forum member "seeker" for putting together the assembler for the PuppyInstaller idea. Great job!

I just thought Windows users want to be able to double click something and it gets installed. Horribly simple.

So using stuff from those threads and other sources I did a few exe files. Please see the attached picture for an idea about one of them. All that one does is take the stuff that is needed and puts it onto a designated location, in this case, a flash drive.

All these need to be tested! They have worked really well on a vfat (fat32) usb flash drive (for the flash drive exe) and on NTFS WinXP for the Windows Puppy 431 Installer. Please take them, test them and give feedback.

PLEASE MIRROR so that we can get these tested, make sure it is solid, then share it with everyone! Cool

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Window's Users
What to do with these? The goal is that a standard Window's user would just download this, run it, install, then give Puppy a try.

**Updated: 12/04/09
Want to install Puppy to your Windows XP computer just with one program?
Download: click here. (This link works in Internet Explorer and Firefox. For information on downloading with other browsers check zandarian's post near the end of the thread, currently page 6)
This exe installer program takes Puppy 4.3.1 and does a frugal install (just makes a single folder on the drive and puts the needed files there), modifies the Windows bootloader (just adds one line of text to it) and makes a WinXP install able to boot Puppy Linux 4.3.1. Download it, install it, reboot into Puppy, give Puppy a try. If you like it, keep it; doesn't do anything to your Windows install or change any of it's files, so Windows stays the same. If you don't want Puppy, in Windows just go to add/remove programs and uninstall it. Just that simple. Cool

MIRROR (Alternative download) 1: click here. Thanks scabz!

**Updated: 11/26/09
Want to put Puppy on a Flash drive via a Window's install program?
download: click here Please observe same limitations on available browsers as with the aforementioned WinXP installer download.

MIRROR (Alternative download) 1: click here. Thanks scabz!

Need to Boot USB from a floppy? Try this:
Here is the link for WakePup2 boot floppy exe file. This will install WakePup2 to a ready to go floppy disk. Please look further in this thread for more details if necessary.

MIRROR (Alternative download) 1: click here. Thanks scabz!

Need to Boot USB from a cd? Try this:
Download this iso file; it is very small 4-5MB (same browser restrictions on this download site as the usb exe download). Then burn the iso image to a cd and use it to boot from. Don't have a cd burning program in Window's? Might try this free one (I do Cool ). The only purpose of this cd is to boot a Puppy Linux 4.3.1 usb flash drive.

MIRROR (Alternative download) 1: click here. Thanks scabz!

Want to do some other iso than Puppy 4.3.1?
Well, for right now,UNetbootin has a good look and may work great. It is designed to allow you to take any iso and put it on your usb; it is the next best thing to having Puppy do it for you, it seems. For right now UNetbootin may be a great source for installing other isos (thanks to forum member TomRhymer suggestion).

Please tell me what you think. Cool


thx a lot
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finix

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Apr 2010, 08:01    Post_subject:  

thx, very useful
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2byte

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Jun 2010, 11:09    Post_subject:  

Is anyone still working on these exe installers?

This tweaked my interest so I tracked down seeker's files and looked at the basic code. As tubby reported above the code defaults to using (hd0,0) and relies on the user to manually change this if needed. However it occurs to me that boot.ini might be parsed for the correct partition. My XP, on (hd0,0), boot.ini looks like this
Code:
 [boot loader]

timeout=30

default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

So why not get the disk and partition info from this and adjust things? Wouldn't it be disk(0) and partition(1) that need checking?

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DaveWBX

Joined: 19 Jun 2010
Posts: 14

PostPosted: Sat 03 Jul 2010, 17:04    Post_subject:  

What us time served windows types need, is some comprehensive cross reference between what we want to do (and know how to on w'doze) to get the same (or as close as) result in Puppy.

For example, installing a program, and creating a shortcut that works etc. Manually. There are many truly good bits of software out there, that do not and never will have a .pup or .pet installer.

We need to know from first principles how to do it the old school way. Sadly, the helps (local or net based) have long ago lost that info.

I know how to import a project source tree, configure, make, make install etc on other linux's too. But where to get the needed development files and tools in Puppy? There seem to be no .pup's or .pets with all that stuff.

Puppy is nice and easy to use, with what's there, or already "Pup'ed" and ready for it, but it's just soooooooooooo time consuming and frustrating to get anything else working.

I've just spent most of this Saturday, getting Puppy onto a hard drive, and trying to get a Java app to run, unsuccessfully so far (the .jar is not associated with the JRE is my best guess) Where as, in parallel with that, I've reloaded Vista onto two machines for friends, and done both service packs (not without issues) on each, and all the updates etc. They work, I still can't get my wanted app to run on Puppy!..

Going up the pub now!

Cheers.

Dave.
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nooby

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Location: SwedenEurope

PostPosted: Sat 03 Jul 2010, 18:27    Post_subject:  

Dave, use this search and try to find the threads where develoeprs of pets describe how they do it and looks at the puppy wikka too

http://www.wellminded.com/puppy/pupsearch.html

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DaveWBX

Joined: 19 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jul 2010, 06:45    Post_subject:  

Thanks Nooby.

That search works much better than the php forums own, thanfully. Some help learnt already.

I have to wonder (as it's my work too, in a way) if anyone collates the results of the searches, as for example, it seems "how to create a shortcut" (or similar) is a very common question. OK, it's been answered many many times or so it seems, but that sort of implies that the help system could be much better, or something else done to reduce new users need to ask that (and similar) questions. Perhaps time served Pup keepers are too close to the system to appreciate it?

Thanks again anyway. I now have a shortcut, but the app still doesnt work!.. Oh well.

Dave.
(G0WBX)
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