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Tazarch - Building Slitaz-Packages from Arch pkgbuild
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aragon

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 05:12    Post subject:  Tazarch - Building Slitaz-Packages from Arch pkgbuild
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I read about it today a kmandlas blog: http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/11/05/things-we-all-know/

It's a tool for building Slitaz-Packages from Arch pkgbuild. URL: http://labs.slitaz.org/projects/show/tazarch

Is this something that is interesting to adapt for puppy?
Is it possible to adapt?

please comment!

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 05:39    Post subject: Re: Tazarch - Building Slitaz-Packages from Arch pkgbuild
Subject description: Is this interesting for Puppy
 

aragon wrote:
I read about it today a kmandlas blog: http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/11/05/things-we-all-know/

It's a tool for building Slitaz-Packages from Arch pkgbuild. URL: http://labs.slitaz.org/projects/show/tazarch

Is this something that is interesting to adapt for puppy?
Is it possible to adapt?

please comment!

aragon


I would say yes and no, yes you adapt just about anything to puppy and no because Arch uses the latest backends, I would say glibC would be too outdated, etc
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 07:51    Post subject:  

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I would say yes and no, yes you adapt just about anything to puppy and no because Arch uses the latest backends, I would say glibC would be too outdated, etc

In other words linux obseletes itself every few months......and people complain about windows updates Very Happy ...first thing I disable after installing.
Not sure where this 'puppy compatible with every distro ' is heading...surely compiling just for puppy should be the way ...or is this considered too unreliable...broken gtk2 comes to mind?

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 07:59    Post subject:  

naaaa mike Arch oudates itself Smile look at slackware, they change about every 2yrs, Slackware 11, 12 was around for a long time. Arch is really a different type of Linux, some might go as far as to say a heartless distro. They don't cater for older versions like we do. etc
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 08:03    Post subject:  

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some might go as far as to say a heartless distro


that would explain the state of some of its well known advocates... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 11:55    Post subject:  

aragon
Quote:
Is this something that is interesting to adapt for puppy?
is it possible to adapt?

please comment!


Hey aragon I already packaged it if you want to test it out PM me
A big thanks for the tip Cool
I dis assembled slitaz when it came out but didnt think I could cross over the package tools , but after doing it for slackware
I gave it another try and got it working
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Building Slitaz-Packages from Arch pkgbuild

how about installing tazpkg on puppy ! Done! Laughing

*I was interested in slackware packages *
but you could also install from arch

Joe
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 12:16    Post subject:  

Where's the beef, Joe? I mean, send me a copy!

mikeb, you are absolutely right in my book -especially because Puppy "goes its' own way" in so many things, the right thing to do is build it all from scratch. Yes it is a lot of work, but is the *only* way to control the outcome. There are tools which make it a lot easier. If only we had a sensible package standard and tools to work with them -we have a "new" package standard and an all-new toold for installing packages, but we still have no method for removing or upgrading packages -WTF???

I think the current woof build strategy using any one of several distros as a base only dilutes everyone's efforts even more and makes it that much harder to debug and (perfect??) any one of the builds. It really would be much simpler and more effective to build the whole thing from scratch and build things exactly as puppy wants/needs to have them.
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 12:46    Post subject:  

Hey Gilbert (amigo)

sent a PM and an email

where's the beef ? Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 12:54    Post subject:  

@ joe
although vegetarian, i want it too Very Happy

@ all
sure, building puppy-packages from source is allways the best way to go and the only way to prevent compatibility-problems and such. and yes, that is also my preffered way.

but looking at new/other ways is exciting at least for me.

so yes, if there's a way to install slitaz packages, i want to try it.
and yes, if there is a way to use arch-recipes or slitaz-recipes to build puppy-packages, i want to try it.

it's just the same interest the let me try slapt-get/gslapt some time ago ....

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 13:52    Post subject:  

hey aragon
Quote:

although vegetarian, i want it too


ok, made it a pet .... you add the salad dressing

Buen Provecho
Guten Appetit

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 14:20    Post subject:  

excellent and quick work joe Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 15:18    Post subject:  

Amazing how food comes into everything...now I'm hungry...must go...

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PostPosted: Fri 06 Nov 2009, 00:34    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx

slitaz package handling plus

converts packages from deb, arch , slackware ,rpm

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PostPosted: Fri 06 Nov 2009, 13:09    Post subject:  

Hey amigo ,aragon


you will need to have the full xterm installed

I fixed that some time ago here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=758646243&t=38721

the third post


updated 2-23-09 ------------------------
xterm patched and a libs patch

http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/big_bass/libxcb-X11R7patch-2.0.pet
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/big_bass/libtermcap-1.2.3-i486-7.pet
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/big_bass/xterm-232-i486-patched-1.pet


why? there are some xterm commands not recognized
by the rxvt link thingy so to avoid re writing all that
install the above pets and it works now allowing to remove packages


note :to me I have to recompile those packages
and upload them to slaxer

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Nov 2009, 15:09    Post subject:  

Quote:
I posted earlier
slitaz package handling plus

converts packages from deb, arch , slackware ,rpm


*they did a beautiful job with slitaz *


then I tried to do a convert on slitaz the live cd ? what ?

and they dont have that option yet

wow I got it working on slaxer before
ever trying out on the official version Very Happy

almost fine tuned
all is working but need more testing

I can build *tazpkg on puppy


maybe a slit-z-pup way under 30MB on the way Laughing


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