Icewm just stopped working. Need help badly

[Alucard_the_dex]

Ive been on my computer for a while now around 12 hours or so. I didnt do anything outa the ordinary and for some reason firefox didnt start up for me. I rebooted and icewm didnt start. I was stuck at the Boot screen so i typed in Xwin icewm. It tryed to start icewm but threw me back to the boot screen thing. I typed in xwin jwm and started jwm. Firefox still will not work and i tryed reinstalling icewm but that still wont work ither. No clue whats wrong PLZ help meh!

[Ian]

Al what are you using, a live CD, HDD install or USB flash drive.

[MU]

maybe your pup001 is full?

What do you get by typing
df -m

There should be a line like

Code: Select all

/dev/loop1                 653       527        99  84% /root

This tells you, 99 MB are still free space.
If it gets to 0, strange things will happen.
You have to delete files then or uninstall some dotpups or Gimp.

Or add some more space.
Mark

[Alucard_the_dex]

Live CD

/dev/loop1 248 223 12 95% /root

12 MB? ouchness How can a full pup file make puppy act so weird tho?

[MU]

12 MB is not much, that might cause your problems, but I am not shure here.
For most programs, that still should be ok.
But some programs create temporary files, for example firefox.
They can at strange, if they don't have place for the tempfiles.

You might think of resizing your pup001,see "start - utilities - resize root filesystem".

[Alucard_the_dex]

Alright ill resize it and get back to you on that.

But why is it effecting Icewm too?

[MU]

The icewm-thing makes me wonder, too.
So I am not shure if that is the reason, we just can find out by deleting other pups or resizing pup001.
With some luck, icewm will work again, if not, it will be more dificult to find the reason.

When you resize, keep in mind that the maximum size for pup001 is 750 MB or so.
If you have enough place, make a backup first (copy it to pup001-backup).
Mark

[Alucard_the_dex]

Added 128MB to it...Nothing changed. Why is puppy hateing on me? i did nothing to it today ><

[MU]

do the rox-icons still start?
Does JWM run correct with titlebars?


Also try to uninstall icewm, reboot, install again, reboot again.

But before you do that, please run "icewm" in a consolewindow, and post the resulting text here.

[GuestToo]

you can type startx icewm or type startx jwm etc etc to start X from the command line ... if X doesn't start, you can look for error messages in /tmp/xerrs.txt
(type mp /tmp/xerrs.txt or type cat /tmp/xerrs.txt ... or you can copy xerrs.txt somewhere, because it is overwritten everytime you try to start X, something like
cp /tmp/xerrs.txt /root/x1.txt)

[MU]

is this text from a console-window in running jwm, or when you have exit X?
I would suggest to run it in a window for testing.
Not "startx icewm" , just "icewm".

Or did you do that?

[Ian]

Why not boot Puppy and create another pup file, pup002 maybe, and loop mount pup001 and drag across any stuff that you need.

[Alucard_the_dex]

>< I tryed everything you guys said so far nowork this is really weird. And ian I really dont wanna restart ALL over again. If your willing to hold my hand thru a remaster then ill make a fresh file.

[MU]

maybe you edited one of the icewm-files, and made an error.
You could do this:
rename /root/.icewm to /root/.icewm-old

Now reinstall icewm, what should create clean personal configurationfiles (a new folder /root/.icewm).

If that works, we are closer.
If that does not help, you can restore your personal configuration:
delete /root/.icewm
copy /root/.icewm-old to /root/.icewm

Mark

[Alucard_the_dex]

I dont think tahts it thomark I didnt change anything in my icewm folder for a few days now ><

[MU]

Hm.
Then there is only one thing I still would try.

Please find out the full path of icewm:
type:
which icewm

This should tell you something like
/root/my-applications/bin/icewm

Now find out, if one of the libraries needed by it is missing.
type:
ldd /root/my-applications/bin/icewm

if you got a diferent path from "which", use that one instead.

Now you should get:
libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x40017000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x4001f000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x40038000)
libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0x40102000)
libXrender.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x40105000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x4010d000)
libXft.so.2 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x4011b000)
libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x4012d000)
libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x40199000)
libImlib.so.1 => /usr/lib/libImlib.so.1 (0x401c0000)
libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x401ee000)
libtiff.so.3 => /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 (0x4020d000)
libungif.so.4 => /usr/lib/libungif.so.4 (0x40252000)
libpng.so.3 => /usr/lib/libpng.so.3 (0x4025e000)
libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0x40285000)
libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x40293000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4034a000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x4036d000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40375000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40492000)
libexpat.so.0 => /usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 (0x40497000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)

Do youget the same?

[Alucard_the_dex]

I type which icewm into the console but get nothing. My icewm folder is in root tho not myapps.

[Alucard_the_dex]

Im off for the weekend Night all

[MU]

ok, so you might install another icewm-dotpup.
Look in the Additional software-board for other versions.

Have a nice weekend and happy christmas!
Mark