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hokal

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Location: Kempen, Germany, dutch border

PostPosted: Tue 22 Dec 2009, 11:49    Post subject: xserver problems eeepc901
Subject description: problem solved
 

Hi there, especially Jemimah and Prehistoric thanks for your help.

It took me the whole afternoon, but I managed to install 4.3.1. Very Happy

I could not sleep anymore and even in the night time was dreaming why others installed puppeee without problem and I failed. Embarassed
Radically today I formatted my internal 4GB and pysically took out my 8 GB drive as well as my 16 GB sd card. Now I started 4.3.1 again and I got a display. I put in my 16 GB sd card and rebooted: - no display! The failure was reproducable. On my 16 GB card I have several puppy backups. I dont know why, but during booting, even from ISO CD, puppy 4.3x finds files on my SD card that disturbes puppy to start Xserver properly.
Anyhow now I can test both versions boxpuppy and 4.3.1 beta.
Thanks to all of you for your patience. Whenever you want me to test something on eeepc901, please let me know.
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jemimah


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PostPosted: Tue 22 Dec 2009, 12:18    Post subject:  

Believe me, I know all about dreaming of Puppy problems. Wink

You can use the pdev1 and psubdir boot arguments to specifically tell Puppy which save file to use.

Just edit either your menu.lst file if you have Grub or your syslinux.conf file on your usb drive and add something like pdev1=sdb1 (depending on which device the save file is on).
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prehistoric


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PostPosted: Tue 22 Dec 2009, 12:19    Post subject: Booting Puppeee with other Puppy installations  

Hokal's problem demonstrates a warning which got lost in all the other material on this thread: don't try to boot Puppeee 4.3.1 on a system which has any other 4.3.1 system. (There is a way around this, using "psubdir", but those who understand this shouldn't need the warning.)

When Puppeee boots, it looks for a file named pup-431.sfs. This is the same name used by many other 431 derivatives. These are not the same file. Mixing two different file systems can have bizarre results. Shocked

As a general rule, when you are testing new systems under development, start with clean media. If you have valuable Puppy installations, protect them by removing them, so they can't be clobbered by anything an experimental system does. Even brilliant developers can make appalling mistakes during development. This is part of the game, and nobody should blame them for damage done to anything placed at risk. In this special case, their disclaimers of responsibility are very definitely not empty words.

My post about Jemimah boosting the economy by forcing me to buy more SD cards to keep all those systems I was testing separate was not entirely a joke.

Don't blame hokal too much. He has obviously learned something he will never forget. All of us who know better have had similar sleepless nights, even when we pretend otherwise. Wink

Added: this post was composed at the same time as Jemimah's post above, which I had not seen.
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Dec 2009, 18:28    Post subject: Re: Booting Puppeee with other Puppy installations  

prehistoric wrote:
Hokal's problem demonstrates a warning which got lost in all the other material on this thread: don't try to boot Puppeee 4.3.1 on a system which has any other 4.3.1 system. (There is a way around this, using "psubdir", but those who understand this shouldn't need the warning.)

When Puppeee boots, it looks for a file named pup-431.sfs. This is the same name used by many other 431 derivatives. These are not the same file. Mixing two different file systems can have bizarre results. Shocked


First time I'm reading this thread, and so far I only skimmed the first page and this last one, so possibly this post may have missed some point ....but, the above problem can be avoided...

If Jemimah uses Woof to build Pupeee, selecting the "puppy 431" profile, but changing the "file prefix" from "pup" to something else, like "pupe" or "peee" (usually best to keep it in 4 chars if want the filenames to fit the msdos 8+3 format), build a ISO file.

Then use Xdelta, and Puppy has a GUI for this (in Utility menu), to get the difference from the 431 iso file. This is good for those who have already downloaded the 431 official iso.

Using Woof would also make it easy for Jemimah to contribute any improvements to scripts back to me, as Bones (the version control system, if it can be called that) can save deltas of user modifications (see Bones and Woof web pages -- see recent announces on my blog).

Just some thoughts for consideration.

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jemimah


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PostPosted: Tue 22 Dec 2009, 20:05    Post subject:  

I have been meaning to take a weekend and figure Woof out. Xdelta would make my life easier too probably.
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prehistoric


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PostPosted: Wed 23 Dec 2009, 16:35    Post subject: prefixes for pup-431.sfs  

I would vote for prefixes like: pep, peep, or even eeep, to avoid peee. I've had enough experience with housebreaking puppies. Puppeee has better control.
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Dec 2009, 18:26    Post subject:  

yeah I was thinking the same thing. Maybe just eee-431.sfs.
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BJF

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Location: Lower Hutt, New Zealand

PostPosted: Sun 27 Dec 2009, 03:46    Post subject: Bluetooth and 4.31_3
Subject description: Won't pair with an N90 Nokia
 

Jemimah: I have installed your Bluetooth .pets beginning with dbus and then in an orderly alphabetical order. All appears well. The Nokia shows up correctly and my 701 4G is visible to the 'phone, but he can't pair and I can't send. I am a bear of little brain so please adjust the level of expertise accordingly.

Edit: Have found in searching that 4.3 doesn't yet have file transfer capability. I'll stop mucking about and be patient.

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01micko


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PostPosted: Sun 27 Dec 2009, 04:10    Post subject:  

jemimah

for devs, with xdelta, there is nothing to figure out, just drag and drop old file to box, new file to next box, generate, delta file is created... it really is too easy!

for downloaders, drag old file to box, next *.delta file to next box, generate, got new file. It is amazingly simple, the bloke deserves a medal!

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jemimah


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PostPosted: Mon 28 Dec 2009, 23:54    Post subject:  

Puppeee has a logo now. Check it out! http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=375725#375725

Anyone want to create a wallpaper featuring the new logo?
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neurino


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PostPosted: Tue 29 Dec 2009, 07:45    Post subject:  

I made this for my 901 Rolling Eyes



if anyone interested I can give GIMP files to rearrange
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jemimah


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PostPosted: Tue 29 Dec 2009, 12:08    Post subject:  

That looks good to me Neurino. If you send me a full size version without icons on it, I'll make it the default for Beta 3.2.
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neurino


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PostPosted: Tue 29 Dec 2009, 17:30    Post subject:  

jemimah wrote:
That looks good to me Neurino. If you send me a full size version without icons on it, I'll make it the default for Beta 3.2.


it's 1024x600, if different resolutions are needed simply edit the gimp file resizing the background layer and reposition the remaining
(for example I always set the tray to autohide so you may want to lift puppeee up a bit otherwise)

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PostPosted: Wed 30 Dec 2009, 12:08    Post subject: Huawei e1550 not recognized  

I'm having troubles using my Huaweu e1550 in puppeee

After hours trying to make it work in any way I tried with standard Puppy 431 and the dongle switched with usb_modeswitch and was recognized with Internet wireless modem wiazrd as /dev/ttyUSB0

Why puppeee is different? Sad
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PostPosted: Wed 30 Dec 2009, 13:25    Post subject:  

Can you link me to the relevant instructions?
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