Puppeee 4.3X

[jemimah]

I have done this colour test with warm purples, are just a proof with the same size of the taskbar in my theme (36 pixels height), say me wich one aproaches most of what you want... or say me a colour in RGB format

How about #63527A?

[jemimah]

(sorry to interrupt your advanced discussion with my newbie questions!)

How do I create a new Personal Storage file? While playing around, I increased it to 1GB (on my 4GB 701), now I realise I only need 512Mb so would like to start afresh with a smaller file.

Also, Firefox has become bloated with all my extensions etc (I start firefox with an empty tab, but it freezes for 10 sec after I enter the first URL before loading the page, doesn't happen each time I open another tab though). How do I uninstall firefox so that I can do a fresh install? (eg do I need to delete the .mozilla directory etc?)

Thanks,
Simon

No need to apologize. This thread is pretty much a free for all.

• First thing to do is rename your existing save file to something like oldsavefile.2fs.save. Then reboot and reboot again to create a new save file.
  
  Now reboot again and choose not to load any save file from the menu.
  
  Find your old save and rename it to oldsavefile.2fs. Click on the old save file to open it. Then click on your new save file and open it too.
  
  Now all you need to do is select all the files in your old save file and copy them to the new save file.
  
  At this point you can go into the new save file and delete the /root/.mozilla directory. If you installed Firefox using the SFS that should be enough to reset it to the original settings.
  
  Rename your old save file back to oldsavefile.2fs.save, and reboot. It should come up with your new save file.

[jemimah]

Be cool if tshirt was available with your pink shades pooch; anything an end user like me can test rc8 on 701SD or 1000H?

Unfortunately I don't own the pink goggles pooch - just grabbed it from google images. There might be copyright infringement issues if I do much more with it than use it as my avatar.

At this point, I just need to know that all the menu items work, and if you find any bugs.

[jemimah]

RC8 seems to be working fantastic so far.
Panning is excellent!

Only thing wrong I found is You2pup not working anymore which is a bit sad as I use it a lot
I tried older versions but they also fail, which makes me think it is somewhere in the preconditions rather than the script itself. Scipt complains about an argument too many on line 26 (or 28 depending on the version).


Regards,
Zicozico

Apparently YouTube keeps changing things on their end. You2pup has been updated several times in the past few months but it keeps breaking. I'm going to remove it for 1.0 and hopefully someone will post a fixed version in the You2Pup thread.

[nooby]

It is possible in both Quirky and Lupu to save youtube files manually using /root/tmp/

Play a file on youtube.
Wait until the loading has been done but the playing still has no reach end.
One can set it on Pause while the rest of it loads.

Then go to the directory where you have music and let that dir be open in Rox.
Then start another rox and go to /root/tmp/ and look out for the Flashxxx file

Move that one to your music dir and rename it to the artist and song title.

Plays usual one can name it .mp4 if on like but it plays without ending too.

Good to know while one wait for devs to make graphic such dowloads.

[sandungas]

At this point, I just need to know that all the menu items work, and if you find any bugs.

gimp2.6.8.sfs sets 2 duplicated icons in the "graphic" sub-menu

Btw, gimp2.6.8.sfs works fast with low cpu comsumption even with several windows opened, and 6 mb is very light
Works great, and was very usefull to me when doing the theme (0 errors in several days testing)

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"IceWm configuration" app generates a strange error that i cant understand (i supose that changes something in the "global" iceWM config file)
To replicate the fail:
1- open MENU/DESKTOP/ICEWM CONFIGURATION
2- close icewm configuration (just open & close, there is no need to change settings)
3- right click on the mouse over any of the taskbar monitor apps (battery, temperature, etc...)

This makes the taskbar icons to lost their background settings, and the fail happens in all the themes, even after rebooting the fail is permanent (and i have not found a way to fix it)

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"Lock" app (icon in the desktop) becomes inactive after this:
1- click the "lock" icon in the desktop
2- close the window

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Xcompmgr desktop effects is very cpu/gpu intensive, the windows effects are veeeeeeery slow
I think this app is unusable in a eeepc, and dont match with the idea of puppeee (fast & light)

[sandungas]

I have done this colour test with warm purples, are just a proof with the same size of the taskbar in my theme (36 pixels height), say me wich one aproaches most of what you want... or say me a colour in RGB format

How about #63527A?

Done, you have the files in a private message, feel free to change default.theme configuration to your likeness and make your alternative.theme ´s colour variations with geany

[jemimah]

"IceWm configuration" app generates a strange error that i cant understand (i supose that changes something in the "global" iceWM config file)
To replicate the fail:
1- open MENU/DESKTOP/ICEWM CONFIGURATION
2- close icewm configuration (just open & close, there is no need to change settings)
3- right click on the mouse over any of the taskbar monitor apps (battery, temperature, etc...)


This makes the taskbar icons to lost their background settings, and the fail happens in all the themes, even after rebooting the fail is permanent (and i have not found a way to fix it)

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Hmm, I can't reproduce it. Anyone else have this issue?

"Lock" app (icon in the desktop) becomes inactive after this:
1- click the "lock" icon in the desktop
2- close the window

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Ok. To fix, delete the file, .xlockrc. I will see if I can fix that.

Xcompmgr desktop effects is very cpu/gpu intensive, the windows effects are veeeeeeery slow
I think this app is unusable in a eeepc, and dont match with the idea of puppeee (fast & light)

What model EeePC do you have? The effects seem much smoother on Celeron than Atom in my testing, but never totally unusable. What kind of framerate do you get in glxgears?

[jemimah]

Done, you have the files in a private message, feel free to change default.theme configuration to your likeness and make your alternative.theme ´s colour variations with geany

This looks very cool. Thanks a bunch.

[simon1482]

Inside puppee there are some apps to edit .sfs filesystems and to resize the savefile (inside "filesystem" apps in the menu)

Make a copy of your savefile before trying any of this

Thanks, but the Resize tool only works to make it bigger, how do I start from scratch with a new smaller Personal Storage file? (I am running puppee off my SSD)

I don't mind if I lose all my settings etc, I found it quite quick and easy to get puppeee tweaked to suit my taste.

Can anyone help with my firefox question below, please?

Also, Firefox has become bloated with all my extensions etc (I start firefox with an empty tab, but it freezes for 10 sec after I enter the first URL before loading the page, doesn't happen each time I open another tab though). How do I uninstall firefox so that I can do a fresh install? (eg do I need to delete the .mozilla directory etc?)

[scabz]

Inside puppee there are some apps to edit .sfs filesystems and to resize the savefile (inside "filesystem" apps in the menu)

Make a copy of your savefile before trying any of this

Thanks, but the Resize tool only works to make it bigger, how do I start from scratch with a new smaller Personal Storage file? (I am running puppee off my SSD)

there are a couple different ways to do it, one way is to go to the folder where you pup_save is and create a new text file, or just new file and name it pup_save-fake.2fs and reboot. when it reboots it will ask you which save file to use pick none because the pup_save you made is fake.

when you shutdown it will ask to make a new pup_save.
when you boot with the new pup_save you can delete the old one and fake one, or save the old one somewhere different.

[jemimah]

Inside puppee there are some apps to edit .sfs filesystems and to resize the savefile (inside "filesystem" apps in the menu)

Make a copy of your savefile before trying any of this

Thanks, but the Resize tool only works to make it bigger, how do I start from scratch with a new smaller Personal Storage file? (I am running puppee off my SSD)

I don't mind if I lose all my settings etc, I found it quite quick and easy to get puppeee tweaked to suit my taste.

Can anyone help with my firefox question below, please?

Also, Firefox has become bloated with all my extensions etc (I start firefox with an empty tab, but it freezes for 10 sec after I enter the first URL before loading the page, doesn't happen each time I open another tab though). How do I uninstall firefox so that I can do a fresh install? (eg do I need to delete the .mozilla directory etc?)

Did you see my reply? http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 525#438525

[aarf]

puppeeerc7: WEP with two spaces in the SSID name, downloading puppeeerc 8, initial ETA was 3d plus. averaging under 1Kb/sec. other nonpuppy users are saying there is no speed problem for them.
been consistent slow for me since i started using this only available connection from three days ago.

[jemimah]

Raffy has installed a new forum for us at Puppeee.com.

I am working on configuring it. Please test it out and let me know if you have any trouble signing up or using it.

http://puppeee.com/bb

[simon1482]

Did you see my reply? http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 525#438525

Sorry I totally missed it! Thanks heaps.

[sandungas]

"IceWm configuration" app generates a strange error that i cant understand (i supose that changes something in the "global" iceWM config file)
To replicate the fail:
1- open MENU/DESKTOP/ICEWM CONFIGURATION
2- close icewm configuration (just open & close, there is no need to change settings)
3- right click on the mouse over any of the taskbar monitor apps (battery, temperature, etc...)


This makes the taskbar icons to lost their background settings, and the fail happens in all the themes, even after rebooting the fail is permanent (and i have not found a way to fix it)

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Hmm, I can't reproduce it. Anyone else have this issue?

I realized that if i boot a clean install of puppeee, this problems is not present, so there must be something wrong with icewm config in my savefile
I dont remember exactly what i did, but this days i was playing with icewm, so probably it was my fault

Xcompmgr desktop effects is very cpu/gpu intensive, the windows effects are veeeeeeery slow
I think this app is unusable in a eeepc, and dont match with the idea of puppeee (fast & light)

What model EeePC do you have? The effects seem much smoother on Celeron than Atom in my testing, but never totally unusable. What kind of framerate do you get in glxgears?

glxgears gives me a 237 FPS

To be more precise, what is slow is the fade effect behind windows & menu
-windows - a bit slow, but usable
-menu - same speed than windows fade, but adding the delay of the menu items in icewm... makes the menu seem buggy

The shadow effects behind windows/taskbar/menu are nice, no problem with them

Maybe there is a config file with the fade speed, or with an option to deactivate it, but seems more a problem of the app than a problem of puppeee

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Yesterday i readed that the icewm puppeee uses is compiled by you, and you was talking about transparencyes
I realized about an strage behaviour with desktop icons

The problem happens in icewm themes that uses background images in the menu/submenues (like the themes i did)
If you change between "Graphic" & "Office" & "Personal" submenues... you will see some desktops icons behind them dissapear partially (i.e. chat icon)

Seems to be some kind of delay with the menu background images (probably something normal)

The strange thing is that Xcompmgr fixes this problem (if you activate Xcompmgr the menu is slower because the fade effect, but the problem with dissapearing icons get fixed)

[simon1482]

Thanks for all your help so far! Unfortunately, I've got myself in trouble again...do'h...

After getting firefox tweaked to my taste, its suddenly gone back to its default settings/extensions/plugins/etc. I was experimenting with Desktops (Rox-Filer, PCManFM, etc), somehow I think this has killed it. The settings I want back are in
/initrd/pup_ro1/root/.mozilla

How do I tell which folder is being used by the current instance of firefox? And how to I get write access to this folder so I can move the files there? (I tried copying the files to other pup_ro2, pup_ro3, etc directories, but the directories were read only)

Thanks,
Simon

[jemimah]

glxgears gives me a 237 FPS

To be more precise, what is slow is the fade effect behind windows & menu
-windows - a bit slow, but usable
-menu - same speed than windows fade, but adding the delay of the menu items in icewm... makes the menu seem buggy

The fade is tweakable (although adjusting the speed does not seem to help on Atom models [but looks good to me on Celeron], turning the fade off is also possible). Eventually I'm going to add more features to the GUI to allow more effects customization. Anyone want to take a stab at it?

[jemimah]

Thanks for all your help so far! Unfortunately, I've got myself in trouble again...do'h...

After getting firefox tweaked to my taste, its suddenly gone back to its default settings/extensions/plugins/etc. I was experimenting with Desktops (Rox-Filer, PCManFM, etc), somehow I think this has killed it. The settings I want back are in
/initrd/pup_ro1/root/.mozilla

How do I tell which folder is being used by the current instance of firefox? And how to I get write access to this folder so I can move the files there? (I tried copying the files to other pup_ro2, pup_ro3, etc directories, but the directories were read only)

Thanks,
Simon

The files in /initrd are the AUFS layers - you shouldn't try to modify them directly.

What Firefox uses is a result of combining the layers in the readonly file systems and your writable save file. If you just delete /root/.mozilla, AUFS will white that directory out and none of the layers will show through.

So what you need to do, is boot without loading the save file. Then click on the save file to open it and delete the .mozilla directory. Then the next time you boot, the .mozilla directory that I put in the firefox sfs file will show up and you can start over.

If you continue to have layering problems, you can use Pet Maker Plus to convert the firefox sfs file into a pet and install it normally. Then all the firefox stuff will be in your save file, and hopefully won't pull any weird disappearing acts. AUFS can be a touch buggy at times - if it bothers you, you can do a full install - in which case AUFS is not used.

[sandungas]

I prefer firefox over chrome mostly because 2 plugins (AdBlock plus & NoScript)
These 2 are a must for me, they must be configured for every web you visit, but are "spam killers" and makes web browsing faster
Is easy to add plugins to the firefox.sfs ?

I have not tried, but im thinking to make a new puppeee install... reboot (save) and load firefox.sfs and install the plugins (reboot and save again)
Then boot a fresh puppee and take a look at the savefile to try to identify the plugins files
Extract this plugins files and try to inject them in firefox.sfs
Is doable ?

Actually im using chrome, because it seems that is more "integrated" with puppeeee (and faster), but the way chrome can be uninstalled is nice and gives us more freedom
Im not sure wich one i will use, but im happy with both