Puppeee 4.3X

[aarf]

Nope, the problem still persists in double click mode. Switching back to single click mode should give you the behavior you want.

just normal one click puppy standard is fine for me. there is vast amounts of configuration possibilities in menu>desktop>icewm preference so if you now and can tell please do.

[jemimah]

It's not an IceWM thing, it's in the ROX options. Right click any desktop icon, Goto Rox-Filer->Options. Then goto Filer Windows, and check Single-click Navigation.

[prehistoric]

Jemimah,

I had another opportunity to test briefly on that machine mentioned before. Still insists on 800x600. It doesn't seem that a mode line fix will work.

I'm afraid this relates to continuing problems with recent kernels and Intel drivers which Barry has also experienced with Quirky. If I had such a machine myself, I'd get you better diagnostic results. (Hmm. How would this affect my budget?)

I will continue to observe and test, as opportunity presents. I'm already behind the curve on RC1.

[jemimah]

Do you know what the native resolution is? Is it 1024x600 or something higher like 1366x768?

[aarf]

It's not an IceWM thing, it's in the ROX options. Right click any desktop icon, Goto Rox-Filer->Options. Then goto Filer Windows, and check Single-click Navigation.

got it, thanks thats better

[prehistoric]

Jemimah,

Here's something very weird about Puppeee on that Asus eee PC 1001P with an Atom N450 processor. It is a single core chip, (the dual-core versions start with the 510) but the dmesg I read definitely talked about starting processors 0 and 1. I know I am confused, but I think there is confused software as well.

[cinclus_cinclus]

@jemimah,

thank you for rc1.

I rebuilt the kernel with 2.6.33-sched-bfs-316.patch and configured it for additional kernel-modules.

Some problems until I noticed that

1. eee_devx_460.sfs lacks Pud-lzo.pet
2. before installation of the modules (make modules_install) I had to remove ze460332.sfs.

Remastering then was easy:

1) only a new eee-460.sfs had to be created. The devx-tools and the drivers of ze460332.sfs were already included, and
2) replaced the old kernel with the new one
3) left initrd.gz unchanged

[MU]

I installled e16:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/EnlightenmentWM
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=6420

To install the pups, I first installed the dotpuphandler with petget.

Just libesd was required in addition, and

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cd /usr/sbin
ln -s gtkdialog3 gtkdialog

Also Puppybasic is needed for my setup tools (like the ibareditor), I had installed it already, as it is part of Muppy-Filer mentioned earlieron.

To activate e16:
exit X, and type:

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echo starte16 > /etc/wm
xwin

To activate icewm again, you would type:

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echo icewm-session > /etc/wm
xwin

E16 runs lovely on the 1005HA-M, just some glitches can be seen.
For example the import of the Puppymenu does not work, as it used the JWM menu for import. I must rewrite this to import the Icewm-menu instead.
Update:
To get the Puppy-menu, extract the attached archive to /etc/xdg/templates.
Then type in a console "fixmenus".
Then click on the desktop to get the old menu, and choose "Puppy - e16 - reload Puppy-menu".
This takes some seconds.

Also the epplets like the clock do not run. - Update: they run, if you install imlib 1.9 from the Puppy3 repository in petget (it seems you can ignore the dependency-warning that pops up).

Maybe I can correct it this weekend, then I would upload a repackaged version for the eeepc

Update: to use the trayicons, I installed:
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Desktop-Tools ... yicons.pup

Then added it to the startup:

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cd /root/Startup
ln -s /usr/local/xystray-icons/run-xystray run-xystray

To place the tray at the bottom center, modify these lines in:
/usr/local/xystray-icons/run-xystray run-xystray

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PositionY = screenheight() - 22
PositionX = screenwidth()/2 - (NumberOfIcons*22)/2
Background = "gray90"

To activate the borders for it, delete the line:

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xwin_notitlenoborder("0x" & theID)

Now you can choose a borderstyle with "ALT-rightclick".


To make the menus transparent just right click on the desktop...Desktop Background Settings.. and down at the bottom is the theme transparency settings. I have mine a 152.

To get the slowly moving waves at bottom, activate "ripples" in "Right-click Desktop - Special FX Settings"

Mark

[jemimah]

Jemimah,

Here's something very weird about Puppeee on that Asus eee PC 1001P with an Atom N450 processor. It is a single core chip, (the dual-core versions start with the 510) but the dmesg I read definitely talked about starting processors 0 and 1. I know I am confused, but I think there is confused software as well.

All Atom processors have this - it's called hyperthreading. That's why the kernel needs SMP support.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-threading

[jemimah]

To activate icewm again, you would type:

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echo icewm-session > /etc/wm
echo icewm-session > /etc/windowmanager
xwin

You should just change /etc/wm. That way Xorg will shut down correctly after changing the window manager. This also allows for some scripts to run to make setting changes depending on the window manager. It would be easy enough to package it with a new version of the change-wm tool and add e16 to the list.

[jemimah]

@jemimah,

thank you for rc1.

I rebuilt the kernel with 2.6.33-sched-bfs-316.patch and configured it for additional kernel-modules.

Some problems until I noticed that

1. eee_devx_460.sfs lacks Pud-lzo.pet
2. before installation of the modules (make modules_install) I had to remove ze460332.sfs.

Remastering then was easy:

1) only a new eee-460.sfs had to be created. The devx-tools and the drivers of ze460332.sfs were already included, and
2) replaced the old kernel with the new one
3) left initrd.gz unchanged

Yes, I do my kernel compiling on Ubuntu, so I guess I do need to add lzo to the devx.

Would you have any interest in joining the Fluppy development team and helping me compile drivers and patch the kernel to support more netbooks? I'm afraid it's going to be too big of a job for just me all by myself.

[2lss]

jemimah,

I am experiencing the issue with puppy not going to sleep when the lid is closed, giving the "External Display Connected: Lid Suspend Disabled" message. After checking, I noticed that xrandr did not print anything about VGA disconnected so grep returned a 1 not a 0. I thought I could modify the script to look for something like 'VGA Connected" so I dug out a monitor and hooked it up (had to reboot puppy to get monitor to work, fn + f5 returned "VGA not connected." Not sure if that is normal) I ran xrandr again after reboot but surprisingly there is no mention of the second monitor.

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# xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1024 x 600, maximum 1024 x 600 
default connected 1024x600+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
   1024x600        0.0* 
   800x600         0.0  
   640x480         0.0  

Since I never use the external monitor I just changed the script to always suspend. I don't know any other ways to detect the external monitor.

I'm using Xvesa for the first time, so I'm not sure if that could be the culprit.

p.s. I'm loving the openbox/rox panel combo

[MU]

(had to reboot puppy to get monitor to work, fn + f5 returned "VGA not connected." Not sure if that is normal)

I also had to reboot to get the second monitor (a beamer) to work.
It worked immedeatly, but with a wrong resolution (using Xorg).
After a reboot, xorgwizard detected the beamer and offered the correct resolutions for it.

Mark

[jemimah]

I'm using Xvesa for the first time, so I'm not sure if that could be the culprit.

That's almost certainly the problem. I should have thought of that. Thanks!

It is normal to have to reboot and rerun the xorgwizard to get an external monitor to work. I think all Puppies have that issue.

[rameshiyer]

Madam

Is it possible to install Puppeee 4.3 in Desktop PC having IntelQ6600 CPU (quad core), Q35 Intel chipset Motherboard.

[aarf]

using portable opera10.54 i have to paste to geany then to terminal, straight from opera to terminal fails ,
the shutdown problems of 431 are still evident in puppee rc1 . halts at white rectangles on black screen. hard-off required.

[prehistoric]

...All Atom processors have this - it's called hyperthreading. That's why the kernel needs SMP support.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-threading

This leaves the question of the difference in reported clock speeds, but, no, please don't tell me. I not sure I could take it in my debilitated state.

I knew Hyperthreading(Tm) was a new name for multiple register sets, but didn't realize it showed up as a phantom processor. I suppose we must all resign ourselves to such coming techno-linguistic attractions as hype-or-ventilation, (cooling being a big issue.)

[songzi]

using portable opera10.54 i have to paste to geany then to terminal, straight from opera to terminal fails ,
the shutdown problems of 431 are still evident in puppee rc1 . halts at white rectangles on black screen. hard-off required.

I had the same shutdown problem with RC1, too (my machine is EEEPC 900, the puppeee rc1 is on a 4GB SD card). When rebooting and prompted to choose xorg or vesa, I chose vesa, instead of xorg. This time the shutdown returned to normal.

[jemimah]

Madam

Is it possible to install Puppeee 4.3 in Desktop PC having IntelQ6600 CPU (quad core), Q35 Intel chipset Motherboard.

Probably not - it has drivers for the EeePC only.

[jemimah]

using portable opera10.54 i have to paste to geany then to terminal, straight from opera to terminal fails ,
the shutdown problems of 431 are still evident in puppee rc1 . halts at white rectangles on black screen. hard-off required.

Tell me more about the shutdown problem. Every time? Often? Once in a while? Can you reproduce it consistently?

There is a problem with the Intel driver (and what version of the intel driver does not have problems?). I can't upgrade it without breaking MESA. If you don't care about 3D, Patriot has posted a couple newer Intel packages that you can test.