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Old Max

Joined: 28 Nov 2010
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Nov 2010, 19:25    Post subject: Opera went away. ???  
Greetings.

I've been using NOP 431 for nearly a year now. Just recently I had a problem that is baffling me.

By accident I installed a Lucid .pet (VLC, if it matters), and realizing my mistake, I uninstalled it. Immediately after that, I could not launch Opera from the menu. Clicking on Opera under the Internet menu results in no behavior whatever.

I don't know whether to think that uninstalling VideoLan took some important lib with it, or just somehow messed up the launcher. regrettably, I don't know where the launcher files are or how to check them. Any suggestions? More information on request.

I realize NOP 431 is near, or probably at, EOL, but if someone can advise, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,

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Max Headroom


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PostPosted: Sun 28 Nov 2010, 19:39    Post subject: Old Max
Subject description: Not Sure How 2 Fix Y'r Problem, But have U Tried Re - installing Opera		  
Here's the Latest...
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Opera

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Old Max

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 07:22    Post subject: Thanks anyway.  
Actually, I was hoping for more of a "solution" type solution, both for learning purposes and to try to recover some (non-critical, fortunately) mail from the other installation. Opera(Linux) seems to be very bad at importing old mail files.

I installed Puppy Lucid 5.11 so that I could post this and operate in the meanwhiles, but I actually prefer the XFCE interface.

Thanks anyway.

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DaveS


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 09:17    Post subject: Re: Thanks anyway.  
Old Max wrote:
Actually, I was hoping for more of a "solution" type solution

Old Max


OK, lets try to debug it. First just open a terminal and type
Code:
opera

Hit 'enter' key. One of two things will happen: either Opera will load, inwhich case it is your menu at fault, or it will not due to missing/deleted libs, inwhich case the terminal output will tell you which ones. Go for it, post back results....
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Old Max

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 19:37    Post subject: Here's what I get.  
First, thanks for your help. I do appreciate it.

Opening a terminal on the affected system, I get the following two errors:

Code:
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored

ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored


Googling these, I find it is Java error, and this combination shows up often enough in the Google search to be considered fairly common, IMHO.. I'll research this some more (will need to go offline and poke around the non-working Pup), but if anyone has further suggestions feel free to jump in. Smile

There were actually a few hits on threads from this board, but none that I looked at were helpful to this n00b.

I'll post my experience with what I find once I have something substantive.

Thanks again. I'll be back.

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 03:40    Post subject:  
My guess is opera needs those two libs, and they got deleted somehow. They are not present on my system (which does not have opera) so I guess they are part of the Opera install. Will check further....
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Old Max

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 06:09    Post subject: Curiouser and curiouser.  
Firing up a "clean" version of NOP 431 with the two .sfs files obfuscated/renamed, Opera launches fine but the two files in the error messages can't be found -- as files -- either. I'm guessing they don't exist as files, but launch from something else, like a kernel module or something.

My super-braniac powers tell me that there must be something going on in the .sfs files. Duh.

I see that an .sfs editor for Puppy does (or did?) exist, I'll try to find and play with this a bit and see what I can find out. I'm guessing though (and I say this without rancor) that it's just time to upgrade. Would be nice to recover some of those OperaMail files though. Maybe the sfs editor will shed light.

Thanks,

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nice2k

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 07:39    Post subject:  
Is there any mirror for this?
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Old Max

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 12:29    Post subject:  
nice2k wrote:
Is there any mirror for this?


Mirror for what, exactly?

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Old Max

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Dec 2010, 04:30    Post subject: Kthxbai  
Well, playing a bit with an sfs editor seems to indicate that whatever happened ate most of the mail I wanted to recover anyway. None of it was critical, thank the gods, but it takes some of the incentive out of learning how to fix Opera's (?) Java in NOP 431. As much as I like NOP 431 and appreciate its good points, it's basically a micro-distro with a really small user base that's reached EOL. I think I need to just switch to something else.

I'm using Lucid 5.11 now; JWM is OK but I just can't like ROX-Filer ... the latter part of this article may explain that.

Anyway, thanks to those who responded, and best wishes to all.

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nice2k

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Dec 2010, 11:22    Post subject:  
Old Max wrote:
nice2k wrote:
Is there any mirror for this?


Mirror for what, exactly?

Old Max


For the .iso . The link on the first posting seems to be down Sad
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Dec 2010, 12:10    Post subject:  
Hi

nice2k wrote:
For the .iso . The link on the first posting seems to be down Sad


Under situations like this, it is always a good idea to read through the whole thread Wink Wink ,
had you done so, you would have found this on page 5

Note:
It say's:
Quote:
Password: linuxNOP431

but i think it may work with just linux

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