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#616 Post by Jim1911 »

Hi tazoc,

Take a look at Startmount-0.5.3 - 01micko and tasmod's which allows selective mount of individual partitions and starting of programs. A big help for me because I always want to mount only one other partition in addition to home. It is working well on my LHP installations.

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#617 Post by 01micko »

Thanks for the recommendation Jim :)

TazOC,

Joe wing has updated JWM again to 490, fixes some keyboard issues. Source here

Compiles in a jiffy on lupu but fribidi must be disabled, however if you need that compiled in BarryK has a hack on his blog here

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#618 Post by tazoc »

Q5sys, Jim1911 and 01micko,
Thanks for the tips. I'm testing ROX 2.10 from git and JWM 489. I'll give JWM 490 a try as well--I didn't know about Fribidi.

Q5sys, you're right, it would be nice if ROX had back and forward buttons and the other features also. But it is quick and I love how it shows recently changed files in bold text. I find the properties dialog more helpful than on any other file manager. I tend to use the up button and Bookmarks | Recently visited menu without thinking about it.

The SFS ideas you posted sound interesting. If you need somewhere to upload you could PM Caneri as many Puppians have space on his server at puppylinux.asia, or myself if you'd like to use lhpup.org.

Pete22,
Glad the Gu3 pet works for you. It was very small in size--ideal for a PET rather than rebuilding the ISO. I noticed the subject on your post "Grub install is broken", and was wondering if that was in LHP; if so what file system type was the partition chosen and was there an error code? GRUB is great when it works but can be tough to diagnose when it doesn't.
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#619 Post by Q5sys »

tazoc wrote:Q5sys, Jim1911 and 01micko,
Thanks for the tips. I'm testing ROX 2.10 from git and JWM 489. I'll give JWM 490 a try as well--I didn't know about Fribidi.

Q5sys, you're right, it would be nice if ROX had back and forward buttons and the other features also. But it is quick and I love how it shows recently changed files in bold text. I find the properties dialog more helpful than on any other file manager. I tend to use the up button and Bookmarks | Recently visited menu without thinking about it.

The SFS ideas you posted sound interesting. If you need somewhere to upload you could PM Caneri as many Puppians have space on his server at puppylinux.asia, or myself if you'd like to use lhpup.org.
I hadnt noticed Barry's post about Rox 2.10. I compiled it from source pulled directly from the rox site. The only issue with it that I had was, that apparently the icons needed to be in a different place than they currently where in my system, because none of the icons rendered at all. Other than that, I didnt have any problems with it at all.
As for using Bash 4.1 it seems to work fine, but I have yet to do a full reboot with it in place. Thats on the adjenda this weekend.

As far as the 'recently visited menu', I had never heard of that before, so I went digging and found it. That'll solve my forward and back quirks. Cut/Paste will still annoy me, as well not being able to quiet overwriting/merging. Well... at least thats one annoyance down. :)

As for a place to host things, I dont care really where I can put any sfs files I make. If I can put it somewhere and someone else can benefit from it... great. Since I use LHP, it might make a bit more sense if the SFS files are there, as thats the OS I am testing them on and can confirm that they dont have any conflicts (or at least none that ive found yet).
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#620 Post by gcmartin »

I'm new here. Saw this project and it seems interesting.

But, I'm trying to understand Lighthouse and Mariner and now even the new GU3 Pet.

What is the installation instructions once you have LightHouse?
Can I install these 3 as a part of a LIveCD session?
How would you proceed?

Thanks in advance....

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#621 Post by tazoc »

gcmartin wrote:I'm new here. Saw this project and it seems interesting.
Hi and welcome!
But, I'm trying to understand Lighthouse and Mariner and now even the new GU3 Pet.

What is the installation instructions once you have LightHouse?
Can I install these 3 as a part of a LIveCD session?
From Tips | Installation: The Mariner ISO is also a Live-CD but it includes SFS add-ons (separate from the main file) that need a Frugal Install. SFS (Squash File System) add-ons are compressed software files that are layered into the file system at boot up from a Frugal Install, not a full install.

The SFS add-ons are not available in LiveCD mode because saving your session to a 'pupsave' file and rebooting is required. It is possible to remaster a LiveCD with the add-ons inside the main file, however that would increase boot-up time and might be problematic (wouldn't fit in RAM) on low-spec machines. I think you'll like the frugal install method once you've tried it. It's great for backups and easier to upgrade and maintain.

The G update3 pet can be installed at anytime on a LHP 4.43 Gu2 system by clicking on it in ROX-Filer (File System Icon).
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#622 Post by gcmartin »

@tazoc Thanks

I think I understand what you intend here. But let me ask the following:
  • Does Mariner have everything that LH's iso has, plus more?
    Is there any reason why I could not save Mariner's file requirements back to the multi-session DVD that I boot with?
    Is there a way at boot time to, then, request which "SFS" to boot?
Where do I get the Mariner ISO? ( see the reference, but not sure where to download for "Mariner")
thx

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Re: cannot install pet update LHP_4.43Gu3-G_update3b.pet

#623 Post by Q5sys »

Q5sys wrote:However I am working on one to try to fill in some of the missing CLI bits that Puppy does not seem to have as well as some add on utilities for system monitoring and Bash 4.1.
Q5sys wrote:As for using Bash 4.1 it seems to work fine, but I have yet to do a full reboot with it in place. Thats on the adjenda this weekend.
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I've found no issues or conflicts with v4.1.
Dont know if you'd like to update LHP from v3.0 to 4.1 or not, but ive not found any conflicts.

im also loading htop .8.3.1 There arent many changes over .8.1 (what LHP has), but it has some bug fixes (11 changes in total if you care, its in the gz if you wanna check them /usr/share/doc/htop/changelog)
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#624 Post by Barburo »

Hi TazOC,
Thanks for the fix for sidebar - I got it working for my ra0 wireless connection. I didn't read your original instructions thoroughly enough - until I started clicking on the sidebar I didn't realize that there are areas that bring up child apps - I like it!
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#625 Post by tazoc »

gcmartin wrote:@tazoc Thanks

I think I understand what you intend here. But let me ask the following:
  • Does Mariner have everything that LH's iso has, plus more?
    Is there any reason why I could not save Mariner's file requirements back to the multi-session DVD that I boot with?
    Is there a way at boot time to, then, request which "SFS" to boot?
Where do I get the Mariner ISO? ( see the reference, but not sure where to download for "Mariner")
thx
Yes, the Mariner ISO has everything in the Base ISO plus the Mariner SFS (also available separately) and the KDE SFS. I have not tried a multi-session DVD. The last I knew that was experimental in Puppy. I would recommend saving your session and the SFS add-on files to a hard disk or flash drive because they have quicker access and transfer rates for the relatively large and numerous files in Lighthouse, especially if you will be using KDE.

Puppy and Lighthouse do not have the capability to choose SFS at bootup, but I agree that would be nice to have. The downloads page at http://www.lhpup.org has links to both the Base ISO and the Mariner ISO and other SFS add-ons right at the top of the page which takes you to detailed descriptions just above each download link.

If you don't need KDE I recommend burning the Base ISO and then if it works OK, download the other SFS files as needed, including the Mariner SFS. You can always add the KDE and/or Xfce SFS later if you want to.
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#626 Post by Q5sys »

tazOC,
Im slowly working my way through all the GNU utils in Gu2 and seeing which ones have updates. So far ive found quite a few. I'm going to be going through and testing them one at a time (all 106 of them).
I was trying to compile emacs, and was hitting a bug in 'find', after updating it went away. I was suprised to see that 'find' was 5 years out of date, lol. I figured as the newer versions of puppy were released the coreutils would have been updated... but i guess I was wrong. :P

Would you be interested in which ones update without any conflicts?

EDIT: So far to good, updated from v6.9 to v8.5 of GNU coreutils and have yet to have any issues, will continue testing.

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Bash 4.1

#627 Post by tazoc »

Hi Q5sys,
The only niggle I've found with Bash 4.1 is that in Console-LHP (Sakura) terminal, the home and end keys don't work as they did with Bash 3.0. I compiled the latest Sakura 2.3.8 but it didn't help. I tried both your Bash 4.1 and the latest from Slackware and both fail my 'Sakura test'. Any ideas?

Until we figure it out, I'm using Bash 3.0 from Quirky 021 which works fine with Sakura.
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#628 Post by Q5sys »

tazoc wrote:Hi Q5sys,
The only niggle I've found with Bash 4.1 is that in Console-LHP (Sakura) terminal, the home and end keys don't work as they did with Bash 3.0. I compiled the latest Sakura 2.3.8 but it didn't help. I tried both your Bash 4.1 and the latest from Slackware and both fail my 'Sakura test'. Any ideas?

Until we figure it out, I'm using Bash 3.0 from Quirky 021 which works fine with Sakura.
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I'll do some digging, but what exactly did 'Home' and 'End' do with Bash 3 and sakura? without knowing what action you are trying to replicate... i might not be able to find the reason.

Personally, I never liked sakura, not that its bad or anything, but its a bit to small scale for me. I dont mind an app created mostly by a single person, but when it doesnt have really anyway to get support from the devs or have any bug listings, etc... I tend to shy away from it.
I normally use Konsole, however LXterm, aterm, xterm, rxvt and even TermIt; all get used occasionaly, and I find they have a stronger base of users/devs.

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#629 Post by tazoc »

Hi Q5sys,
When I'm typing in Sakura and LXTerm, 'Home' used to take me to the beginning of the line and 'End' to the end of the line. With Bash 4.1 the keys generate a '~' and don't move the cursor. In rxvt the keys work as they should and I don't have KDE loaded with Konsole yet to test with. It just occurred to me that's on a LHP 5.0 development system, so maybe I've got something else going on here. I will go back into 4.43, update Bash and see what happens.
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#630 Post by Q5sys »

tazoc wrote:Hi Q5sys,
When I'm typing in Sakura and LXTerm, 'Home' used to take me to the beginning of the line and 'End' to the end of the line. With Bash 4.1 the keys generate a '~' and don't move the cursor. In rxvt the keys work as they should and I don't have KDE loaded with Konsole yet to test with. It just occurred to me that's on a LHP 5.0 development system, so maybe I've got something else going on here. I will go back into 4.43, update Bash and see what happens.
Thanks,
TazOC
on 4.43 with Bash 4.1 it gives you the ~ instead of moving you around on the line. I got a message back from Sakura's developer... so I'll let you know if that leads me anywhere.

lastly, something I just noticed...
1) I can write to NTFS drives fine.
2) Truecrypt works fine.
3) If truecrypt partition is formated as NTFS, I cant write to it.
Any ideas?

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#631 Post by smokey01 »

tazoc,

I am now using lighthouse pup Gu3 as my mail OS as a full install on a 200G partition. What is a bit odd is the free indicator is only displaying 19G instead of 200G. I'm pretty sure this was not a problem with the frugal install.

Another issue is Seamonkey browser as it won't let you enter text into the "what's on your mind space" on Facebook. I managed to get it working by adding the line in about:config:

general.useragent.extra.fake user set string notFirefox/2.0.0.18

The third oddity is the network status icon often disappears, you know the two little blinking monitors next to sound volume icon.

I am also having problems getting CUPS to work with my printer too. I have installed the HP package with all the extra drivers which work on puppy 4.3.1 & 4.3.2. I will keep on trying but lack of printing is a show stopper.

All in all it's a solid distribution that works very well.

Thanks

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#632 Post by tazoc »

Q5sys wrote:1) I can write to NTFS drives fine.
2) Truecrypt works fine.
3) If truecrypt partition is formated as NTFS, I cant write to it.
Any ideas?
Mount as usual, except when TC prompts for a password, hit the 'Options' button at the lower RH corner, then at the bottom you'll see Mount Options--in there put '-t ntfs'.

@smokey01,
Hi and thank you for the feedback. I'll see if I can include the fix you gave for SM 2 useragent.

Can you clarify exactly what key to add (.extra.fake user?) and what about this add-on instead? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/59

Not sure about freespace in a full install. I think it only works on frugal as it measures the pupsave.

I haven't seen Blinky disappear before, which WM is that in? The tray icons in KDE4 sometimes 'hide' or switch icons, I don't know why.

I'm testing CUPS-1.3.11 for the next release; it is much improved. Although I don't have an HP printer to test with, mine is a Canon and it detects now w/o any intervention where as before it didn't.

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Webcam

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Hi TazOC,
This could be operator error again but I'm trying to activate the webcam on my notebook in LHPup.
I've been through the menus but I can't find any entry for a web camera.
Gtkam doesn't detect it - hardware info shows that the cam is detected (see pic).
Is it something to do with scanning? I searched this thread but only found possible link from member edoc about mplayer - nothing doing there. Any advice?
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#634 Post by tazoc »

Hi Barburo,
I tried the getting my cheap old USB Logitech web-cam to work with mplayer and v4l in Xorg 7.3 but no luck so far. I am including v4l with Xorg 7.5 and an updated mplayer in the next release and so far it detects my cam but no video, just a solid green window and some error messages. Not sure if it's my cam, the drivers or what. Didn't work in a new VLC I tried either. From what I've read the apps for web-cams in Puppy are mplayer, Xawtv, Skype and possibly VLC. If I get it working I'll let you know...
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#635 Post by edoc »

Just made a fresh burn of Gu2 and downloaded the Gu3 PET.

Any install hints before I wipe my son's laptop and make a nice clean new install of LHP?

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