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tazoc


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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 16:19    Post_subject:  

Hi Chris,
That's a very good idea, I'll put it in the next release.
Thanks,
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timremy

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 23:27    Post_subject: mouse usb
Sub_title: plugin
 

hello

same problem with 442. i have a usb optical mouse, to get it

to work, i have to unplug then plug it back in.

i have a intel m 900hz and 512 ram.

any ideas ?

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PostPosted: Fri 06 Nov 2009, 00:18    Post_subject: USB mouse have to unplug then plug back in  

timremy,
This is mysterious! Just so I understand, you have a laptop and in LHP 4.43b the touchpad works, but not the USB mouse--until you disconnect and reconnect the mouse.

And you tried another mouse and... same problem. But no problem with Puppy 4.31 (which has the same kernel and Xorg)?

Unfortunately I don't have a clue but maybe someone else has an idea or similar experience?
-TazOC

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PostPosted: Fri 06 Nov 2009, 01:27    Post_subject: mouse usb
Sub_title: plug in
 

hello tazoc

thank you for your honesty. you dont see too many

people tell the truth today.

thank you again.

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Barburo


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PostPosted: Fri 06 Nov 2009, 21:46    Post_subject: C-F  

Hi TazOC
I'm running 4.43b on my Sony Vaio that has Intel Graphics. I loaded the latest CF sfs and it really wants to work.
In LXDE I see the CF settings manager icon in the system tray, and I can right click on it and see the settings options.
Here's what happens:
Each time I open a Rox Filer window it's a blank wobbly window.
If I then resize the window either by max or min or size handles I can see the contents of the window.
Going from folder to folder in rox also needs resizing to properly see the contents of the window.
The start menu seeems to open up and display correctly (slight shiver on opening under C-F.
I'm so close I can almost taste it.
Any idea if there are settings I can change? Has anyone else seen this C-F behavior?
Barburo.

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PostPosted: Sat 07 Nov 2009, 01:23    Post_subject: module
Sub_title: load
 

hello tazoc

could i please get the name of the mouse module.

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tazoc


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PostPosted: Sat 07 Nov 2009, 15:22    Post_subject:  

@All using LHP 4.43-a or b,
I found a bug affecting KDE3,4 and possibly other window managers. Open /root/.xinitrc with a text editor and comment out line 65 like this:
Code:
# [ -x /usr/bin/kbuildsycoca ] && kbuildsycoca &>/dev/null & # TazOC
then restart X. The purpose of this line was to speed startup, but it messes up the menus under certain conditions and could cause instability. This fix will be in the next release.

Barburo,
Here are some possible workarounds, though I can't seem to reproduce the behavior you describe.

In the tray, right-click fusion-icon | Reload Window Manager.

In ROX-Filer, right-click Options | Filer Windows | tick 'Always Resize' | OK.

Also from fusion-icon | Select Window Manager | KWin, then from LXDE Menu | System | System Settings | Desktop | tick 'Enable Desktop Effects' | Apply | Accept Configuration. This uses KDE's configuration instead of C-F but the effects are similar. The same KDE Desktop Effects panel has tabs with a variety of settings to try.

timremy,
I opened Menu | System | 'Pupscan interface info' and these look like the kernel modules for a USB mouse:
usbcore, usbhid, ohci_hcd, ehci_hcd and maybe pci_hotplug, I don't know.

The script that could be responsible for detection is /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit. Not sure about the ramifications but you could try swapping out the rc.sysinit in LHP with the one in Puppy 4.3.1. Grab /etc/DISTRO_SPECS from Puppy also and change line 4 to DISTRO_VERSION=443. I would make backups first in case it messes up your system.
-TazOC

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Nov 2009, 06:40    Post_subject: mouse
Sub_title: usb
 

hello tazoc

thank you for your help.

still no mouse on my intel m 900 but everything works

on my intel dual core 1500 2g ram.

thank you


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Barburo


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PostPosted: Tue 10 Nov 2009, 04:38    Post_subject: CF  

Hi TazOC
Thanks for your suggestions - I had already tried all except switching on KDE effects.
I looked at tombh's "Compiz-Fusion for Puppy 4.0" page and added the lines he recommends for Intel graphics and to xorg.conf.

Good news - I can get CF working with both LXDE and KDE4 on my Sony Vaio which reports these specs (with atteched external monitor):
Quote:
-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz
Memory : 1024MB (440MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.44
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915GM 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2


Unfortunately I have to restart X Windows each time:

When I reboot into 443b (having left the WM as either KDE4 or LXDE ) I see the CF icon on screen. If I open a Rox filer window I get the same effects as previously - can only see window contents if I resize (just a pixel or two does it) but they don't work properly. Some menu items display correctly - others don't. When I exit and restart X Windows then CF works as it should in both KDE4 and LXDE .

... a bit perplexing (can't think of a good reason why I have to do this) but I'm now happily using CF with the Sony Vaio.
B.

**Edit I tried the KDE effects in LXDE and they work! Wobbly windows, desktop cube, snow etc. ... but same problem as with CF - I need to restart X Windows before the window contents display correctly.
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PostPosted: Mon 16 Nov 2009, 16:15    Post_subject: feedback  

Hi TazOC
Couple of quick queries:

I'm using wbar in LXDE with C-F. I've changed the LXDE taskbar from bottom to top and the wbar to the bottom. How do I get the wbar icons to rise when I mouse-over them (rather than fall)? I changed some of the wbar parameters in /startup/wbar and also tried wbar --help but I cannot see a relevant parameter. ***Edit - it was the jump parameter - (operator error again!)

In both KDE and LXDE when I start any application or window it starts behind the other windows - normally I would expect focus to change directly to the new window. Clicking on the window does change the focus.
***Edit Changed C-F Focus prevention level to low - solved problem.

Where do you add to or change the icons/applications on the LXDE taskbar? The defaults are Filesystem Defaultbrowser Geany LXTerminal. (Or is it better to just use wbar)? I'm becoming a fan of LXDE. Using LXDE/ Openbox in 443b I find that it's fast, very very fast. And super fast shutdown too.

B.

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Nov 2009, 19:25    Post_subject:  

Just for info: Acer Aspire One. Intel Atom,1gig ram,160gig HD Running Live USB. LighthousePup4.43-b_Mariner.iso

Wireless connects. Land line eth0 connects.
Screen Resolution OK
Sound works
Touch pad tap is a no go.
Flash is OK
Switching from JWM, to LXDE to Icewm = No Problems
Changing Icewm themes no problem.
Conky is to big for 10" screen. You lose the bottom.

Kewl looking Puppy Tazoc. Likey. Very Happy

Short test for today.

Edit: Shutdown doesn't complete. Left with a brown checkerboard at bottom of screen about 1 inch tall with just a few blue squares above.
Like I said. Just for info.
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Nov 2009, 19:44    Post_subject:  

Barburo and rokytnji,
Thank you for the feedback. I'm working on the next release, based on Puppy 4.3.1 and am wondering if I need to pre-extract the /lib/modules/all-firmware archives. Maybe it won't be necessary? If you've tried the latest Puppy and had to manually put firmware into /lib/firmware, please let me know.

Barburo, Thank you, I didn't know how to use the -jumpf parameter for wbar. Looks like -jumpf 1 works best for bottom of the screen and -jumpf 0 for the top. Learn something every day! I'll put that into the next release.

To edit the lxpanel quick launch icons, in LXDE click Menu | Settings | LXPanel Configuration | Plugins | Application Launch bar | Edit, then Add or Remove. Select an item and click on the arrows to re-arrange. Takes effect immediately. Each item is associated with a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/.
-TazOC

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Nov 2009, 21:48    Post_subject:  

Quote:
If you've tried the latest Puppy and had to manually put firmware into /lib/firmware, please let me know.


Sorry Tazoc. I was just taking your distro for a test run ( a short one) just to see if it would boot and connect. I didn't load any firmware since I was running live.

If I install it. I would probably do a search for the firmware for touchpad tap. And search for editing shutdown file. I have quite a few laptops of different makes and models, Some ancient. Some Newer.

Unfortunately that means I have a lot of distros on these laptops that take up my time as far as configuring,updating,installing and experimenting.

Sorry I am not much help.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Nov 2009, 16:50    Post_subject:  

@rokytnji
I think Barry (original Puppy developer) had a laptop with a touch pad and got annoyed that it kept interfering with his typing so in Xorg.conf he set the tap time to zero deliberately. My xorg.conf has this entry
Quote:
Option "MaxTapTime" "0"

I believe that setting this option to 170 or 180 (experiment to find what works) will get the touch pad working. If you do a forum search (use
http://www.wellminded.com/puppy/pupsearch.html
for best results) you should find some more information.
See also this link http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=18339

@TazOC, I thought you were probably working on another version - looking forward to testing it out.
My previous post re:443b was
Quote:
I copied three firmware files for my wireless card from /lib/firmware in 442 to same location in 443:
ipw2200-bss.fw
ipw2200-ibss.fw
ipw2200-sniffer.fw
...and my wireless now works.

I'm not sure if this means you need to extract firmware as in 442.

B.

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Nov 2009, 17:25    Post_subject:  

@Barburo

Thanks for the tips. Made a document file of your response to peruse later. Happy Trails, Rok Very Happy
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