Lighthouse Pup 4.43 Gu2 215M

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tazoc · #46 Post by **tazoc** » Sat 24 Oct 2009, 16:12

Lighthouse Pup 4.43 Beta released, Base ISO 211M. For details, see http://www.lhpup.org/#News.

Mariner ISO, Mariner, KDE, Voyager and C-F add-ons also updated.
-TazOC

Jim1911 · #47 Post by **Jim1911** » Sat 24 Oct 2009, 16:34

TazOC,

Super job as usual.

Something is broken with Amarok though. Clicking on the icon tries to start it, but all you see is a quick blink on the panel bar (KDE4). Typing "amarok" returns " -bash: amarok: command not found".

Otherwise everything that I've checked in the KDE4 desktop works fine.

Thanks again,
Jim

tazoc · #48 Post by **tazoc** » Sat 24 Oct 2009, 16:47

Hi Jim,
That's strange, it works here. Try 'amarok1' in a terminal. I kept 'amarok' reserved for v.2 but so far it doesn't work, hence the 'not found'. If that works, try Amarok 1.4.10 in the Multimedia Menu. Also see if Amarok works in KDE3, please.
Thanks,
TazOC

Jim1911 · #49 Post by **Jim1911** » Sat 24 Oct 2009, 17:28

TazOC,

I get the following message:

-bash-3.00# amarok1
Amarok: [Loader] Starting amarokapp..
Amarok: [Loader] Don't run gdb, valgrAmarok:
Amarok is taking a long time to load! Perhaps something has gone wrong?

EDIT: You posted as I was editing this post. I always start with a clean pup_save. Amarok is working with KDE3.5, however, I did get an error message that was to quick to catch, some file not supported. It is playing my itunes collection fine.

Later I will download Mariner and KDE again and see if that will help with KDE4. It'll probably be tomorrow before I can followup though.

Thanks,
Jim

tazoc · #50 Post by **tazoc** » Sat 24 Oct 2009, 17:40

Ok, Amarok1 is part of the KDE SFS, might want to check the md5sums on both your Mariner and KDE SFS. (I started with a clean pup_save here.)
-TazOC

pemasu · #51 Post by **pemasu** » Sat 24 Oct 2009, 23:29

Fishback has done excellent job to gather working information of the wireless cards and their needs.

Everybody who has problems with the wifi should check his post, Mine wifi started to work in the lighthouse pup after his recommendation.

Updated: October 20, 2009

Thread under:
Murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=150903764&t=47367

Best regards

Jim1911 · #52 Post by **Jim1911** » Sun 25 Oct 2009, 04:16

Hi TazOC,

Tried Amarok again with your big Lighthouse Pup Mariner ISO. Had identical results as indicated above.

Bad news, turned computer off for 12 hours, upon restarting today KDE3.5.10 will not load. As I recall yesterday it did balk at starting initially, but with a restart it ran fine. But now it blinks on the hd icon of the opening screen for about 2 minutes and then goes to an arrow cursor. Ctrl alt backspace goes to a prompt and I can start JWM and then am able to switch to LXDE, Icewm, and KDE4. KDE3 still will not start.

To check it out further and avoid contamination from other installations, I reformatted a small ext4 partition to ext3 and set up a new frugal installation with new downloads of KDE and Mariner, and a new pup save. Results are the same, KDE3 will not run. KDE4 still will not start Amarok, although indications are slightly different, Amarok 1.4.10 blinks briefly on the panel.

Sorry about bad report,
Jim

System: BFG NVIDIA Geforce 8400 GS 512MB, Asus P6T Motherboard, Intel core i7-920 (8MB Cache, 2.66 GHz), DDR3 3GB 1333MHz ram, Pioneer DVR-2910 DVD+-RW Dual Layer Burner, Realtek ALC1200 Audio, Dell 1702 Digital Flat Panel Display, HP Photosmart 5280 All-in-One, Printer-Scanner-Copier

pemasu · #53 Post by **pemasu** » Sun 25 Oct 2009, 21:57

It took a lot of work and experimenting. At last Cups 1.3.11, HPLIP, hp-setup from console for downloading the driver and last but not the least was HP device manager from the utility > Firmware download was the missing piece.

If somebody need exact methods, I will gladly help.

Best regards

Arek · #54 Post by **Arek** » Tue 27 Oct 2009, 04:14

I kinda like this pup, but I do have one problem/question: I noticed that (as of alpha, haven't tried beta) it doesn't support using a Frugal install, but then saving to the entire HDD (instead of a pupsave). Is there any particular reason for this? It's the one feature from the standard puppy that I truly miss.

--Arek
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tazoc · #55 Post by **tazoc** » Tue 27 Oct 2009, 17:39

Arek,
Thank you for the feedback. This is noted in the first post under bugs

Frugal install works well, but in testing a full hd install with GRUB gave "Error 2, bad file or directory type" (reason unknown.)

I'm working on a new release built around Puppy 4.3.1 and hopefully will address this shortcoming.

Myself I prefer the frugal install for a variety of reasons. I just tested a full install with Puppy 4.3.1 only and it worked after editing my GRUB configuration. Still don't know why it doesn't work in LHP.
-TazOC

tazoc · #56 Post by **tazoc** » Tue 27 Oct 2009, 18:12

Jim1911,
Sounds like LHP443 is far from ideal! For you and the benefit of others who might have problems with KDE startup, here is an excerpt from http://userbase.kde.org/General_KDE_Problems. Before attempting this, switch to JWM, open a terminal and type 'killall kmix3'. Open qps and also kill any processes that begin with 'kde'.

Clean out /tmp and /var/tmp. KDE stores some temporary files which can sometimes cause problems. You might also like to try removing the following files. Make sure you exit KDE first though!:
~/.DCOPserver-* (on KDE3 systems there are usually two of these; one is a symlink to the other)
~/.kde/socket-<hostname>
~/.kde/tmp-<hostname> which is normally a symlink to the next file:
/tmp/tmp-kde-<USER>
~/.kde/socket-<hostname> which is also normally a symlink to:
/tmp/ksocket-<USER>

In LHP this is complicated a bit by the presence of both KDE3 and 4 files, so your mileage may vary.

There is also a blurb on sound problems at http://userbase.kde.org/Sound_Problems
I think Amarok and KDE4 are a bit like GRUB--it's great when it works, but when it doesn't... you're left wondering now what?
-TazOC

Arek · #57 Post by **Arek** » Tue 27 Oct 2009, 19:51

tazoc wrote:Arek,
Thank you for the feedback. This is noted in the first post under bugs
Frugal install works well, but in testing a full hd install with GRUB gave "Error 2, bad file or directory type" (reason unknown.)
I'm working on a new release built around Puppy 4.3.1 and hopefully will address this shortcoming.

Myself I prefer the frugal install for a variety of reasons. I just tested a full install with Puppy 4.3.1 only and it worked after editing my GRUB configuration. Still don't know why it doesn't work in LHP.
-TazOC

Ok, thanks. Your wording on the problem is what threw me off. To me, a "full hd install" means no frugal.

--Arek

EDIT: I just remembered...I had this problem myself with another puppy, and had to correct it. The cause was, in my case, having a newer ext2/3/4 version than grub knows how to handle. The solution, for me, was to use an older e2fstools. Hope this helps.

--Arek

EDIT2: After rereading your post, I think you misunderstood me. I, too, use a frugal install, but I prefer to not use a pup_save.2fs file (which can be no larger than 8G, for technical, or possibly historical reasons), but instead save to my entire HDD (allowing me to effectively use the whole 300G I have available).

--Arek

Barburo · #58 Post by **Barburo** » Fri 30 Oct 2009, 16:37

Hi Taz,
I was recently updating from 4.43 a to b on a machine that has the mariner .iso

Please check your lhpup page for the link for

2009-10-23 LighthousePup-4.43-a-b_Mariner.iso.xdelta3 71M Update 4.43 Mariner ISO Alpha to Beta

It seems to point at this file:
http://www.lhpup.org/beta/lhp443/Lighth ... so.xdelta3

which I believe is not the correct one.

B.

tazoc · #59 Post by **tazoc** » Fri 30 Oct 2009, 22:50

Thank you Barburo, it is fixed.
Have a good weekend,
TazOC

chris · #60 Post by **chris** » Wed 04 Nov 2009, 09:40

Hi Tazoc

I noticed that gkrellm and wbar appear in the JWM task bar. Seems like they shouldn't normally be visible, especially wbar which you don't want to be able to kill with an accidental mouseclick. I found out that if you add these lines to /root/.jwmrc then they won't show up. Add after the </RootMenu> line.

<Group>
<Class>wbar</Class>
<Name>wbar</Name>
<Option>nolist</Option>
</Group>

<Group>
<Class>gkrellm</Class>
<Name>gkrellm</Name>
<Option>nolist</Option>
</Group>

nice work with lhp.

tazoc · #61 Post by **tazoc** » Thu 05 Nov 2009, 20:19

Hi Chris,
That's a very good idea, I'll put it in the next release.
Thanks,
TazOC

timremy · #62 Post by **timremy** » Fri 06 Nov 2009, 03:27

hello

same problem with 442. i have a usb optical mouse, to get it

to work, i have to unplug then plug it back in.

i have a intel m 900hz and 512 ram.

any ideas ?

timremy

tazoc · #63 Post by **tazoc** » Fri 06 Nov 2009, 04:18

timremy,
This is mysterious! Just so I understand, you have a laptop and in LHP 4.43b the touchpad works, but not the USB mouse--until you disconnect and reconnect the mouse.

And you tried another mouse and... same problem. But no problem with Puppy 4.31 (which has the same kernel and Xorg)?

Unfortunately I don't have a clue but maybe someone else has an idea or similar experience?
-TazOC

timremy · #64 Post by **timremy** » Fri 06 Nov 2009, 05:27

hello tazoc

thank you for your honesty. you dont see too many

people tell the truth today.

thank you again.

timremy

Barburo · #65 Post by **Barburo** » Sat 07 Nov 2009, 01:46

Hi TazOC
I'm running 4.43b on my Sony Vaio that has Intel Graphics. I loaded the latest CF sfs and it really wants to work.
In LXDE I see the CF settings manager icon in the system tray, and I can right click on it and see the settings options.
Here's what happens:
Each time I open a Rox Filer window it's a blank wobbly window.
If I then resize the window either by max or min or size handles I can see the contents of the window.
Going from folder to folder in rox also needs resizing to properly see the contents of the window.
The start menu seeems to open up and display correctly (slight shiver on opening under C-F.
I'm so close I can almost taste it.
Any idea if there are settings I can change? Has anyone else seen this C-F behavior?
Barburo.

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