Puppy 4.3.1 -- bug reports and suggestions

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r__hughes · #91 Post by **r__hughes** » Thu 05 Nov 2009, 01:39

I'm sure I read some recent messages concerning persistent pile-up of desktop drive icons at low screen resolutions. I have tried to search for the messages but can't find them. Was there a solution?

I am experiencing this on a Samsung N110 web-book with Xorg and a 1024x600 screen running puppy431 from a bootable flash USB. Whenever I insert additional USB Flash-drives or an external USB DVD RW the icons pile up at the bottom left of the screen. The icons can be drag/dropped to new locations but the problem recurs if the drives are removed then reinserted.

PS I have to use Xorg because Xvesa gives me a reverse colour graphic display.

dawg · #92 Post by **dawg** » Fri 06 Nov 2009, 00:35

I boot my frugal Puppy with Grub.
I try telling Puppy to not load the sfs file into RAM (pfix=noram), but it does so regardless.
Could this be fixed somehow?

Also, I have my frugal pup installed on sda6, and just recently, I've copied it to sda2 and found that, inspite of being told otherwise, pup decided to load itself from there at the next boot.
Out of curiosity, I've also copied it to sda1, and sure enough, it would load itself from there next.
Renaming the folder on sda1/2 helped against this, but I'm not sure is Puppy supposed to be doing this when being frugal-installed on a HDD?

ICPUG · #93 Post by **ICPUG** » Fri 06 Nov 2009, 12:41

dawg

I'm not sure I understand your point

What did you copy to sda2 and why do you want to copy it there but not load it from there?

Are you trying to save you pupsave file on a different partition to the sfs file, vmlinuz, initrd.gz?

If so, then it might not easily work in pup 4.3.1.

dawg · #94 Post by **dawg** » Fri 06 Nov 2009, 14:28

ICPUG,
I copied the whole puppy folder as it is, in order to use it separately and only when I explicitly want to boot it.
For example, I have 2 entries in Grub's menu.lst, each for its own pup that are each on its own partition, but if their folder names happen to be the same, whichever entry I boot, the kernel does load from where it's supposed to, but then proceeds to loading the sfs (and the save file) from the first partition of the two (or three).

I'm only pointing this out in case it happens to be "undesired behaviour", and also so that more people will know what the problem is and how to solve it if it happens to someone else.

sindi · #95 Post by **sindi** » Fri 06 Nov 2009, 17:37

Change pup-430 to 431 and puppy 3.x to 4.31? The file names for download in special puppies are correct.

clarf · #96 Post by **clarf** » Fri 06 Nov 2009, 19:29

r__hughes wrote:I'm sure I read some recent messages concerning persistent pile-up of desktop drive icons at low screen resolutions. I have tried to search for the messages but can't find them. Was there a solution?

I am experiencing this on a Samsung N110 web-book with Xorg and a 1024x600 screen running puppy431 from a bootable flash USB. Whenever I insert additional USB Flash-drives or an external USB DVD RW the icons pile up at the bottom left of the screen. The icons can be drag/dropped to new locations but the problem recurs if the drives are removed then reinserted.

PS I have to use Xorg because Xvesa gives me a reverse colour graphic display.

Here is the url you were looking for:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=256

It´s the solution working in dpup and 214X, thanks to MinHundHettePerro

Greetings,
clarf

PaulBx1 · #97 Post by **PaulBx1** » Sat 07 Nov 2009, 15:09

"puppy pfix=fsck" still does nothing.

Pizzasgood researched this problem, apparently a line commented out in init.gz that shouldn't be. See this thread:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41918

The commented line is:

Code: Select all

#fsck_func loop1 ext2 $PUPSAVEFILE #v3.01. no, removed, takes ages, and won't mount afterward.

Uncomment it, and it works fine, according to Pizzasgood.

Hope we can get this fixed in 4.3.2, heh. It's a bear to deal with manually, especially for noobs who won't know about that thread.

PaulBx1 · #98 Post by **PaulBx1** » Sat 07 Nov 2009, 15:25

The "save file" dialog window always gets positioned with the bottom of the window off the screen, on my 1280x800 display.

capoverde · #99 Post by **capoverde** » Mon 09 Nov 2009, 12:17

This is a really queer bug, although nothing similar comes up searching in this thread. Stumbled in it this morning, when trying to burn an audio CD with Puppy 4.3.1's PBurn.

On the disc, all tracks are cut to about 1,5 secs playing time - but there's much worse: even all source *.wav files in the list are crippled to 544 KB each!!! Luckily I had another copy of the originals...

It appears that the crippling happens at the very start of the burning command. During the burn, this message appears for every track:

>WARNING: padding to secsize
>burning 144k of pad data

which I don't remember having seen in previous versions.

Tried booting Puppy 4.3.1 off another CD, with pfix=ram; even tried burning a different kind of CD -- same thing. The ISO's MD5 checks OK; all else seems to work regularly on this box (AMD Athlon 1800, 512 MB Ram, XVesa 1280x1024). PBurn had plenty of space for temporary files (>5GB) and a hardware defect seems unlikely as the ISO was burned successfully.

Although it's not a frequent job here, several audio CDs have been burnt with PBurn in previous Puppy versions on this same machine without problems. I'll try again with one of them to see if they still work right, and with 4.3.1 on other boxes: this behavior is too strange.

ICPUG · #100 Post by **ICPUG** » Mon 09 Nov 2009, 13:06

Dawg

I understand what you are doing now.

Use of the PDEV1 kernel parameter should solve this problem - if it doesn't then it is undesirable behaviour!

PMEDIA - tells it which type of drive
PDEV1 - tells it which partition
PSUBDIR - tells it which directory (only 1 level deep).

The PDEV1 should act as a filter to eradicate from the search list entries for the puppies from other partitions.

capoverde · #101 Post by **capoverde** » Mon 09 Nov 2009, 13:40

Re my previous post: just burned an audio CD with PBurn in Puppy4.1.3 without any crippling. This means that there actually is a nasty file-crippling bug in PBurn! Hope it's also easy to crush...

* * * Also noticed that burning a CD with PBurn takes many more CPU resources in Puppy 4.3.1 than in the elder 4.1.3: in fact, with the latter I typed the first paragraph of this post during the actual burning process, while in Pupppy 4.3.1 it is pretty much impossible to do anything till the end of the burn.

laserman · #102 Post by **laserman** » Tue 10 Nov 2009, 00:32

vtpup wrote:
laserman wrote:When booting up, I get:

-sh: setenv: command not found.

It doesn't seem to affect the overall operation but was noted during boot up.

After booting up, opening the console, I get:

bash: setenv: command not found

Posted for the group and noted VTPUP also received the same error previously.

Best Regards,
John
A c shell script somewhere is being attempted by bash. Possible clues to where if you do a pfind for *.csh. Check to see if any of these are in some kind of startup folder or associated with the app startup that you experience it in.

It is in the Realplay.csh file where I installed Realplayer. I will remove it as it was only a test. No bug issue here in that regard. Here is the gist of the file.

# Do not modify this file.
# It will be replaced during update or reinstall.
# If modification is desired, rename the file.

# Ex. PATH=${PATH}:/opt/real/RealPlayer

setenv PATH ${PATH}:/opt/real/RealPlayer

Best Regards,
John

stiginge · #103 Post by **stiginge** » Wed 11 Nov 2009, 16:24

After installing mplayer plugin and codecs from package manager as suggested by tubby on page1 of this thread, still cannot get http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm?clipSRC=LiveBTV to play in either firefox or seamonkey. Also checked in browser prefs and javascript is enabled. What can I do now?

arby · #104 Post by **arby** » Thu 12 Nov 2009, 03:14

I've had Puppy on these jumpdrives since version 4.0, without issues.
However, something about boot files must have changed with 4.3.1.
Now when I install 4.3.1 to my 512mb drive, the files copy but it always
says Not A Bootable Device. I can reformat, set flag with GParted etc,
no dice. Once the 4.3.1 ISO has been on it, it doesn't boot again even
if I go back to earlier puppy versions.

I was able to 'force' 4.3.1 onto a 2GB drive with the Unetbootin utility,
but even that will not work on the 512mb Lexar.

This all worked before. What changed? What am I missing?

tubby · #105 Post by **tubby** » Thu 12 Nov 2009, 08:45

@stiginge, download and install mplayer from package manager and it should work ok from your FF, i already had it installed

so i forgot that you would need it also.

otropogo · #106 Post by **otropogo** » Thu 12 Nov 2009, 14:03

Wondered what happened to the utility bar activatd in Puppy 4.2.1 by moving the cursor to the top of the desktop.

I thought I'd found the solution in the Menu/Desktop/Ptray-utility bar tab, but clicking on it doesn't do anything on my system...

Is there a trick to it, or is it a bug?

rjbrewer · #107 Post by **rjbrewer** » Thu 12 Nov 2009, 15:25

Widgets that were part of 4.2 do not exist in 4.3.

Two very different Puppies.

Read their histories.

MinHundHettePerro · Thu 12 Nov 2009, 17:50

otropogo wrote:Wondered what happened to the utility bar activatd in Puppy 4.2.1 by moving the cursor to the top of the desktop.

I thought I'd found the solution in the Menu/Desktop/Ptray-utility bar tab, but clicking on it doesn't do anything on my system...

Is there a trick to it, or is it a bug?

Just thinking aloud here, did you install a .pet with the Ptray-utility from 4.2x? The Ptray is, as far as I know, only utilising JWM-built-in's, and would, unless there was a pinstall-script included, need the following commands to be run:
fixmenus
jwm -restart.

Just loud-thinking

/
MHHP

stiginge · #109 Post by **stiginge** » Thu 12 Nov 2009, 21:12

Tubby: I installed mplayer1.0rc2-071007-1, also have mplayer_codecs_full-20071007 and mplayerplug-in-3.45. However unfortunately it still doesn't run bloomberg tv @ http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm?clipSRC=LiveBTV. For a few seconds it says 'buffering' and an IP address shows onscreen, but then the connection breaks down and I'm left with 'stopped' in the window.

If it matters, mplayer also completely locks up my machine when I open it from the menu (the cd-rom also moves for a short while when mplayer is started).

tubby · #110 Post by **tubby** » Thu 12 Nov 2009, 21:54

I have just installed the pets on a new installation of puppy 431 running FF3.6 beta1 and i am connected at this moment to the Bloomberg site, did you try altering the video prefs by right clicking on the stream window?.
The only other thing that might work for you is to install libnetsnmp, check dependencies of the installed pets.

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