Puppy 4.3.1 -- bug reports and suggestions
Just got around to actually trying an upgrade, from 4.1.2 (from which I had uninstalled all pet packages). Wow, the upgrade process is seriously broken.
Here is a screenshot of my icons, including folder icons in a rox window. Also note the missing menu icons, and that there is no yellow dot on sda2. The bootmanager/icon issue shouldn't be a problem here because I am not loading anything with the bootmanager:
Here is another. In this one I was looking for the versioncleanup directory in /tmp. I found it in /initrd/pup_rw/tmp, but not in /tmp. This tells me unionfs is not working right:
Another item is that I had set up a root password in 4.1.2, but this did not come across in the upgrade. In other words, I was automatically logged in as root without password, the standard Puppy setup.
This is a shame. Booting pfix=ram looked very good for me. Not sure what to do now.
Here is a screenshot of my icons, including folder icons in a rox window. Also note the missing menu icons, and that there is no yellow dot on sda2. The bootmanager/icon issue shouldn't be a problem here because I am not loading anything with the bootmanager:
Here is another. In this one I was looking for the versioncleanup directory in /tmp. I found it in /initrd/pup_rw/tmp, but not in /tmp. This tells me unionfs is not working right:
Another item is that I had set up a root password in 4.1.2, but this did not come across in the upgrade. In other words, I was automatically logged in as root without password, the standard Puppy setup.
This is a shame. Booting pfix=ram looked very good for me. Not sure what to do now.
For my limited use it's all pretty much good to go - as a bugfix to p430 'ironed out'. About the only minor nits for me are
1) some uncommenting of /usr/bin/restartwm, wmexit, wmpoweroff and wmreboot (3 lines towards or at end) to enable plogout, etc without having to 'kick' action with ctrl+alt+bs .. thanx for the hint from elsewhere, runtt21 - could this be an issue for anyone else?
2) maybe wakepup2 could be updated to see other fs than fat16/32? or .. was trying to boot to thumbdrive (formatted .3fs) without liveCD as part of the ongoing adventure in trying other ways (old BIOS only has floppy, CD and HDD) and I finally gave up (stepping thru little things like 'does the name need an _ rather than a -' and commands I haven't much clue about gets old quickly for me )
3) remaster went fine, was fairly simple to fix the 'upgrade'/restoring 'official' stuff .. and this time I even got acpi=force into isolinux.config so a full poweroff is standard on my vintageware
addendi-re to previous posts..
p1- @gerry, simply rename (example ._2fs) the extension works for me 100% of the time *oops*, tempting the gremlins "..interesting" I've seen when the dog finds tasty savefile(s) on hdd or *wherever* and gulps without asking, gnz11
user option of free or used displayed as % of available-total or #/# - gui can be tricky and displaying such for optical drives is probably better left to burner s/w, imvho
yep, nubc - one of the reasons I like to clear the deck (especially something like a lock or any encrypt/password/etc), when buttonmasks were working for jwm I even did the x as a Q to remind myself of the usual key
hmmz, /tmp/versioncleanup definite for me (with switch of 'dummy' 1st savefile to a copy/rename of p425's in another pup and then 2nd p431 boot)
mmya - there's a lot to be said for the (standard on liveCD multi) user-choice of save/no_save .. may have touched on that in ref to save2flash option on the last real testreport I did (p425?)
fwiw, I think the save for all the personal adds I did started back around .. maybe up476 and p431 suffers them well
1) some uncommenting of /usr/bin/restartwm, wmexit, wmpoweroff and wmreboot (3 lines towards or at end) to enable plogout, etc without having to 'kick' action with ctrl+alt+bs .. thanx for the hint from elsewhere, runtt21 - could this be an issue for anyone else?
2) maybe wakepup2 could be updated to see other fs than fat16/32? or .. was trying to boot to thumbdrive (formatted .3fs) without liveCD as part of the ongoing adventure in trying other ways (old BIOS only has floppy, CD and HDD) and I finally gave up (stepping thru little things like 'does the name need an _ rather than a -' and commands I haven't much clue about gets old quickly for me )
3) remaster went fine, was fairly simple to fix the 'upgrade'/restoring 'official' stuff .. and this time I even got acpi=force into isolinux.config so a full poweroff is standard on my vintageware
addendi-re to previous posts..
p1- @gerry, simply rename (example ._2fs) the extension works for me 100% of the time *oops*, tempting the gremlins "..interesting" I've seen when the dog finds tasty savefile(s) on hdd or *wherever* and gulps without asking, gnz11
user option of free or used displayed as % of available-total or #/# - gui can be tricky and displaying such for optical drives is probably better left to burner s/w, imvho
yep, nubc - one of the reasons I like to clear the deck (especially something like a lock or any encrypt/password/etc), when buttonmasks were working for jwm I even did the x as a Q to remind myself of the usual key
hmmz, /tmp/versioncleanup definite for me (with switch of 'dummy' 1st savefile to a copy/rename of p425's in another pup and then 2nd p431 boot)
mmya - there's a lot to be said for the (standard on liveCD multi) user-choice of save/no_save .. may have touched on that in ref to save2flash option on the last real testreport I did (p425?)
fwiw, I think the save for all the personal adds I did started back around .. maybe up476 and p431 suffers them well
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OpenOffice Documents via ROX
I installed Pup_431.iso on USB Flash Drive.
Added OpenOffice_311_sfs4.sfs to /mnt/home
Have icons for OpenOffice apps on desktop.
How do I modify the system and/or ROX configuration to be able to click on the filename of an OO saved file and have it start OpenOffice and open the file?
I would like to support wordprocessor files (.odt, .doc, .txt, .docx ....)
spreadsheets (.ods, excel, ....)
and soforth for all savable OpenOffice file formats.
Please be detailed. Thanks,
I want to automate this so I can pass out disks of Puppy 431 with OpenOffice
to every Windows User I meet!!!
-Bruce.
Added OpenOffice_311_sfs4.sfs to /mnt/home
Have icons for OpenOffice apps on desktop.
How do I modify the system and/or ROX configuration to be able to click on the filename of an OO saved file and have it start OpenOffice and open the file?
I would like to support wordprocessor files (.odt, .doc, .txt, .docx ....)
spreadsheets (.ods, excel, ....)
and soforth for all savable OpenOffice file formats.
Please be detailed. Thanks,
I want to automate this so I can pass out disks of Puppy 431 with OpenOffice
to every Windows User I meet!!!
-Bruce.
Re: Swap labels in Partview
DemostiX :Labels are in the wrong place in the recent .pet
I do agree.ecube wrote:Good point!
Anybody else of the same opinion?
/Olov
We can do some as like:
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412 to 431
I had the same problems as you in a 412 to 430 upgrade (I have since done also 430 to 431). I got the icons back by using the "Desktop Icon Switcher". I had not un-installed the pets in 412 like you before the upgrade but that's a very good idea. I had to in the upgraded 430 do the re-install of all my pets to get them into the package manager. I also lost my root password prompt at bootup so had to edit /etc/inittab.PaulBx1 wrote:Just got around to actually trying an upgrade, from 4.1.2 (from which I had uninstalled all pet packages). Wow, the upgrade process is seriously broken.
Here is a screenshot of my icons, including folder icons in a rox window. Also note the missing menu icons, and that there is no yellow dot on sda2. The bootmanager/icon issue shouldn't be a problem here because I am not loading anything with the bootmanager:
Here is another. In this one I was looking for the versioncleanup directory in /tmp. I found it in /initrd/pup_rw/tmp, but not in /tmp. This tells me unionfs is not working right:
Another item is that I had set up a root password in 4.1.2, but this did not come across in the upgrade. In other words, I was automatically logged in as root without password, the standard Puppy setup.
This is a shame. Booting pfix=ram looked very good for me. Not sure what to do now.
Other than that most things work. The only major thing not working is ALSA which had no master volume and the volume icon on the system tray is always muted on boot up and does not change the volume either. This has been reported several time but no response so far. Also the Network wizard is still shaky for me so I still avoid this and use my own script (as I had to do in 412) to get WiFi/WPA working. A recent major improvement at least for me was to rename /etc/rc.d/rc.network to something else so it does not clash with my own script otherwise I was getting 2 wpa_supplicant sessions running.
Rgds Mike
EeePC901
PartView revision
Thanks Shinobar! Much better. I have revised PartView accordingly.
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Re: OpenOffice Documents via ROX
Easy. Right click on a document you want to open and choose "Set Run Action". Enter "scalc "$@" (WO quotes) to open a Oo spreadsheet. Swriter for the word processor etc. Click on "Use Command" to apply your run-actionBruce_n_Duane wrote:I installed Pup_431.iso on USB Flash Drive.
Added OpenOffice_311_sfs4.sfs to /mnt/home
Have icons for OpenOffice apps on desktop.
How do I modify the system and/or ROX configuration to be able to click on the filename of an OO saved file and have it start OpenOffice and open the file?
I would like to support wordprocessor files (.odt, .doc, .txt, .docx ....)
spreadsheets (.ods, excel, ....)
and soforth for all savable OpenOffice file formats.
Please be detailed. Thanks,
I want to automate this so I can pass out disks of Puppy 431 with OpenOffice
to every Windows User I meet!!!
-Bruce.
Rgds Mike
Mike, that desktop icon switcher app only changes the icons that already exist (e.g., the connect icon) and does nothing with those other things that are just missing (e.g. my browse or write icons). Oh, it did bring the menu icons back though.
I have no problem with ALSA or the tray volume slider; maybe Barry also sees no problem and thus cannot fix them. Well, my alsamixer settings did not come across in the upgrade, kind of a small thing.
I'm still worried about unionfs not working properly.
I have no problem with ALSA or the tray volume slider; maybe Barry also sees no problem and thus cannot fix them. Well, my alsamixer settings did not come across in the upgrade, kind of a small thing.
I'm still worried about unionfs not working properly.
Missing Icons & Alsamixer
Perhaps my recollection is wrong but in any case all the icons are now fine. MikePaulBx1 wrote:Mike, that desktop icon switcher app only changes the icons that already exist (e.g., the connect icon) and does nothing with those other things that are just missing (e.g. my browse or write icons). Oh, it did bring the menu icons back though.
I think this is just a Eee thing as on my Acer Aspire 5100 Alsamixer and the tray volume work fine. I have put a post about this in the Extra's for the 2.6.30.5 thread where some specials for Eee PC's are developed.PaulBx1 wrote: I have no problem with ALSA or the tray volume slider; maybe Barry also sees no problem and thus cannot fix them. Well, my alsamixer settings did not come across in the upgrade, kind of a small thing.
Mike
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OpenOffice via ROX
Thank Mike, that works great!!!
Mike = mawebb88 wrote:
Mike = mawebb88 wrote:
-bruce.[/quote]
Easy. Right click on a document you want to open and choose "Set Run Action". Enter "scalc "$@" (WO quotes) to open a Oo spreadsheet. Swriter for the word processor etc. Click on "Use Command" to apply your run-action
I tried again to upgrade from 4.1.2 (2.6.25.16 kernal) frugal to 4.3.1 final (late kernel). I renamed a copy of my pup-save to pupsave and booted.
X kept crashing this time. Couldn't even get past xorgwizard. Tried xvesa and xorg. No go. Xwin couldn't start the windows.
When it dropped me to terminal mode I did see some error messages --
(sorry for any typos above -- I had to hand copy that into my normal scribble, and then hunt and peck it into here)
Edit: snipped. Problems were resolved by:
1.) removing files /etc/profile.d/libglib2.csh and qt.csh, while leaving the.sh versions of those same files intact. Bash tries to run the Cshell programs on startup. Equivalent bash programs are already in place.
2.) recognizing that when xorgwizard runs from the command line and xvesa is chosen the subsequent console prompt does NOT mean that xwin failed to start. This is a different action from the xorg choice. Xvesa must be started by explicitly typing xwin after choosing Xvesa. When I did this I was able to start x in 431 and then work on the other problems from the GUI.
3.) realizing that nv is gone in the later kernel modules. Downloading and compiling and installing proprietary kernel drivers from NVIDIA and allowing the installer to modify xorg.conf. Then running the NVIDIA configuration tool. This brought back full xorg video.
4.) the only problem I have left is that the shutdown menu choices don't seem to do anything. I'm now re-booting and shutting down by using the terminal.
X kept crashing this time. Couldn't even get past xorgwizard. Tried xvesa and xorg. No go. Xwin couldn't start the windows.
When it dropped me to terminal mode I did see some error messages --
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setenv command not found
/etc/profile.d/libglib2.csh: line 28 syntax error: unexpected end of file
/etc/profile.d/qt.csh: line 10: syntax error near unexpected token '('
/etc/profile.d/qt.csh: line 10: foreach q+d ( /usr/libqt-*)'
Edit: snipped. Problems were resolved by:
1.) removing files /etc/profile.d/libglib2.csh and qt.csh, while leaving the.sh versions of those same files intact. Bash tries to run the Cshell programs on startup. Equivalent bash programs are already in place.
2.) recognizing that when xorgwizard runs from the command line and xvesa is chosen the subsequent console prompt does NOT mean that xwin failed to start. This is a different action from the xorg choice. Xvesa must be started by explicitly typing xwin after choosing Xvesa. When I did this I was able to start x in 431 and then work on the other problems from the GUI.
3.) realizing that nv is gone in the later kernel modules. Downloading and compiling and installing proprietary kernel drivers from NVIDIA and allowing the installer to modify xorg.conf. Then running the NVIDIA configuration tool. This brought back full xorg video.
4.) the only problem I have left is that the shutdown menu choices don't seem to do anything. I'm now re-booting and shutting down by using the terminal.
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Sage, what disk transfer utility?
I was able to set one of my unset icons (the play icon) by first right-clicking on it and selecting "show location", which pointed me to defaultmediaplayer in /usr/local/bin. I right-clicked that and selected "set icon" and set it to /usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/multimedia48.png, taking a hint from one of my functional icons. This gave me the correct icon. I think it's the correct icon, anyway.
What I'm wondering is, why are all these icons left unset by the upgrade process?
I also noticed a collection of icons in /root/.thumbnails/normal, apparently taking up space in my pupsave. Are these really necessary? There is also /root/.icons/ROX/MIME, which has more icons.
It seems like the icon setting process in Puppy is overcomplicated and error-prone. I wonder what it means to "set icon" in Rox? I imagine it just puts an entry in a file somewhere, but unfortunately the process is masked from me making this hard to fix. What a mess.
<later>
OK, I got a screenshot of my pfix=ram icons so I knew what they looked like, then I used the above procedure to set all the rest of the icons manually. Not the smoothest upgrade. <grumble>
I was able to set one of my unset icons (the play icon) by first right-clicking on it and selecting "show location", which pointed me to defaultmediaplayer in /usr/local/bin. I right-clicked that and selected "set icon" and set it to /usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/multimedia48.png, taking a hint from one of my functional icons. This gave me the correct icon. I think it's the correct icon, anyway.
What I'm wondering is, why are all these icons left unset by the upgrade process?
I also noticed a collection of icons in /root/.thumbnails/normal, apparently taking up space in my pupsave. Are these really necessary? There is also /root/.icons/ROX/MIME, which has more icons.
It seems like the icon setting process in Puppy is overcomplicated and error-prone. I wonder what it means to "set icon" in Rox? I imagine it just puts an entry in a file somewhere, but unfortunately the process is masked from me making this hard to fix. What a mess.
<later>
OK, I got a screenshot of my pfix=ram icons so I knew what they looked like, then I used the above procedure to set all the rest of the icons manually. Not the smoothest upgrade. <grumble>
4.3.1 arrived, ..but
cd arrived from barry
1 hour later (or maybe a little less)
put in cd drive of "testcomputer-l"
looked in workbook to see which spare partition I can use, added info to workbook. Each of my systems have their own, else I have no idea on what's on them or where it is.
attempted startup from CD
failed to start x after setting X up
- had this problem before with this machine as it only uses the internal Intel 82945G video
started x manually
OK
everything seemed to run and link ok so used puppy ui to do a full install to parn 7 (hd0,6)
ok
mounted parn with grub,
edited existing grub menu.list with what was in "grub update message" (nice idea someone, rather than just overwriting it as in the past) I thought it was all ok.
closed down, removed cd, rebooted
selected partition from grub menu
...booting
PROBLEM 1 - with solution
Kernal Panic - not syncing
VFS:Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)
etc
GRUMBLE GRUMBLE
restarted from CD loading with ram only
everything was ok
back to check the grub menu.lst in case of a typo
compaired it to doc on cd
AH HA, v4 uses sda not hda as v2/3 was
fixed spelling
shutdown, etc
rebooted, all OK now to load
- however any v2/3 parn's want hda in grub, not sda (at least mine do)
Problem 2 (?is to me anyway) - not solved
Row of devices shown on bottom was incomplete, no DVD's or CD Tower drives visable/shown
Found they didn't appear UNTIL there was something in them!
Except the Floppy drive always shows even when empty
THIS IS INCONSISTANT
How do I fix it, please, or will it remain as a bug we have to put up with?
Problem 3 - not solved
Copied other .sfs from cd to /mnt/home as listed to use
Started Puppy Setup
Picked Bootmanager to add them to the startup
error: Sorry there are no SFS files in directory /mnt/home (or they all have the wrong *_nnn.sfs version number. You will need to download and place one there first.
Checked location, ok
copied to same place with shortened name _431.sfs
checked permissions, ok
still same error
help please.
problem 4 - not solved
how do I set the "modem speaker volume" without changing the whole volume?
doesn't worry me as i'm seriously deaf, but it's creating hell with those around me
that's all for now, enough to start with anyway.
Otherwise for a first play I like the beast.
scsijon
1 hour later (or maybe a little less)
put in cd drive of "testcomputer-l"
looked in workbook to see which spare partition I can use, added info to workbook. Each of my systems have their own, else I have no idea on what's on them or where it is.
attempted startup from CD
failed to start x after setting X up
- had this problem before with this machine as it only uses the internal Intel 82945G video
started x manually
OK
everything seemed to run and link ok so used puppy ui to do a full install to parn 7 (hd0,6)
ok
mounted parn with grub,
edited existing grub menu.list with what was in "grub update message" (nice idea someone, rather than just overwriting it as in the past) I thought it was all ok.
closed down, removed cd, rebooted
selected partition from grub menu
...booting
PROBLEM 1 - with solution
Kernal Panic - not syncing
VFS:Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)
etc
GRUMBLE GRUMBLE
restarted from CD loading with ram only
everything was ok
back to check the grub menu.lst in case of a typo
compaired it to doc on cd
AH HA, v4 uses sda not hda as v2/3 was
fixed spelling
shutdown, etc
rebooted, all OK now to load
- however any v2/3 parn's want hda in grub, not sda (at least mine do)
Problem 2 (?is to me anyway) - not solved
Row of devices shown on bottom was incomplete, no DVD's or CD Tower drives visable/shown
Found they didn't appear UNTIL there was something in them!
Except the Floppy drive always shows even when empty
THIS IS INCONSISTANT
How do I fix it, please, or will it remain as a bug we have to put up with?
Problem 3 - not solved
Copied other .sfs from cd to /mnt/home as listed to use
Started Puppy Setup
Picked Bootmanager to add them to the startup
error: Sorry there are no SFS files in directory /mnt/home (or they all have the wrong *_nnn.sfs version number. You will need to download and place one there first.
Checked location, ok
copied to same place with shortened name _431.sfs
checked permissions, ok
still same error
help please.
problem 4 - not solved
how do I set the "modem speaker volume" without changing the whole volume?
doesn't worry me as i'm seriously deaf, but it's creating hell with those around me
that's all for now, enough to start with anyway.
Otherwise for a first play I like the beast.
scsijon
Re: 4.3.1 arrived, ..but
Maybe your sfs version is not compatible...use:scsijon wrote: Problem 3 - not solved
Copied other .sfs from cd to /mnt/home as listed to use
Started Puppy Setup
Picked Bootmanager to add them to the startup
error: Sorry there are no SFS files in directory /mnt/home (or they all have the wrong *_nnn.sfs version number. You will need to download and place one there first.
Checked location, ok
copied to same place with shortened name _431.sfs
checked permissions, ok
still same error
help please.
scsijon
Menu -> Utility -> SFS convert
It will convert sfs version 4 to 3 and the other way around
They need the s4s.sfs in the name.extension, check for that. Could be a mistake in making the cd where the wrong (non s4s) sfs files were packaged. If so, just convert them as suggested earlier. On the other hand, if they do already have the additional s4s tag in the name, you're good to go.scsijon wrote:sorry trio, but it came on the disc from barry, don't think he's behind it yet!
Also in the bootmanager sfs screen, if you can't see the s4s.sfs files in the left panel, try checking or unchecking the little box on the lower left which specifies the type of names that are acceptable, (I can't remember what it says exactly in 431, as I'm not on it right now). Then close and re-start the bootmanager. Or you may actually need to reboot to see the sfs files in bootmanager -- again, I'm not on 431 at the moment , so can't tell you which procedure works.
Getting that little checkbox right will allow the s4s sfs files to appear in the left window so you can add them to the right window. Be sure the s4s sfs files ARE actually present in /mnt/home. Otherwise they won't be available to you to add to the bootmanager list at all. This little checkbox has been a feature of 4.x series bootmanagers for a long time, so this setting has often been a point of confusion.
More procedural help like this should be available in the regular assistance forums -- don't want to get too far afield from just reporting 431 bugs and suggestions here.
Re: 4.3.1 arrived, ..but
go to wizard wizard, the networking section, the modem section, set up your modem, then put the right volume commands in for your specific modem from its owner's manual.scsijon wrote:cd arrived from barry
problem 4 - not solved
how do I set the "modem speaker volume" without changing the whole volume?
scsijon
google:
site:www.murga-linux.com modem mute
or google:
site:www.murga-linux.com modem silent
etc.
better yet, scroogle them. (www.scroogle.org)