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Echinus window manager, versions -0.3.6 and -0.4.9.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 01:49    Post subject:  

It was just a gripe about more desktop icons. The HotPup drive icons would be great on a slide out panel (Xfce).

I put this .png file in the download and it came up like this???
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 02:30    Post subject:  

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The HotPup drive icons would be great on a slide out panel (Xfce).

Yes!
A slide out panel from a tray icon would be best, as it would be supported by (almost) all panels... it shouldn't be too hard to make Smile... but then we could just have a panel icon to launch a fast starting pmount-type application.

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 10:59    Post subject:  

Do you mean something like this?

I know, it's not a panel, but it seriously reduces the number of disk icons while maintaining access to them.

Then again, you could put these two icons or programs in a ROX panel or a XFCE panel, and open the menus from there, so you'd have even less clutter on your screen.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 11:02    Post subject:  

Or like this?

This menu -- and the following -- illustrate access to the linux directroy structure on your system, through a menu.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 11:02    Post subject:  

Sorry... (double post).
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 11:11    Post subject:  

Or even like this? If you like this idea, I could upload something before the end of the day. (I'm at work right now.)
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 12:51    Post subject:  

I like the panels that slide out from the sides of the screen.
Also ROX panels are dead pan ugly, Xfce`s panels are much nicer.
Xfce`s panels can be used in Puppy with JWM and ROX.

My idea is thin colored strips on the sides of the screen each about 20% of screen height.
So now the panel that will slide out is identified by color, and a label running down it.
So each side of the screen could have 5 or 6 different panels come out of it.
That could reduce the desktop clutter to nothing! Yessssss... Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 13:31    Post subject:  

Are you working on some form of program or script to achieve this?

As you may know, the default jwm desktop for Puppy 4.2.1 (Willson Warren version) has something very similar. Would you be expanding on that?

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 13:39    Post subject:  

Sorry, double post. (A glitch happened.)
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 14:02    Post subject: Another screen capture for Echinus  

FYI, I've uploaded another screen capture for echinus here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=22431

The full-screen desktop is in tile mode. Main zone has scalc. Tiled programs in right column are opera, and 2 ROX panels.
Full screen in a tiled desktop is achieved with the Ctrl-Alt-b key commands.

Enjoy.

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 14:19    Post subject:  

musher0; The ROX panels don`t slide out that I can see. And they`re ugly...
Maybe JWM has some panels that I haven`t seen yet (I don`t think so though).

Also you have to remember to use the [URL] button to show the url as a link.
Funny, because years ago it wasn`t that way, a url just showed as a link.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 15:22    Post subject: Ugly ROX panels  

Hello, again, sunburnt.

As for me, I've learned how to make the ROX pretty (Smile, through a gtkrc-mine file in /root. This allows you to define colours and even pictures to show in the ROX-panel. It's not well publicized, but the instructions are all in the ROX help file or on its web site.

Also, if you don't use a full-width taskbar, such as fbpanel, you can keep the fbpanel in front most of the time, and since you have left part of the ROX-panel uncovered, when you hover your mouse over that area, voila, the ROX-panel appears in front of fbpanel, ready for you to use. So you can hide the "ugliness" to a point.

Myself, I find the xfce panels a bit "spartan", and complicated to configure. But hey!, to each his own, of course, and I agree that xfce panels can be pretty too: if that's what you like, go for it!

I'll gladly try your stuff when you upload it!

I have to get back to work now!

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 15:30    Post subject:  

yes... You touched upon my main gripe about Xfce and many other WMs.
XML or XML "like" code, it sucks and it`s hard to figure out why it`s used.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 16:30    Post subject:  

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Maybe JWM has some panels that I haven`t seen yet (I don`t think so though).

jwm does support horizontal menus now, if that's what you're asking sunburnt

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 00:04    Post subject: Benchmarks for various wm's
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@sullysat:

In answer to the question you asked last Tuesday, here are some home-made "benchmarks", taken with htop, of six smaller window managers. echinus comes in 2nd Very Happy, after oroborus. The "hungriest" of the six was qlwm.

The details are in the attached gnumeric table (also provided in html format).

Sincerely,
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