Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

[aragon]

@technosaurus
ok now i've made some progress with the proxy-setup, but not positive (in all parts).

pizzasgood hint work. i've setup a script in /etc/profile.d/ that gets it's values from a config file in /root/.config/pproxy.

i've added my settings.

positive: it works in dillo, wget, streamtuner and opera
negative: it does not work in seamonkey, firefox 3.5.0 (it should but it does not) and gftp

i've not tested more apps. but as seamonkey and firefox actually do not work in this way, it makes no sense to go further (for an official version). i will test a little more and will post my solution as a pet.

aragon

[nubc]

The final dialog in the Puppy Universal Installer asks whether to redo the grub config or finish. The button and dialog should be "YES, finished". This is what one would expect from any installation. But to close the Puppy installation dialogs, user must click "NO, finished". It doesnt make sense, and no wonder people are confused when grub config cycles through again.

I have a slow laptop. I havent figured out the settings to make the touchpad immediately responsive, and consequently there may be lag between click and action. I try to close a browser page by clicking the "X" in the upper right corner, nothing happens, so I instinctually click again. The page finally closes, but the second click applies to the lock icon which is so unfortunately located by default in the upper right corner of desktop. Why the heck is the desktop lock icon placed under the browser page sizing/closing functions?

[ttuuxxx]

Hi Micko, that png pet package that techno post is already patched with apng, I had to patch png with apng (animated png) so that Firefox 3.0 alpha would compile.
ttuuxxx

[01micko]

Seamonkey-2.0 final is out.

I will be compiling 2 versions.

1) This will follow similar configure options to the previous beta 2 and rc1 that I compiled earlier. It will end up around 14MB including both themes but should be compatible with many puppy versions.

2). I will take a more radical approach. I will be compiling against the patched libpng with apng support as well as libnss and libnspr (system). I will be compiling those libs too and offering them as pets. libpng patched is available and linked on the previous page. (you won't need libpng patched in 4.2x)

Cheers

[raffy]

Am tagging this thread with "woofy" as Woof will be used to build the release, and "CE", making the tag "woofyCE".

This is meant to make it easier to find 4.4CE-related discussions.

[technosaurus]

Thanks micko
I noticed that 2.0 has a lot more --with-system-XXXX options
Besides png some others are too outdated as is. I compiled a recent sqlite3 that we will upgrade to (should be ~300-400kb difference) If any other things need to be upgraded to work with the mozilla build - just let me know.


Puppy Browser, gtkmozembed and Seamonkey 2.0 - are they compatible? I have not tested this yet. Requires removal of Seamonkey 1.X first to verify - just wanted to get this concern on the radar.

[01micko]

[Jim1911]

[technosaurus]

with all of the new --with-system-XXX options in seamonkey2 we should be able to save enough space to use a minimal html viewer (dillo{1,2}, netsurf, etc.... I am partial to dillo2) with Seamonkey2. For Seamonkey1 or Firefox2 puppy browser. For Opera10 it has its own "kiosk" mode - or use the same as the viewer for SeaMonkey2... open to suggestions for the best matches.

I am really tempted to compile the recently released midori 0.2.0 (and webkit-gtk) I have heard a lot of good things about it lately.


Update on Progress:

Right now I am still trying to finish rebuilding dir2pet and petspecs into a single unified gtkdialog GUI for Pcompile. Gedrean has been instrumental in bringing it to the next level so hopefully this will allow everyone to test and submit their favorite apps with minimal effort on both sides.

I had rebuilt the remasterscript ~90% a while back and it already incorporates a lot of the requests. Unfortunately I used several Xdialogs at the time so it will require a minimal effort to make a basic gtkdialog using the same templates I put in the howto area and my recent awareness of "tooltips" a.k.a. mouseover dialogs (Thanks Patriot and Zigbert)

Does anyone have the patience to compile the entirety of xorg-7.5?? - it at least warrants a test run. If we have to roll back to 7.3 for a release for functionality then so be it.

Abiword 2.8 is out now and I have been compiling each of the development builds since 2.7.4 so I have it down fairly well (It takes almost forever btw) I should be able to start that compiling while I work on the frontends. The basic idea is to compile it with as many plugins "builtin" as possible. The others will be packages separately and probably individually - since Seamonkey2 can use system hunspell I will try to set abi up to use it vs the traditional aspell/myspell as in the past.
This version builds a lot smaller and no more need for libgnomeprint and libgnomeprintui so that will gain us some space too.

Gnumeric... not sure when the final release will be but that will be next on the list - will need to use Barry's latest GTK-2.18.3 (I had previously planned to use 2.16.X series for some of the same reasons he complained about but will go with 18 for better woof compatibility... and because he did the dual compile with gdk minimal debug that fixes the insert key bug)

[01micko]

Hmmm,

There is a vala browser written by gege2061 http://code.valaide.org/content/webkit-sample ... dependant on webkit... I haven't tried it yet but it is likely to be small. And another here http://aruiz.typepad.com/siliconisland/2007/08/the-first-vala-.htm

Cheers

[mistfire]

Technosaurus i suggest to you that during developing the next puppy linux. Please include only necessary apps to prevent the bloating of puppy. Avoid some redundancy of apps. To prevent it, just use the multi-purpose apps. And try to replace rox-filer with better file manager such as Thunar. (If it is possible, because rox is good but it is difficult to use for beginners). Dont forget to implement the double click system, because it is hard to control the puppy when using the one-click system, especially on using the touchpad in laptops. Include also the SFS installer (created by trio) and Pcompile as core apps. It is very useful for puppy linux users. By the way, if you want to change the x window manager. I suggest to use the XFCE because of more user friendly appearance. Good Luck to your work

[01micko]

[raffy]

[sc0ttman]

I've read nearly all posts, and hope I'm not repeating anyone, but here's my 2 cents.. If it's worth even that...

The ISO filesize should be kept no larger than 105MB.. But it doesn't really matter too much though - it's how much has been packed into it that matters!

I don't think there needs to be drastic changes... Example:

The ChoicePup feature of adding and removing SFS files easily is a great feature, but not entirely necessary if it is easy and reliable to convert sfs to pet, which it should be in 4.4CE. Which brings me to my next point..

As some users have already stated, the right-click feature of ROX can be very useful indeed, especially for beginners (like me!!). I would like to see, quite simply, a lot of attention and effort put into making sure all the most convenient and useful options are available in right-click menus.

I'd like to see, as standard and at least, right-click features such as: sfs2pet, dir2pet, pet2sfs, pet2tgz, tgz2pet, mount/unmount XXX, open in terminal, rpm2tgz, deb2tgz, search here, copy to, plus lots of 'open with XXX' options...

I added lots of these to my install, and find them great time savers...

Needless to say then, I think ROX should definitely stay - think it's great. ROX should have double click - it's especially good for laptop users..

But I would love to see all mounted drives listed on the left in the ROX file manager, where it currently only lists 'root' or 'filesystem'... This is a pain in the neck if you use your mounted drives a lot!

Also, everyone has mentioned browsers, so I will too... I think that the Seamonkey Suite is great - if a little excessive for most peoples day to day use - but that's fine as it's so small for what you get!!

How about a customised, re-branded Seamonkey suite, with a few more addons and tweaks - Seadog!

Or you could replace Seamonkey with Firedog - this will (kind of) remove the need for the PuppyBrowser+Seamonkey combo we now have - Firedog can be used in 'kiosk' (or 'chrome') mode, too! But of course, I'm biased.

I actually like the idea of having only a small browser and letting people choose what they want, as long as it's easy, with good choices and is very fast and reliable! A simple Gui could do it..

I also like Sakura... Symlink rxvt to sakura and bang! You got an improved terminal..

I like PupSaveConfig - if cleaned up a little.. It would be a nice inclusion, especially if your doing a GUI for the Universal Installer...

If you could add a really small GIMP to the goffice apps, that would be nice..

And who actually plays the card games and minesweeper stuff? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you leave all that out, you might be able to remove a few things without upsetting anyone..

I think a communty edition should be, first and foremost, suitable for everyone in general (the community) - so it must be easy to use for beginners or it's missing the point!

I'm not saying 4.4CE is missing the point, BTW.. Just adding my blurb

[aragon]