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What shall I work on first for the next CE release?
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What shall I work on first?
GTKdialog gui for remasterpup2 (vs xdialog)
2%
 2%  [ 1 ]
GTKdialog gui for universal installer
22%
 22%  [ 11 ]
Compiling new packages
12%
 12%  [ 6 ]
Updating older packages (newer, smaller +nls support)
14%
 14%  [ 7 ]
Add xz support to petget (like new slax and arch packages)
12%
 12%  [ 6 ]
Automatic kb, mouse, timezone & video + GUI config tool (vs. ncurses)
18%
 18%  [ 9 ]
Something else - Just ask
20%
 20%  [ 10 ]
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Oct 2009, 03:48    Post subject:  

This makes some points about speeding Linux booting
Most have been implemented?
http://l.pr/a44wk/

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct 2009, 04:23    Post subject:  

hi technosaurus,

one thing that would be great to have is a central proxy-setup-gui (maybe as part of the network-wizard).

working with puppy behind a proxy is a little tedious. for every network-task you do, you have to manually setup the proxy.

- if you surf the web, setup the browser for your proxy
- if you install a package, setup wget for your proxy (if you know that wget is the downloader for te installer)
- if you want to look at a manpage, setup another browser...
- if you want to hear online-music....
- ...

most of the apps do read variables like http_proxy, ftp_proxy, ... so this should be possible (at least for a large number of apps)

I think this would increase the 'skills' of puppy as a portable os.

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct 2009, 10:36    Post subject:  

Since the problems concerning ext4 partitions have been solved.

Considering adding code to the shutdown dialogue that would detect the type partition (ext2, ext3, ext4) that the frugal installation is on and create a corresponding pupsave.2fs, 3fs, or 4fs. Alternatively, let the user make a choice of pupsave files on the first shutdown.

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Oct 2009, 11:56    Post subject:  

@aragon - I don't have much experience with Proxy setup. Any recommendations out there? Can it be done with just a bash script with corresponding gtkdialog gui?


@Jim - I have been operating in pfix=ram mode for a while and recall that we used to have that option with ext2 and ext3 the last time I used a save file, so it should be a basic cut and paste job once I track down the script(s). I'll have a look tonight.

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Oct 2009, 14:52    Post subject:  

@technosaurus
yes in my opinion it should be 'simple'. in short we need a gui to setup some global variables, an rc-file for the variables e.g. /root/.proxyrc) and a 'point' in startup (/etc/profile ?), where we read them to set them global.

a second question would be if this is possible without restart.

a last question is more about security. some proxies need username/password. we can also set variables for them but could we save and use them in a secure way?

i will test and have some google searches to look which variables are needed.

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Oct 2009, 15:01    Post subject:  

Have it create a file like /etc/profile.d/proxy.sh, which would be a script that exports the variables. That way you don't need to touch /etc/profile at all. /etc/profile is already configured to automatically source anything in /etc/profile.d/ that has a .sh extension and is also executable.

In the standard Puppy (at least up to 4.2.1 as I haven't looked at 4.3 in detail yet) it will take effect immediately for anything run from a fresh terminal window, because Puppy has /root/.bashrc source /etc/profile every time it starts. You should be able to completely refresh the environment by exiting X and logging out. Puppy is by default configured to immediately log you back in, at which point /etc/profile will have been automatically resourced. Then you can start X and use the proxy settings.

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Oct 2009, 15:27    Post subject:  

@pg
thanks for the info. will try to test that tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Tue 13 Oct 2009, 15:29    Post subject:  

technosaurus wrote:
@Jim - I have been operating in pfix=ram mode for a while and recall that we used to have that option with ext2 and ext3 the last time I used a save file, so it should be a basic cut and paste job once I track down the script(s). I'll have a look tonight.


Piratesmack and gyro have been working on this, their efforts resulted in the latest fixes for frugal installations to be work properly on ext4 partitions. See http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=46902&start=15

Thanks for addressing this issue,
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct 2009, 00:59    Post subject:  

Hi technosaurus

The other day when I compiled Seamonkey-2.0rc1 I had a configure error.. system libpng would not be accepted because there is no apng support.

So, can we update libpng?

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct 2009, 01:39    Post subject:  

of course - I think ttuuxxx did that for 4.2
see ibiblio

I also figured out that we can simply move the nss and nspr libraries to /usr/lib (as a separate package) will save 2.5 Mb if you want FF vs. seamonkey also you can delete the ff/sm libsqlite3.so and make a symlink in /usr/lib/libsqlite3.so to the system sqlite (as long as we don't upgrade sqlite) ~300-500kb ... That's all I have so far, others may work this way too if compiled the same.

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct 2009, 02:01    Post subject:  

Thanks techno,

I know it is early days, but what other relevant libs do you intend to update for 4.4? That way I can make 2 versions with my next effort, one for 4.4 and one for legacy Puppies.

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct 2009, 02:36    Post subject:  

sorry micko - that didn't have apng either... where to get it???

ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-4/libpng-1.2.34-dev.pet
ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-4/libpng-1.2.34.pet

I guess I should upgrade sqlite as well, since it is an allowed option in 2.X - system sqlite had started breaking 1.X

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct 2009, 02:51    Post subject:  

Hmmm... looks like libpng needs a patch for apng support... this link is fairly recent and from sourceforge http://libpng-apng.sourceforge.net/

I'll look into it over the next few days, will look to see if those linked pets are patched too.

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct 2009, 05:15    Post subject:  

@micko
the libpng-1.2.34.pet from puppy-4-rep should be the apng-patched version from ttuuxxx compiled for 4.2.

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct 2009, 09:44    Post subject:  

See my prior post for the apng ttuuxxx patched version - micko you are too fast. I verified it this morning.

I suppose that apng is the replacement for mng since I no longer see a --with-system-mng???

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