Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

[technosaurus]

looks like someone beat me to the punch on /dev/null... I was busy compiling and packaging wine 1.1.30 - couldn't get libgsm to compile as shared - finally found a patch for it but not till after I got wine compiled, so I went ahead and posted the .pxt to http://www.puppylinux.asia/members/T/444/wine_lite-1.1.30-i486.pxt
(note that it is less than 7MB)

here are a couple of things to note for install/remaster:
less than 256MB should probably do a full install... actually it should compare the size of the files to the RAM - this code actually already exists in Barry's init to check whether to load in ram ... I pointed this out to ecomoney and others a while back to make a Recycle me script. The swap drive should generally be 2x the ram. Puppy files should continue to go to a standard directory by default (pupXXX) to speed up boot and we should consider setting up a standard directory to install sfs files to be used by all puppies maybe just (sfs)

@ ttuuxxx - Midori has similar dependency issues - I still haven't had the patience to sit down and compile it all - it worked ok in absolute linux though.

[Michalis]

I have an idea about the puppy package manager but I'm not able to do it myself.

In order to keep the size of the installed packages small we could make the package manager whenever detects a pet with locales (NLS) to read which are the locales inside, and pop up a window asking which ones the user wants. The dialog can have the locales and a tick box next to each of them where the user tics the ones he/she wants to install. For example in my case I only want en (english) and el (greek), so every time I go later to the folder where the locales are installed and manually delete all the rest. In some cases this can be a reduction in size of Mbytes, for example in opera 10 all the locales are 8133 K and in transmission 1.75 1180 K.

The way it can be implemented is:
if pet has in the name NLS
extract, read the the folders names inside the /locale folder (/usr/share/locale or /usr/share/name_of_the_program/locale)
post the list in a dialog
install only the ones which are chosen.

[raffy]

@SHS: Good new layout, although please don't forget that the two-click option consists of "Choose the Drive" then press "Go".

Sorry, I have no idea how to handle gtkdialog. What I can recall is that the CD remaster fails at that stage when gtkdialog (?) could not show a CD in my eeePC.

Am still at a loss how remaster fits the installer - is this a pre-install option for the advanced install? Or an installer part 2 (customized setup)?

[technosaurus]

@Michalis - At least in 4.3 there is a "trim the fat" button that does this when you install, but maybe I am mis remembering (stuck on a win32 box right now)

[Michalis]

I don't see it anywhere , can you or somebody else help me locate it?


Off Topic:
Whenever I build a pet in the database dialog the automatically calculated size is always bigger than the real size of the pet extracted. Has anyone else noticed it? Maybe is it a minor bug?

[technosaurus]

If "Trim the Fat" is not there it can fairly easily be added using parts of the new2dir script - maybe even modify it to delete DEV, DOC and NLS.

I've never paid attention to the size, only the md5 on the end of the tar.gz that makes it a pet. (or tar.xz that makes it a .pxt)

[Sit Heel Speak]

[BarryK]

[Max Headroom]

Also will it be X Org 7.4 ? & Perhaps Consider Pizzasgood & dejan555 X User TriX ( err Tricks

[musher0]

Hi, all!

I think PuppyLinux would benefit from adding secondary menus for easy and speedy access to

1) the disks on your computer

2) the Linux directory structure

As to # 1 above, we already have BK's event management system (the disk icons usually at the bottom left of the screen). However a true menu access to the disks with functions not already provided, such as

* a tree view (with ytree, for example) or
* last used date (for a directory or file),

might be useful to get to a specific directory or to get info on a particular file in a jiffy. Another commond use of this would be to avoid overwriting the backup of your pupsave file.

The possibility for # 1 is already partially present in LXDE or XFCE as plug-ins, but some prefer using some other task bar or wm -- jwm, not to name it! .

As for # 2, quick access to any user directory would be useful if you wish to quickly access the docs for a particular utility, the icons, your backgrounds, etc., etc., -- the list can be as diverse as the user's needs.

It probably could be done in a just few lines of dressed-up bash code linked to jwm or to ROX.

The aemenu utility can be used for this, and it does it well if you know how to populate it, but it's external and independent (meaning: it's not native to Puppy, you have to search, download and compile it), and you have to populate it (meaning: some work and knowledge are involved on the part of the user).

You'll find access to those listings by default in some bigger distros. MU's NYPup also has it if you use its simili-gnome panel -- and maybe some of the other puplets have this access too, depending on the panel they use. But it would be nice to have these accesses built-in in a regular Puppy.

Just a thought, of course.

Sincerely,

[charlie6]

Hi,
thanks for your suggestions!
I'd like get fixed some existing "bugs" (don't know if "bug" is correct) like:
- SQLiteManager freezing when selecting tols/options (works on ttuuxxx 4.31.1 - thanks ttuuxxx!)
- insert key killing Seamonkey
- fixing things that has been fixed in 4.31.1 (see ttuuxx 4.31 release comments)
- could not get OpenGl working on 4.30-k2.6.30.5 using xorg-xorg-full_dri-7.3.pet whereas it does on 4.30-k2.6.25.16; is xorg---full_dri.pet kernel sensible? Does this mean that existing pets should need being recompiled for the new kernel?
Thanks for your time and skills in advance!
cheers, charlie

[adi]

I didn't succeed to connect my usb 3G modem huawei e169 with puppy but it automaticaly detected by ubuntu 9.04. unfortunately ubuntu needs a lot of resources... Can this module be included in puppy network setup wizard?

[capoverde]

Lots of wise suggestions. OK for a full-featured browser, Netbook compatibility etc.; curiously, however, nobody (but Charlie6) seems to care about the silly but annoying little bugs like, say, the <Insert> key bug (it's in Puppybrowser too), the unprintable fonts in AbiWord or the "0,0GB" size declared when hovering with the mouse pointer over a disk icon.

IMHO, in a CE edition these things should disappear -- not only it's no time to get crazy as Pizzasgood says, it's time to get even small things right.
In 4.2, Whodo had even taken the time to correct the inconsequent "take affect" error; but it's back now.

And for me, well, a MIDI player should be ready and working out of the box...

My deepest appreciation for your involvement, Technosaurus &Team.

[aarf]

[James C]

I rarely use the insert key either.

However, I hate bugs.