What shall I work on first for the next CE release?

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What shall I work on first?

GTKdialog gui for remasterpup2 (vs xdialog)
1
2%
GTKdialog gui for universal installer
11
22%
Compiling new packages
6
12%
Updating older packages (newer, smaller +nls support)
7
14%
Add xz support to petget (like new slax and arch packages)
6
12%
Automatic kb, mouse, timezone & video + GUI config tool (vs. ncurses)
9
18%
Something else - Just ask
10
20%
 
Total votes: 50

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defaulthtmlviewer/defaulthtmlbrowser

#136 Post by mcewanw »

otropogo wrote: Agreed. Unfortunately, since making the mistake of installing Firedog 1.2, it has become the default browser on 4.3.1 for me, and I can't find a way to replace it with Seamonkey, which was the default when I upgraded to 4.3.1.

So now, if I want the functionality of Seamonkey (to change the text size, zoom, etc.) in viewing a saved html file, I've got to go the tedious "open with" route.
If you know the command to start Seamonkey, you should be able to make that the defaulthtmlbrowser by editing the shell script /usr/local/bin/defaulthtmlbrowser
By default (in Puppy 4.3 at any rate) it contains the lines:

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#!/bin/sh
exec mozstart "$@"
whereas, /usr/local/bin/defaulthtmlviewer contains the lines:

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#!/bin/sh
exec gtkmoz "$@"
On a related note, one way of making the defaulthtmlviewer start up the defaulthtmlbrowser is to change gtkmoz to mozstart in the defaulthtmlviewer shell script, but a better way is probably to use a symbolic link from defaulthtmlviewer to defaulthtmlbrowser as described here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 620#337878
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Re: defaulthtmlviewer/defaulthtmlbrowser

#137 Post by otropogo »

mcewanw wrote: ...use a symbolic link from defaulthtmlviewer to defaulthtmlbrowser as described here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 620#337878
Thank you sir. You are a gentleman and a scholar.


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Update: seems I was hasty in declaring the problem solved, although my first attempts to view a saved html file with SM by simply clicking on it were successful. Maybe it only worked because SM was already running?



In any case, when I tried the same thing just now, with no browser open, clicking on html files no longer achieved anything. No browsers responded, not even Dillo.

I ended up solving the problem by dragging and dropping the Seamonkey icon into the "set the run action" window for the html file.

Unfortunately, I was also hasty in fixing the problem, and didn't examine and carefully note what was in the window before changing it. So I can only vaguely recall that it seemed to be a URL...I definitely recall the word "sourceforge", where I'd recently looked at some programs.

Maybe this will make sense to someone...

In any case, barring unforeseen side-effects, this last method of selecting the default hmtl viewer seems to be the easiest, as it's a snap to switch between browsers (I know because I grabbed the Opera icon by mistake on the first try).

It makes me wonder what the point is of having a "defaultbrowser" script at all, since it seems to do nothing but determine the default html viewer in a needlessly complicated way?
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RE: What shall I work on first for the next CE release?

#138 Post by Fox7777 »

Firefox, Open Office and a light KDE would be desirable. Previously there was a Puppy version like this that was about 200 MB in size and still seemed to run fast on most computers (except perhaps the most ancient).

When Puppy suddenly gets disconnected by a power outage, etc. you get the black screen of death with no clue how to get your desktop back. We need to figure out how to save settings and recover or at least have verbage on the black screen that people need to enter xwin to get their desktop back.

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#140 Post by technosaurus »

Fox - Puppy is targeted toward using the most efficient solution for the most tasks. Kde does little more "useful" stuff than ROX + jwm at more than 50x the size. Same goes for open office vs. abiword + gnumeric and firefox + thunderbird +... vs. seamonkey or opera. Fortunately if you just can't live without any of those it is easy to remaster your own puplet.
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#141 Post by technosaurus »

fbreader - english only development version for testing
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Re: MU

#142 Post by jemimah »

technosaurus wrote:New Idea While helping with the Control Panel project, I had a novel idea. Why not use the .desktop files to automatically create a gtkdialog panel with all of the categories in separate notebook tabs containing icons for each program and descriptions in mouseover "tooltips".
I have modified an early version of lxlauncher that does this. This version has no dependencies. It can be further modified to not open full screen. The problem is the majority of the icons in puppy are small and ugly. Let me know and I'll send source code your way.
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bring back ditched disappearing toolbar from Puppy 4.2.1

#143 Post by otropogo »

Was there any compelling reason to remove this hidden, but easily opened application toolbar?

I find that I miss it in Puppy 4.3.1, It saved me quite a few clicks, especially for apps like pfind, for which I have no desktop icon.
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#144 Post by Pizzasgood »

The reason for the default* files is for global changes.

For example, say you use an email client that lets you choose what browser to launch when you click on a link. And maybe you use a chat program with the same feature. And of course there is the file manager, where you can click on html files. Rather than going into each of these programs and changing the setting to whichever browser you want to use, you leave them all pointed at /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser. Then you just change what that file runs whenever you want to use something different.

If you still have the original desktop icons, you might notice that many of them point to the default* files. If you hold the shift key when clicking them, their target default* file will be opened in the text editor. Good quick way to change them without having to navigate or type out paths.


I'm surprised Puppy still doesn't come with a GUI utility to change those. Not a very difficult thing to make...



The "sourceforge" you saw was probably a path under /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/OpenWith/.
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#145 Post by aragon »

Pizzasgood wrote:If you still have the original desktop icons, you might notice that many of them point to the default* files.
none :shock:
If you hold the shift key when clicking them, their target default* file will be opened in the text editor. Good quick way to change them without having to navigate or type out paths.
:D great one, hope i remember that one if i need it...
I'm surprised Puppy still doesn't come with a GUI utility to change those. Not a very difficult thing to make...
if i remember right, someone posted recently about creating that one...

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#146 Post by otropogo »

Pizzasgood wrote:The reason for the default* files is for global changes.

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If you still have the original desktop icons, you might notice that many of them point to the default* files. If you hold the shift key when clicking them, their target default* file will be opened in the text editor. Good quick way to change them without having to navigate or type out paths.
Thanks for the explanation. If only I had known that before I set out to replace Firedog with Seamonkey...I seem to have lost both the default browser icon and the ability to set a default browser in the process.



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'm surprised Puppy still doesn't come with a GUI utility to change those. Not a very difficult thing to make...
I'd certainly find that helpful.

The "sourceforge" you saw was probably a path under /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/OpenWith/.
Makes sense. Thanks.
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Tweaking Puppy Package Manager

#147 Post by mistfire »

Technosaurus Can you tweak the Puppy package Manager? I noticed that
Puppy Package Manager doesn't support upgrading and roll-backing the previously installed apps. Instead it creates another entry in Puppy Package manager. Can you fix that Problem?

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#148 Post by technosaurus »

Mistfire. Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you are asking.

Expected behavior:
When you click on a pet package it is installed and leaves an entry in petget that you may then click on to uninstall it.

Are you talking about upgrading a package to say 2.X and then trying to revert back to 1.X

if so just uninstall 2.X and reinstall 1.X
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#149 Post by technosaurus »

Rather than installing browser plugins by default (because they tend to speed one thing up at the expense of slowing other things down) I was thinking of adding a section to the web desktop to easily direct install the most useful plugins. Please post your links to your favorite addons that you would like to have included. The web desktop is due for an update anyways.
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#150 Post by Lobster »

Puppy Raspup 8.2Final 8)
Puppy Links Page http://www.smokey01.com/bruceb/puppy.html :D

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#151 Post by vtpup »

otropogo wrote:
Thanks for the explanation. If only I had known that before I set out to replace Firedog with Seamonkey...I seem to have lost both the default browser icon and the ability to set a default browser in the process.
Check usr/local/bin.

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Browsers Wars & addons

#152 Post by mikeslr »

Regarding the Holy War that discussion of which web browser to use, please note my classification as a conscientious objector. Personally, I use two, for different reasons. There are a half-dozen or so websites I frequent on an almost daily basis: This Forum, its Link in Beginner's Section for Searches, Barry K's Blog, Zap2It (TV Listings), AccuWeather and a couple of others. Opera's Speed dial gets me to them with a minimum of effort. Opera also has a nice little widget for searching torrents limited to those you don't have to join to use and a built-in bittorrent. When, however, I want to search the web for something, I use Firefox in which I have the following extensions/addons running: For Security and Speed: NoScript, and AdBlock; To quickly locate on the resulting pages the keywords I used in searches: ColorResults and SearchBox Companion.
Seamonkey used to provide the ability to create multiple profiles via its menus: Nice when going on vacation you have to share a Laptop with an organizationally disfunctional spouse. I've only recently learned that profiles can still be created in Seamonkey (and in Firefox) albeit via commandline. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager#Linux.
Recently, I've been playing around with PCLinuxos Lxde which uses Midori as its default browser. It was light, fast, had a Speed Dial, appeared to be fully functional and to the uninitiated looks and feels like Firefox. It uses the webkit engine. So, if a "lightweight" browser is decided upon, it would not be a bad choice.
Despite, however, that I never use Seamonkey's Mail or Composer, and if it is chosen as the Main web browser I will almost immediately install Firefox and Opera, I would recommend it. It provides the most "bang for the buck" or, in other words, most functionality for the least space consumed. That said, perhaps ttuuxxx can be cajoled into composing a theme for it that would give it a less stodgy appearance, and someone could figure out how to return multi-profile creation to its menus.

Regarding addon links for web desktop, the following is my list:
Firefox --
Adblock Plus
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865

NoScript
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722

ColorResults
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7996

SearchBox Companion
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/377

Opera --
Google query builder
http://widgets.opera.com/widget/4899/

Torrent PowerSearch
http://widgets.opera.com/widget/6012/

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#153 Post by Flash »

Pcdripper needs work. It doesn't save the settings I use, even from one CD to the next, never mind closing and reopening the program or rebooting. I've tried fiddling around with the settings in /.config/pcdripper, to no effect, and I don't understand anything in /usr/sbin/pcdripper.

If you have any questions, I can be more thorough.
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Sfs optionally in Puppy Directory & Newbie Friendly Startup

#154 Post by mikeslr »

Hi Tech, (which seems triply appropriate)

Thirty-Five years as an Appellate Attorney and Trial Strategist (the functional equivalent of a Systems Analyst) taught me that even the most brilliant people can overlook something. So 'though it's probable that you already know that YoN & Puppy Linux Japanese Team have developed a way to use Sfs' optionally placed in the Puppy Folder rather than only at the "root" of the partition containing the Puppy Folder. According to cthisbear, their Puplet also employs a "brilliant," "much easier for newbies" Startup of which developers should take note.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=49567

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auto-installer for USB

#155 Post by raffy »

Here is a script for auto-install of Puppy to USB:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=49881
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