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ecomoney


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PostPosted: Thu 24 Sep 2009, 04:20    Post_subject:  [Testing] Seamonkey Beta2
Sub_title: Makes facebook work :D
 

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http://www.ecomoney.eu/puppy/pets/internet/Seamonkey-Beta2.pet

This is a handy (14.3 MB) SeaMonkey 2-beta package that I needed to compile for someone who couldn't get their facebook notifications/chat/status updates working with the standard 1.x SeaMonkeys. It is compiled from the standard package, plus has the libdbus libraries needed (I think these are only required for puppy 4.3?)..

When it is installed, a rox-filer window opens which allows you to make a desktop shortcut.

Enjoy Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu 24 Sep 2009, 10:10    Post_subject:  

I've got to try this. SeaMonkey in Puppy 4.3 final still closes sometimes, apparently when Flash gets overloaded. Anyway, does this .pet replace the existing SeaMonkey files in 4.3, or is it a completely separate addition to Puppy?
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PostPosted: Thu 24 Sep 2009, 12:33    Post_subject:  

Its a completely separate installation of the program, although it picks up your existing bookmarks and settings from /root/.mozilla (I believe). Seamonkey Beta2 installs into /usr/local rather than /usr/lib like the built in Seamonkey 1.8. The package creates a desktop icon (and a menu entry) to launch seamonkey 2 beta.

The Flashplayer does to me seem a lot smoother in puppy 4.3, I have no idea why. This package does not include a new flashplayer, it uses the version already installed. I cant say Ive tested it for long enough to know about crashes, but any feedback would be welcome.

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01micko


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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 01:50    Post_subject:  

Hello ecomoney. Smile

Is this the standard Seamonkey beta2 offered by the Seamonkey website? If it is, then I have it and it is very fast and seems very stable. IMHO it is every bit as good if not better than Firefox 3.5.x.

A side note. Seamonkey should be able to be compiled without the need for the dbus dependencies. I may put it on my 'to do' list. Compiling anything from mozilla source can be a daunting task!

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 02:24    Post_subject:  

Code:
compiled from the standard package

Compiled? Or put together from the standard package?

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 03:42    Post_subject:  

Bonjour à tous,
From SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker and also
SeaMonkey 2 Beta 1 will use the same rendering engine as Firefox 3.5.1, Gecko 1.9.1.1, including the recent security fixes and overall improvements, and the same MailNews backend as Thunderbird Beta 3 which will be released in parallel.
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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 08:10    Post_subject:  

Compiling anything is a daunting task for me! I simply downloaded the "static"(?) package of SM 2.0 beta 2 from their website (the same as yours Micko) and made a pet with dir2pet after putting in the dependencies and adding a little script in pinstall to allow the user to create a desktop shortcut. Thanks for the background on the gecko engine...etc.

Humans are my thing Smile

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 08:22    Post_subject:  

Fair enough Rob.

Just, (perhaps Wink ) you should distinguish between 'compile' and 'package' ( which is what you have done Cool ). Just for some of us who aren't newbies. Smile .

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 13:56    Post_subject:  

Yes if it was compiled it would be around 10MB the full suite and wouldn't be using dbus.
also Micko Seamonkey is no joy to compile, it takes at least 3hrs, you need alot of space around 1GB, Usually you need to patch it first and then most the time the actual gui doesn't compile into the package and you have to manually find the parts and move them into order. But if you feel like giving it a shot goodluck. Smile On a compiling difficulty scale I would give it a 8 out of 10, as a kernel would be 10/10 and a simple /configure/make program a 1/10.
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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 15:02    Post_subject:  

01micko wrote:
very fast and seems very stable. IMHO it is every bit as good if not better than Firefox 3.5.x.


Damn ugly though. Gimme a Ttuuxxx Firefox any day Smile

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 21:44    Post_subject:  

DaveS wrote:
Damn ugly though. Gimme a Ttuuxxx Firefox any day Smile


Hehe, maybe so, but the new Seamonkey-2 does have a nicer theme and I quite like the modern theme. As a matter of fact, on my old lappy which I gave to my daughter, I used a Seamonkey look theme on Firefox. Laughing
ttuuxxx wrote:
Yes if it was compiled it would be around 10MB the full suite and wouldn't be using dbus.
also Micko Seamonkey is no joy to compile, it takes at least 3hrs, you need alot of space around 1GB, Usually you need to patch it first and then most the time the actual gui doesn't compile into the package and you have to manually find the parts and move them into order. But if you feel like giving it a shot goodluck. Smile On a compiling difficulty scale I would give it a 8 out of 10, as a kernel would be 10/10 and a simple /configure/make program a 1/10.

I did manage to compile Firefox-3.5.2 during 4.3 beta testing and it worked fine. I'll download the source tomorrow and have a shot at Seamonkey 2. Have you compiled it yet ttuuxxx? I bet there's a whole bunch of new configure options compared to Seamonkey 1.x.

Ecomoney, If my compile is successful, do you want to host it? Should end up a bit smaller Wink .

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PostPosted: Sat 26 Sep 2009, 10:18    Post_subject:  

Razz I did it! Laughing Laughing

Successful compile of Seamonkey-2 beta 2. Cool

Yeah took over 3 hours but that included mistakes (er.... seven of them!). Just have to figure out how to package it!

Here's the configure options that worked for me in 4.3
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./configure --build=i486 --with-x --with-system-jpeg=/usr/lib --with-system-png=/usr/lib --enable-application=suite --disable-gnomevfs --disable-gnomeui --disable-dbus --disable-accessibility --disable-installer --disable-updater --disable-parental-controls --disable-vista-sdk-requirements --enable-strip --enable-install-strip --with-libIDL-prefix=/usr/include/libIDL-2.0 --disable-glibtest --with-glib-prefix=/usr/include/glib-2.0 --enable-system-cairo


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PostPosted: Sat 26 Sep 2009, 10:47    Post_subject:  

Woo-hoo! The horrible Flash performance is (finally) fixed in SM 2.0b2 !

Results from my YouTube video benchmark:
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* SeaMonkey 2.0 beta 1 = 64% ~ 80% CPU usage
* Opera 10.10 = 48% ~ 51% CPU
* SeaMonkey 1.1.18 = 37% ~ 42% CPU
* SeaMonkey 2.0 beta 2 = 37% ~ 42% CPU Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat 26 Sep 2009, 11:17    Post_subject:  

Hey micko good to here Smile I haven't tried compiling Seamonkey 2 yet, Usually we configure it with a bit more Here's how Barry has compiled it in the past, Smile
--localstatedir=/var --prefix=/usr --host=i486-t2-linux-gnu --with-x --with-pthreads --with-system-jpeg --with-system-zlib --with-system-png --enable-default-toolkit=gtk2 --enable-xft --enable-postscript --disable-xprint --disable-gnomevfs --disable-gnomeui --enable-crypto --enable-plugins --disable-logging --enable-strip --enable-necko-protocols=all --disable-debug --enable-mathml --enable-composer --disable-freetype2 --enable-cookies --enable-extensions=cookie,transformiix,wallet,xmlextras,pref,spellcheck,universalchardet,permissions,sroaming,editor/cascades,typeaheadfind --enable-mailnews --disable-calendar --enable-application=suite --disable-ldap --enable-pango --enable-chrome-format=jar --with-distribution-id=com.puppylinux --enable-xinerama --enable-svg --enable-svg-renderer=cairo --enable-system-cairo --disable-calendar --enable-accessibility

anyways did you make a package for testing ?
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PostPosted: Sat 26 Sep 2009, 11:24    Post_subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
Hey micko good to here Smile I haven't tried compiling Seamonkey 2 yet, Usually we configure it with a bit more Here's how Barry has compiled it in the past, Smile
--localstatedir=/var --prefix=/usr --host=i486-t2-linux-gnu --with-x --with-pthreads --with-system-jpeg --with-system-zlib --with-system-png --enable-default-toolkit=gtk2 --enable-xft --enable-postscript --disable-xprint --disable-gnomevfs --disable-gnomeui --enable-crypto --enable-plugins --disable-logging --enable-strip --enable-necko-protocols=all --disable-debug --enable-mathml --enable-composer --disable-freetype2 --enable-cookies --enable-extensions=cookie,transformiix,wallet,xmlextras,pref,spellcheck,universalchardet,permissions,sroaming,editor/cascades,typeaheadfind --enable-mailnews --disable-calendar --enable-application=suite --disable-ldap --enable-pango --enable-chrome-format=jar --with-distribution-id=com.puppylinux --enable-xinerama --enable-svg --enable-svg-renderer=cairo --enable-system-cairo --disable-calendar --enable-accessibility

anyways did you make a package for testing ?
ttuuxxx


Without having a clue I got plenty of those right! Smile I'll package it tomorrow... atm I'm Wallaby Ted's brother... Roo Ted!

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(BTW using it now Wink )

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