Puppy 4.4 CE - Phase 1: pet tests

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#31 Post by technosaurus »

for an easy/fun thing to test - the games on the Puppy Web Desktop need to be categorized

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#32 Post by esmourguit »

Bonjour à tous,
Bert wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
esmourguit wrote:What about localizing scripts like xorgwizard, chooselocale etc.?
That could be a good job for you :)
If you started with French, maybe others could follow your lead after and use your examples.
ttuuxxx

What's needed, yes I said it before, is a standardized, unified, teamwork-enabling localization system.

Thank you Bert for your support.
I hope that other translators will want to join to form a cohesive team to work with coders (whether this cooperation is of course desired).
Cordialement ;)
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#33 Post by Lobster »

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Our growing list of support (please add yourself) http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy44Team

Can one of our team add the phase 1 objectives here:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy44

thank you :)
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#34 Post by ttuuxxx »

Lobster wrote:Image
Our growing list of support (please add yourself) http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy44Team

Can one of our team add the phase 1 objectives here:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy44

thank you :)
Hi lobster, umm your displaying peoples emails, ummmmm not a good idea with spam, most spam bots look for things like that. the best way is just make a jpg image in mtpaint/gimp and do all the text on the image and save it as jpg, that way bots can't read what images say.
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http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#35 Post by Lobster »

Thanks Ttuuxxx :)
Just added this - if someone wants to add graphic protection :)
for their email please do
mine can stay in a convenient format
Using HTML Entities

One trick is to replace the "@" symbol with the html character entity for it. Here are two email addresses: can you tell the difference?

* jqpublic@example.com
* jqpublic@example.com

Most people cannot, without looking at the source code. Here's what they really look like:


jqpublic@example.com
jqpublic@example.com

The "@" is another way of writing the "at" character - the "at" in an email address. This may fool some spambots, however, it is very easy for a spambot to "learn" this trick, so use it sparingly.
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#36 Post by mcalex »

where at least one of the '@'s is probably & # 6 4 ; (without the spaces)
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#37 Post by davesurrey »

Hi technosaurus,
You seem to have got off to a really good start here. Thanks and congratulations.

Perhaps I have misunderstood but you say
additionally load sfs files from same dir as the pupXXX
My personal opinion, which may be shared by others, is that this isn't necessarily the best approach.

If one has several frugal installs in the same partition but under separate psubdirectories then at the moment I can just add, say, one openoffice.sfs to /mnt/home and all my frugals can pick it up. If I don't want any puppy to pick it up then Bootmanager gives me flexibility to change this.

But if the sfs file needs to be in the psubdirectory (where the pupXXX file resides) then would I not need one openoffice.sfs for each puppy?

Or does your wording
additionally
mean it would be an extra feature and it would still work if the sfs file where in /mnt/home??

If I have misunderstood could you kindly put me right.

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#38 Post by panzerpuppy »

Memtest86+ 4.00 is out.
Now it's a good time to include the latest release in Puppy 4.3.1 / 4.4 CE :)

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#39 Post by technosaurus »

how's this:
boot manager (or user) sets SFSHOME as the default search location
boot parameter
LOADSFS=none #skips the sfs search all together
or
LOADSFS=all #(loads all sfs in $SFSHOME)
or
LOADSFS=zdrv,browser,openoffice,puppypack,devx,docx,nls #only loads list from $SFSHOME unless full path is provided

#set up some defaults
if $SFSHOME = ""
SFSHOME=$PHOME

The init script just spends way too much time looking around for this stuff. If users just keep pressing enter for defaults, those locations should be checked first and once found it should stop searching. You've heard the joke about finding something in the last place you looked... right now Puppy still keeps sniffing around to find another set of keys.

I don't have the luxury of being able to play around with init till early next week because of all the dependencies I have compiled while in pfix=ram mode - just bouncing some ideas around.
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OT: Unicode & JavaScript email addresses

#40 Post by puppyite »

To view these two examples of John's email address copy and paste the following code into an HTML document (remove space before semicolon in unicode).

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John's email address in JavaScript:
<script language="JavaScript">
<!-- Begin
document.write('<a href=\"mailto:john'+ '@' + 'yahoo.com\">');
document.write('john'+ '@' +'yahoo.com</a>');
// End -->
</script>

John's email address in unicode:
&#106 ;&#111 ;&#104 ;&#110 ;&#64 ;&#121 ;&#97 ;&#104 ;&#111 ;&#111 ;.&#99 ;&#111 ;&#109 ;
Visit: http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/basic_latin.html for more unicode characters. Use the decimal codes on this page to display the character of your choice in an HTML document by doing the following: Place an ampersand, then a pound sign ahead of the decimal number and then follow with a semicolon to make your choice of character appear in an HTML document. Do not put spaces between the unicode characters.

NOTE: Placing JavaScript in the body of a XHTML document is not standards compliant.

PS: I said it was OT.
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#41 Post by davesurrey »

Hi technosaurus,
how's this:
boot manager (or user) sets SFSHOME as the default search location....
Assuming this is a reply to mine above then yes, if I understand it correctly, that seems to offer flexibilty as well as satisfying the prime requirements of speeding up the boot.

I appreciate your lateral thinking on this. Should make a CE of note.

Dave

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#42 Post by technosaurus »

Who was it that requested updated openssl? Puppy 4.3 has the latest stable Major.Minor version - did you need it configured differently or were you refering to the 0.9.8k/1.0-beta4/snapshot?

Why I ask...The 1.0 snapshot compiles a bit larger - what is the benefit?
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#43 Post by technosaurus »

I just uploaded openssl, fbreader, viewnior, libtheora, vim, tar... synced the folders with some newer builds of the others

still here:
http://puppylinux.asia/members/T/444/

has anyone tested gnumeric? it needs gtk, atk, pango, cairo, goffice
There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of interest in it. Is it worth its weight to be a default app?
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#44 Post by 01micko »

technosaurus,

Keep gnumeric :) It was the first puppy app I ever used. We certainly need a spreadsheet.

Are you offering an alternative?

I'll download your latest and give it a run.

(a little later...)

Hmmmm,

It is rather large. And it didn't work..

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# gnumeric-1.9.13
gnumeric-1.9.13: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libspreadsheet-1.9.13.so: undefined symbol: gtk_orientable_get_type
The old one in 4.3 works ok.

On a sidenote: Last year when I was doing my taxes my accountant couldn't open an Excell file created in Excell. Gnumeric opened it no problem, edited the file, saved back as an Excell format and it opened in Excell. He was impressed.

Cheers
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#45 Post by clarf »

Hi technosaurus,

I checked http://puppylinux.asia/members/T/444/ and notice many office applications, but few connection tools or network applications.

I would like to request the inclusion of tightVNC 1.3.10 to the pet list please.

Also need a FTP program, but don´t know if Filezilla is too big to be included then I won´t request its inclusion. You should consider a valid option for FTP.

Thank you.

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#46 Post by technosaurus »

filezilla itself isn't too big but its dependency - gnutls and its dependencies are - still planned to use gftp or fireftp plugin for firefox or something similar for opera

I can try and compile tightvnc, but I haven't tried using it since last summer so I'll have to upload it blindly.

I was thinking about using zoho sheets or google apps because OOo and koffice are even bigger and siag hasn't seen development in quite a while and it shows. EDIT Simple spreadsheet is an open source php app so that it can be used in a browser - just needs php (add hiawatha a you have access anywhere)

wjaguar has done some great work on mtpaint so that it is now themeable (and many other improvements) - I haven't been able to set up the theme yet - vovchik & ttuuxxx put one together here though:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=46632
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#47 Post by technosaurus »

I have patched petget to use xz compressed packages - it requires tar 1.22 or later compiled with support for xz as well as xz - all are attached.

If you downloaded the tar pet this one puts tar in /bin vs. /usr/bin so that it actually gets used ....I'll replace that one in the .../T/444 as well

This will free up server space, reduce bandwidth usage, decrease download times for our dialup users and install roughly just as fast as gzipped pets.

Please test - I would like to set .pxt as the default package type.
I will be uploading pxt packages as well to test.
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#48 Post by James C »

While testing an apparent bug in the 4.30 remaster script I ended up with an "extra" 430 install to test with.

Just installed the QT webkit browser and dependencies, with no problem.Seems pretty quick.

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#49 Post by James C »

QT browser in action in Puppy 430.

Quick but crashes.
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#50 Post by technosaurus »

Wierd I haven't had it crash. I was really amazed that it played flash without having to do anything.

2 questions:
What were you doing it crashed?
What does this output - any "not found"?
ldd /usr/bin/browser
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